** Is this IDIOT for real ** Agrees with 9th Circuit !!

Lew Rockwell and Brad Edmonds ^ | 28 June 2002 | David C. Osborne

[davidosborne]

Mr. Brad Edmonds states: Let me be among those who say that the court got this one right,...........

Lew Rockwell/Brad Edmonds Comments on the 9th Circuit Decision....

If you DISAGREE with this gentleman as I do, I suggest following the link and letting him know...

FReegards,

David C. Osborne

[r9etb]

Well, seeing as how he's writing for LewRockwell.com, he's serious. Not to be taken seriously, of course ... but he is serious.

[davidosborne]

Passing it on.. while your at it be sure to....

SIGN PETITION HERE....

[rmlew]

There is a hate America right. See LewRockwell.com and Anti-war.com

[davidosborne]

I thought the "stupid judge" (To quote Senator Byrd) was the only one in this country that actually believed that garbage.. you mean there are TWO of them.... God Help America !!

[Texaggie79]

[OldFriend]

Why take these dolts seriously.

[retrokitten]

LMAO!!!

[Poohbah]

I sometimes think that if Libertarians were ever elected to office and began to do the things he's been advocating all these years, Lew Rockwell would become a neo-Stalinist just to be contrary...

[davidosborne]

I took a stroll over to DU and noticed that they are on the verge of civil war over this issue.. maybe all this nonsense will guarantee victory for ALL Republican candidates this year...

[TomB]

I refuse to give DU the hits, although my intense need for schadenfreude is making me waver. Can you tell us what the discussions are like over there?

I can just see them tearing each other apart over this.

[TomB]

Lew Rockwell would become a neo-Stalinist just to be contrary...

You mean he isn't already????

Give him time.

[livius]

Yawn. Neal Boortz (and other libertarians) also agree. Who cares? As the dissenting judge said, it may be technically unconstitutional, but it's "de minimus," which means insignificant, doesn't matter, not worth bothering with, etc.

That is, this was an accepted phrase, used with no coercion (since people cannot be forced to say any or all of the Pledge), and not establishing any particular religion.

I'm waiting to see Neal and the others out trying to scrub the offending WORD off of their currency....

[Criminal Number 18F]

David --

chill out, young sergeant. There are a handful of whackos... read the stuff on Lew Rockwell's site and tell me if you think he's going to get any traction. This guy is off the edge of his flat earth.

Someone also mention Anti-War.com which is a clown named Justin Raimondo. No one in the real physical world ever heard of these fringe loons. Look at the sites and you'll see what I mean. These guys are entitled to their opinions but they are destined to be lonely in them.

As far as emailing one of these guys, it's like trying to FReep DU, or convert a Scientologist, or talk a bum out of drinking: a good task for someone bucking for sainthood, inured to disappointment, and with no other worthwhile objectives. This doesn't describe you does it? To put in another way, if you wrestle with a pig you both wind up dirty but the pig loves it.

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F

[borntodiefree]

To initiate an intelligent debate, forgetting about the court. What is correct or incorrect about his statements. I'd like to get past the emotion, and have an intelligent discussion before I come to a conclusion.

[Ole Okie]

Yawn. Neal Boortz (and other libertarians) also agree. Who cares?

Neal has been on his high horse on this one. You'd have thought that the fate of the country turned on getting those offending words "under God" out of the Pledge.

I listen to Neal for maybe an hour most days, and agree with him less than half the time. But he's entertaining.

In a minimal sort of way.

[Texasforever]

Well, in the first place Lew is not worried about the words "under GOD'. He like all in the neo-confederate movement hate the word "indivisible". The new secessionist movement is itching for the pre civil war confederation. He is just using this decision as a convenient event to advance his "dream".

[borntodiefree]

Well, on that point, I can't disagree with him. The federal takeover of the states and ruling from afar, has turned this country upside down. Pre or Post civil war, this Union is still made up of sovereign states. It always has been, the force, coercion, and fraud of the non-secesionists doesn't change the fact. This wasn't even a new idea from the founding fathers on. Even during the war of 1812, the New England states were just on the verge of seccession, if it wasn't for the end of the war and the federal government withdrawing its demands...like the federalizing of the militia, and such, the New England states would have seceded.

Otherwise, we don't even have a need for a federal or state constitutions, but that is not the case. The people joined together to create counties/cities and delegated certain authorities, the counties joined together and created the states (while leaving the People the masters), the states through the approval of the People in the Counties created the Articles of Confederation and then the Constitution of the United States.

To this day, the states can secede from the Union just as they were free to ascede. Counties can secede from the state (just like what is going on in New Jersey), and people have the right to secede from the county.

Now at this point, we are all held at gunpoint from all levels, but that does not mean we do not have the right to secede, just that bloodshed is (currently) not the answer to exercise those rights. What that does mean is we are either free or slaves to the Federal government, it doesn't work both ways, and you can't be kinda free anymore than you can be kinda pregnant, you either are or you aren't.

Clearly I am a Libertarian and I am also a very strong personal conservative, but I am only vaguely familiar with this guy and he seems to lean to more liberal than libertarian view points.

[davidosborne]

I understand.. I was just having a little fun, I know these people must be lonely ... I'll pray for them..

David

[davidosborne]

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