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Coming Out of the Closet -- These guys won't be victims
National Review Online ^ | July 1, 2002 | DeRoy Murdock

Posted on 07/01/2002 11:35:11 AM PDT by mondonico

Coming Out of the Closet

These guys won't be victims.

EDITOR'S NOTE: A version of this article first appeared in the June 30 New York Post.

With a colorful parade down Fifth Avenue, June's Gay Pride celebrations were in full gear Sunday afternoon. A two-year-old group called Pink Pistols is among the worthiest organizations that marked last month's nationwide festivities. Boasting 2,350 members and 30 chapters in 22 states, Pink Pistols encourages gay people to use firearms for recreation and self-preservation.

"Pick on someone your own caliber," declares the group's website. "We are dedicated to the legal, safe and responsible use of firearms for self-defense of the sexual-minority community," it continues. The group's logic is unassailable: "The more people know that members of our community may be armed, the less likely they will be able to single us out for attack."

This deterrence policy already may have curbed anti-gay violence. According to Doug Krick, 31, the Boston-based dot.com engineer who founded Pink Pistols in July 2000: "While I can't say that we are completely responsible for it, I can say that there has not been a 'fag bashing' in any of the towns where we have chapters after our chapters were founded."

Pink Pistols borrowed its name from the headline of a March 13, 2000 Salon magazine article by Jonathan Rauch, an openly libertarian columnist for the National Journal who happens to be gay. He urged armed self-defense as an antidote to anti-gay violence. He dramatically illustrated this matter with the case of Tom Palmer, a Washington-based think-tank scholar. Palmer and a male friend were in a rough section of San Jose, California when a gang of 20 hoodlums started taunting them.

"Hey, you f***ing faggots!" one yelled. "When we're done with you, they'll never find your bodies." Palmer and his pal ran for their lives, with the thugs in hot pursuit. Palmer pulled a semi-automatic handgun from his backpack. He stood and waved it beneath a street light. His tormentors swiftly retreated.

"There's no question in my mind," Palmer said, "that my friend and I would have been at least very seriously beaten, and maybe killed."

Washington lobbyist Austin Fulk, 31, recalls a close brush with a hate-filled mob back in 1987. "I was 17 years old and living in Little Rock," he says by phone. "I was in a park where gay people too young to get into the bars would hang out and talk. Some people came by in a car and yelled at us, 'F**king faggots. Get AIDS and die.' I was standing beside the pick-up truck of a guy who had driven in from a rural part of Arkansas. He verbally responded to the people in the car. Four of them came piling out of their vehicle with baseball bats and tire irons. My friend reached under the seat of his truck, removed his pistol, aimed it at them and fired a warning shot over their heads. They basically decided that they would rather not attack people who would fight back. They jumped back into their car and fled."

Jeton Ademaj, 30, is organizing a Pink Pistols club in New York City "so people can socialize and network and support each other's right to self-defense." Ademaj, a porter in a Fifth Avenue apartment building, also tells me that Gotham's costly, Byzantine gun controls frustrate law-abiding citizens who seek firearms for their own protection. Still, he says, "It's an option that we need to have."

Pink Pistols chapters hold monthly meetings and frequent competitions at shooting ranges, to promote marksmanship and camaraderie. It also endorses political candidates who "support the Second Amendment as well as the rights of consenting adults to love each other however they wish." Based on responses to a detailed questionnaire, its website evaluates contenders in local, state, and federal races in 14 states for 2001-2002. Most tend to be Libertarians, although Republicans and Democrats are rated, too.

Most intriguing is how straight conservatives respond to the Pink and gay liberals react to the Pistols.

"I suspect there is as much misinformation about gays circulating in the gun culture as there is misinformation about guns circulating in the media!" says Michael Bane, a straight consultant to the National Shooting Sports Foundation who collaborates with Pink Pistols. Still, he believes "the concept of 'out of the closet' is brilliant. Since we represent about 50 percent of the households in America, if gun owners would 'come out of the closet,' we would be unbeatable."

"I know of absolutely no conservatives who have attacked us," says Fulk. "I've gotten a lot more grief from gay people for owning guns and supporting the Second Amendment than I ever have from gun owners for being gay." He often joins the group's Northern Virginia chapter for target practice at the headquarters of the National Rifle Association, with which Pink Pistols has testified on gun issues before California's state legislature.

All of this makes gay liberals very nervous.

"I am, and we are, very anti-gun; we don't think guns solve any problems, and may create more problems," Clarence Patton of New York's Gay and Lesbian Anti-Violence Project told Philadelphia Gay News last July.

"I don't believe arming ourselves is a sustainable response to a subculture of hate towards homosexuality," Sue Hyde of the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force told Southern Voice last month. "We are not going to settle our scores as a community by having a shoot-out at the OK Corral."

Doug Krick shrugs at these arguments. "There is a certain segment that believes that the world would be better without guns, therefore the message is to ban guns. But the genie cannot be put back in the bottle, and that would not be desirable, even if you could. As the saying goes, 'God made all men, but Colt made all men equal.'"

- Mr. Murdock is a columnist with the Scripps Howard News Service.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News
KEYWORDS: banglist; gays; guns; secondamendment; selfdefense
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1 posted on 07/01/2002 11:35:11 AM PDT by mondonico
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To: mondonico; *bang_list
"I know of absolutely no conservatives who have attacked us," says Fulk. "I've gotten a lot more grief from gay people for owning guns and supporting the Second Amendment than I ever have from gun owners for being gay." Absolutely everey human being has a right to self-defense. A homosexual does not automatially forfiet that right even by engaging in homosexual behavior. I strongly disagree with the homosexual agenda but I see no reason to attack this group based on its stands.

Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown

2 posted on 07/01/2002 11:48:29 AM PDT by harpseal
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To: mondonico
Bump for the Pink Pistols! Its good to see Gay activists who finally act like men instead of whining victims.
3 posted on 07/01/2002 11:58:18 AM PDT by Clemenza
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To: mondonico
I'd rather have a .45 than a special law to protect me, any day. Fag bashers exist because they want a weak victim, and gay liberals are certainly that.
4 posted on 07/01/2002 12:28:41 PM PDT by Britton J Wingfield
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To: harpseal
They definitely have the right to self defense. But the biggest gun in the world won't defend them on Judgement Day.
5 posted on 07/01/2002 12:32:19 PM PDT by goodieD
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To: mondonico
Here in south Florida, there are quite a few 2nd Amendment activists courting the gay pro-gunners and there are quite a few of them! I have nothing against the idea, as I do believe that our freedoms apply to all segments of society.

I teach high school in the inner city and that attitude, along with a demand that all class discussions cover all sides of all issues rather than just the school board side (the AGENDA) or the liberal democrat side, is what is winning the war of ideas and truth for me.

6 posted on 07/01/2002 4:52:00 PM PDT by ExSoldier
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To: EricOKC
Ok, first of all, homosexuality is directly AGAINST most religions (and nature) so religion WILL be brought into it.
Secondly. You MUST be a liberal, because that out of context "judge not" line is all they spew when they don't want any retribution for sin or evil. That particular line you were trying to quote has to do with hypocrisy, as in do not judge others for what you have done yourself. Since I'm not a homo, I can judge. Thirdly, the Bible does state in other places that we ARE to judge the BEHAVIOUR of our brothers and sisters, and set them straight. That we are NOT to turn a blind eye to sin. Lastly the only thing we cannot judge is their souls, since only God can do that. I don't judge souls, I can't send someone to heaven or hell. But I can point out sin. And homosexuality is a sin, whether you like it or not.
8 posted on 07/02/2002 9:05:16 PM PDT by goodieD
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To: EricOKC
While many of us wish they would keep their sex lives in the closet, many of us ALSO wish people would keep their religion to themselves.

As long as you have help with your gun anything goes huh eric...you would form an allience with Hitler if he let you have your toys..It is all about you..it is always all about you..To He** with the kids that have to see this stuff ...as long as you can have your pleasure

Eric you are NO conservative..libertarian maybe..

10 posted on 07/02/2002 10:10:26 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: EricOKC
Cant we have ONE thread involving homosexuals without SOMEBODY bringing religion into it?

Can't we have one thread where somebody brings religion into it without someone else complaining about it?

11 posted on 07/02/2002 10:17:37 PM PDT by Prince Caspian
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To: EricOKC
Oh, go ahead. That's half the fun.
14 posted on 07/02/2002 10:29:24 PM PDT by Prince Caspian
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To: EricOKC
I also wish people would keep their religion to themselves.

naw you do not..what would you have to complain about?

it's all about you eric...when you finally out grow that you will be a man

15 posted on 07/02/2002 10:36:16 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: EricOKC
Cant we have ONE thread involving homosexuals without SOMEBODY bringing religion into it?

Homosexuality is a sin and a crime against nature. It's always appropriate to remind others of that - particularly those that ignore God's laws and the laws of nature.

16 posted on 07/03/2002 4:46:40 AM PDT by VA Advogado
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To: mondonico
Perhaps they'll shove their "pink pistol" far up their favorite spot....where the sun doesn't shine!
17 posted on 07/03/2002 4:50:56 AM PDT by elcaudillo
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To: ExSoldier
... is what is winning the war of ideas and truth for me.

Since h*mos are the victim of the month -every month- the Left cannot just blow off their 2nd Rights like it is normally done.

We all know that a NYC h*mo is a wise and noble being next to a Straight, Christian, Male in say rural PA.

18 posted on 07/03/2002 5:05:34 AM PDT by NativeSon
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To: EricOKC
I dont see why the Fundies

Please do not use religious slurs.

19 posted on 07/03/2002 5:09:20 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: EricOKC
Cant we have ONE thread involving homosexuals without SOMEBODY bringing religion into it?

Cant we have ONE thread involving homosexuals without SOMEBODY whining about bringing religion into it?

20 posted on 07/03/2002 5:10:01 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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