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Bush plan - a square peg in a round hole ( Zogby
GulfNews ^ | 01-07-2002 | Dr. James J. Zogby

Posted on 07/01/2002 10:41:42 AM PDT by swarthyguy

It has been one week now since President George W. Bush delivered the long awaited speech outlining his vision of a future Middle East peace. The speech was troublesome and the world's reaction to it has been troubled.

It was a strange speech. One we have been told went through 28 revisions. The final product appeared to reflect two distinct and contradictory approaches. It was, one might say, a "compassionate [neo-]conservative" speech.

There were, for example, parts of the speech that spoke passionately about Palestinian suffering and Palestinian needs to be free of occupation and to have a state of their own. There was, however, also a neo-conservative ideological overlap on the speech that ignored Palestinian realities and made realization of their dreams nearly impossible to achieve.

At times listening to the speech and, then later reading it, it appeared to be two different speeches. For example, the first three paragraphs were balanced and straightforward. And then, out of nowhere, it seemed the ideologues added two paragraphs of their own. This shuffling of divergent themes and visions continued throughout.

There were other strange aspects to the speech. Most obvious was the stark absence of any criticism of Israel or Israeli practices. In this regard even the President's April 4 speech was better, since it included at least a mild rebuke of Israel.

In last week's speech, all the blame for the absence of peace is placed on the Palestinians, their leadership, their violence, their lack of democracy and their "being held hostage to a comprehensive peace."

And while others have noted that the speech presents no plan or roadmaps for implementation, it did include some perfectly strange hints of what at least some of the President's speechwriters may have had in mind.

These passages are especially important to consider: "If the Palestinian people meet these goals [i.e. building a "practicing democracy based on tolerance and liberty"], they will be able to reach agreement with Israel and Egypt [?] and Jordan [?] on security and other arrangements for independence..."; "The United States will not support the establishment of a Palestinian state until its leaders engage in a sustained fight against the terrorists and dismantle their infrastructure.

This will require an externally supervised effort to rebuild and reform…" and "With a dedicated effort, this state could rise rapidly, as it comes to terms with Israel, Egypt [?] and Jordan [?] on practical issues such as security."

While all of these strange hints need to be examined for their intent, some immediate questions do need to be asked.

For example, since any forward movement (i.e. an end to the occupation and support for an improved economy) for the Palestinians is conditioned on their becoming a "practicing democracy based on tolerance and liberty" (a noble, desired and deserved ambition of most Palestinians) how, one might reasonably ask, do the Palestinians form this democracy under military occupation, without any functioning economy and with their people seething in anger at the devastation of their lives, property and hopes brought to them by their "democratic" neighbour?

And in the absence of any immediate improvement in the daily life of Palestinians, how will it be possible to stop violence? With most Palestinian institutions having been destroyed or dismantled, how will it be possible to proceed?

Finally, is the speech writer suggesting an Egyptian and Jordanian "trusteeship" in the Palestinian lands? Is this the precondition to peace? So many more questions can be asked, but, in fact, none of them can be answered.

Alas the speech was not a roadmap. It was, in fact, an awkwardly made stew, that was the product of too many chefs. It probably needed a 29th or 30th revision to make sense.

The chefs chose from two schools. There were diplomats who wanted to build on the vision of Secretary Powell's speech and the President's April 4 effort, and there were also neo-conservative ideologues who have long sought to impose their vision on the US's Middle East peace making efforts. It appears that diplomats wrote the first draft.

The ideologues then fought to insert their own parts. Little effort was made to reconcile their irreconcilable visions. They simply rushed to get it out, after days of internal bickering over timing and content.

As a result of the strangeness of this final product, the State Department is making a noble effort to explain away and make sense out of the pieces that don't fit.

European leaders are confused (probably a healthy sign). Israeli doves are depressed (a responsible sign). Arab public opinion is furious (a logical response) and Arab leaders who hoped against hope that the President would deliver, are now desperately trying to sort out the parts of the speech that are workable and acceptable (an understandable response).

If you too are confused, that's a perfectly normal reaction. The contradictory parts of the speech didn't fit into a clear picture, because they are irreconcilable and just don't fit. And so, we are left to wait for the competing currents within the Administration to sort out their differences and write yet another speech.

The tragedy in all of this, of course, is while the world tries to make sense out of what just doesn't make sense, more will die, more will suffer and hope will continue to become an increasingly rare commodity.

Dr. James J. Zogby, president of the Arab American Institute and a Democratic political lobbyist, hosts the weekly radio and television programme 'A Capital View' on the Arab Network of America which is also aired live in the Middle East on MBC. He also writes a weekly column that appears regularly in 'Gulf News'.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: arab; arabia; arabs; araby; bush; gulf; islam; usa
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1 posted on 07/01/2002 10:41:43 AM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: swarthyguy
this maggot is one shifty eyed smiler
and as liberal and anti Israel as one gets

2 posted on 07/01/2002 10:43:42 AM PDT by cactusSharp
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To: swarthyguy
Zogby can go pound a square peg into his round hole.
3 posted on 07/01/2002 10:46:23 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: swarthyguy
Never trust an arab, especially one who makes his living as a pollster.
4 posted on 07/01/2002 10:46:59 AM PDT by TADSLOS
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To: swarthyguy
How dare Zogby write something critical about that speech. It was a great speech for anyone who supports Israel, and it should come as no shock that Zogby is painting a negative brush here. Should the world's opinion even matter re this speech? What difference does it make if only America and Israel view things in the same light, compared with the rest of the world? Bush has sided with Israel... and in this speech he damands that Arafat step down. Period.
5 posted on 07/01/2002 10:49:40 AM PDT by CecilRhodesGhost
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To: swarthyguy
I guess the concept of free people and free markets is just too confusing for Zoggy to get. He shouldn't fee too bad, though, lots of Arabs have the same problem.
6 posted on 07/01/2002 10:50:27 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: TADSLOS
especially one who makes his living as a pollsterJim Zogby's brother is the pollster. Jim is a full time Arab shill. Your point is nonetheless valid.
7 posted on 07/01/2002 10:56:42 AM PDT by white trash redneck
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To: swarthyguy
There was, however, also a neo-conservative ideological overlap on the speech that ignored Palestinian realities and made realization of their dreams nearly impossible to achieve.

What? Is it so hard to stop bombing innocent Israeli civilians?

Zobgy is such a shill for Muslim terrorists. He KNOWS that their end goal is NO ISRAEL, which is UNACCEPTABLE!

8 posted on 07/01/2002 11:20:32 AM PDT by SunStar
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To: swarthyguy
After I read this, I find myself in an odd position for who I am. I used to be pretty much open minded, tolerent and free thinking. Now, I am REALLY getting a bad attitude about Arabic people. I read garbage like this and find myself thinking "consider the source" There must be some decent, clear-thinking Arabs somewhere - where are they? Bush is on the money and they need to figure it out.
9 posted on 07/01/2002 11:43:02 AM PDT by The Californian
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To: swarthyguy
With most Palestinian institutions having been destroyed or dismantled, how will it be possible to proceed?

Zogby needs to improve his listening skills. Bush said he would see to it that the Palestinians are assisted in bringing in new leadership, and building new security institutions to stop the terror. All the Palestinians need to have is the will to become a civilized society, and they will end up with a state. Bush offered a clear road map to peace. The fact that the Palestinians may be too sociopathic to follow it may be unfortunate, but that is their problem, and theirs alone. Of course, Zogby doesn't like facing up to that hard truth, just as he doesn't like facing up to the fact that Arafat blew his main chance, and blew it bigtime, when he didn't cut a deal with Barak, suggesting on his part not only sociopathy, but insanity.

10 posted on 07/01/2002 12:19:52 PM PDT by Torie
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To: The Californian
Zogby is a hired gun by the Arab American. He gets most of his funding, however, from the Saudis. Hence his worped anti Israel/anti US openion. From my experience, 99.9% of the Christian Arab Americans are very pro-Israel, and anti Arafat. Zogby is not by himself, there are a whole mess of Washington lobbyists (Jews and Anglos), who don't care about anything except pleasing their master, the Saudis who pay them millions to keep their image clean!

Lawyers are typically a worthless group. Look at the defence they put for O.J. Simpson!

11 posted on 07/01/2002 1:22:24 PM PDT by philosofy123
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I know that decent Arab/Americans must be out there - I guess I just wish that they wrote more stuff or had it published more. Guess I'll just keep on hoping that most normal people really don't want to live in fear, terror, oppression and hate. Please, if you are an Arab/American and feel this way, write some articles showing your view!
12 posted on 07/01/2002 1:39:36 PM PDT by The Californian
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To: swarthyguy
"And so, we are left to wait for the competing currents within the Administration to sort out their differences and write yet another speech."

Bush shouldn't have even written the first speech. Whether or not Palestinians and Israelis blow each other up is no business of the President of the United States. He has his own country to run, and should focus on that. That's what we (U.S. taxpayers) pay him for.



13 posted on 07/01/2002 2:59:37 PM PDT by Mark Bahner
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To: swarthyguy
Finally, is the speech writer suggesting an Egyptian and Jordanian "trusteeship" in the Palestinian lands? Is this the precondition to peace?

Listen Zog, the speech writer is President Bush. Oh sure, someone else may have put the words on paper, but it's his ideas. Quit trying to act like Dubya's some dummy who just reads what people put in front of him, just because you're to stupid to get it, or too dishonest to let on that you do.

14 posted on 07/01/2002 3:00:13 PM PDT by Hugin
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To: Hugin
Listen Zog Nice name.
15 posted on 07/01/2002 3:01:45 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: Torie
1948, August 2000, December 2000.

What part of YES do the Palestinians not understand. FOOLS!
16 posted on 07/01/2002 3:02:49 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: Mark Bahner
Whether or not Palestinians and Israelis blow each other up is no business of the President of the United States. He has his own country to run, and should focus on that. That's what we (U.S. taxpayers) pay him for.

Israel's enemies are our enemies. They hate Israel because it's an outpost of western civilization, which they also hate. We are the primary defender of western civilization, and we have both moral and practical reasons to help Israel defend herself. This taxpayer thinks the speech was brilliant.

17 posted on 07/01/2002 3:06:24 PM PDT by Hugin
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To: Hugin
"Israel's enemies are our enemies."

Speak for yourself.

"We are the primary defender of western civilization, and we have both moral and practical reasons to help Israel defend herself."

There is absolutely NOTHING in the Constitution that authorizes Congress to collect tax money to "defend western civilization." Defense of the United States is the limit of their authorization.

"This taxpayer thinks the speech was brilliant."

Fine. It's a semi-free country. (Just don't express your views 30 days before a primary, or 60 days before an election. :-/ )
18 posted on 07/01/2002 3:40:03 PM PDT by Mark Bahner
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To: Mark Bahner
"Israel's enemies are our enemies." Speak for yourself.

I don't have to, the Presidend and Congress already have. Moreover the terrorists have made themselves our enemies by their actions. Isreal's enemies have killed many, many. American citizens long before 9/11. Leon Klingohoffer, and our Ambassador to Sudan by Arafat's crew. 248 Marines and Beruit CIA station cheif William Buckly by Hezbollah. Numerous hijackings of American airplanes and other murders as well by various professed enemies of Israel and the USA. Not to metion Al Queda's jihad against "Jews and Crusaders."

There is absolutely NOTHING in the Constitution that authorizes Congress to collect tax money to "defend western civilization." Defense of the United States is the limit of their authorization.

That's an asinine assertion. Congress has the power to sign treaties, and declare war, and the President has the power to conduct foriegn policy and as CIC he has the power to protect American citizens and interests. We have been going after pirates and terrorists ever since Jefferson sent our navy to clean up the Barbary Pirates in 1803.

The bottom line is Al Qaeda, Fatah, Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Hezbollah are all heads of the same hydra and we are at war with it. Your either with us, or with the terrorists.

19 posted on 07/01/2002 4:25:14 PM PDT by Hugin
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To: Mark Bahner
What is it that makes you think that the jihaadis who hate ALL nonmuslims would spare you?

Do you really buy their propaganda?
20 posted on 07/01/2002 4:31:15 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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