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Pyramid and multlevel marketing schemes, and the friendly stranger who seems sooo interested in you
The Lectric Law Library (condensed version of Better Business Bureau report ^ | 1993-1994 | Better Business Bureau

Posted on 06/28/2002 4:37:16 PM PDT by StarfireIV

Have you ever thought about becoming a distributor for a multi-level marketing company in order to make a little extra money or build a business working on your own?
Multi-level marketing is a system of retailing in which consumer products are sold by independent businessmen and women (distributors) usually in customers' homes. You can set your own hours and earn money based on your efforts and ability to sell consumer products or services supplied to you, the distributor, by an established multi-level marketing company.

The multi-level company also will encourage you to build and manage your own sales force by recruiting, motivating, supplying and training others to sell the products or services. A percentage based on the sales of your sales force would be your compensation, in addition to personal sales.

Although it is possible to build a successful multilevel business with comparatively little start-up money, keep in mind that it is not a means of getting rich quickly or easily. Successful distributors who have recruited and trained a large number of sellers, also have to assume ongoing wholesaling and managing responsibilities as well as making sales to their own retail customers. Managing such a large network can be lucrative, but it is hard work and can become a full-time job.

WATCH OUT FOR "PYRAMID" SCHEMES

"Pyramid" schemes, on the other hand, concentrate mainly on the quick profits to be earned by selling the right to recruit others. The merchandise or service to be sold is largely ignored, and little or no mention is made regarding a market for the products. Pyramid scheme participants attempt to recoup their investments in products by recruiting from the ever- decreasing number of potential investors in a given area.

Unless you recognize the tactics of a pyramid scheme, you may find yourself tempted to become involved. Here's a typical example:

You have just been invited by a friend, neighbor or colleague to attend an "opportunity meeting" to find out how you can earn lots of extra money. You go, thinking this may be a way to build a business on your own. In a frenzied, enthusiastic atmosphere you are told how easy it is to realize a fabulous return on your investment. A smooth-talking organizer may try to convince you that his plan is an exciting short cut to riches, easy living and early retirement. To invest you usually have to pay a large fee. The organizer may tell you that you don't have to invest (buy products, courses, etc.), but it is clear you are expected to, or would be a fool not to.

You are confused. You are not really sure what the product or service is, or how it's going to be sold. Instead, the emphasis of the meeting has been on the fact that all you have to do, aside from investing your money in the program, is to get others to invest. The plan focuses more on the recruiting of other participants than on selling the product or serivce.

Consider the results if one person recruited six distributors, each of whom, in turn, recruited six others, and carry the process through nine steps as follows:

1 6
2 36
3 216
4 1,296
5 7,776
6 46,656
7 279,936
8 1,679,616
9 10,077,696

At more than ten million people for every nine steps in the distribution program, the distributors soon would be recruiting one another. In order for everyone to profit in a pyramid scheme, there would have to be a never-ending supply of potential (and willing) participants. Obviously, there isn't. When the supply runs out the pyramid collapses and most participants lose their investment.

The tragic aspect of pyramid schemes is that they concentrate on and exploit people with limited means and limited knowledge of business- people who can ill afford to lose the investment they put into the program. Thousands of unsuspecting and trusting investors have lost millions of dollars by investing in pyramid schemes. Even worse, the schemes have robbed some retired persons of their life savings.

Pyramid schemes are illegal throughout the United States. Keep in mind, however, that it is difficult to prosecute these schemes; most often the money invested is lost.

It's always a good idea to check your Better Business Bureau for a reliability report on any company in which you are thinking about investing. Also, if you feel you have been defrauded, your state attorney general may be able to advise you of some possible recourse.

GUIDELINES FOR INVESTORS

* Be wary if the start-up cost for the investment is substantial. Legitimate multi-level marketing companies usually require a small start- up cost. Pyramid schemes, on the other hand, pressure you to pay a large amount to become a "distributor." The promoters behind the scheme make most of their profit on the signing up of new recruits.

* Find out if the company will buy back inventory. If not, watch out... you could be saddled with unsold inventory. Keep in mind that legitimate companies that require you to purchase an inventory should offer and stick to inventory buy- backs for at least 80 percent of what you paid. some state laws require 90 percent buy-backs.

* What is the consumer market for the products? If the company seems to be making money by recruiting alone, you will want to stay away! Remember, multi-level marketing depends on selling to consumers and establishing a market for quality products. Pyramid schemes, however, are not concerned with sales of the products. Rather, they focus on profits to be made on volume sales to new recruits who buy the products in order to participate in the scheme.

A CHECKLIST

* Before investing, get all the facts about the company, its officers, its products. Find out the start-up cost and the company's buy-back policy.

* Get written copies of the company's marketing plan, sales literature, etc.

* Check with others who have experience with the company and its products. Are the products actually being sold to consumers?

* To check on a company, contact your local Better Business Bureau, district attorney or state attorney general's office. Also, you may want to contact the Direct Selling Association (1776 K Street, N.W., Washington, D.C. 20006), a national trade association representing legitimate in-home sales companies, many of which engage in multi-level marketing.

----- modified from a BBB Consumer Information Publication Copyright 1983, 1994 Council of Better Business Bureaus, Inc. 4200 Wilson Blvd., Arlington, VA 22203


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: mutilevelmarketing; pyramidschemes
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With the current economic trend and the recent conversation with a friend who was "invited to attend" I thought it best to post this.
1 posted on 06/28/2002 4:37:16 PM PDT by StarfireIV
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To: StarfireIV
These scams are deadly for personal relationships. The recruiter looks at every friend, relative, and casual acquaintance as a dollar sign and everyone becomes a target.
2 posted on 06/28/2002 4:42:23 PM PDT by Lizavetta
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To: StarfireIV
I can think of one......."Primerica" These people leased a space next to me for a couple of months and bailed overnight.
3 posted on 06/28/2002 4:44:10 PM PDT by cmsgop
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To: Lizavetta
These scams are deadly for personal relationships. The recruiter looks at every friend, relative, and casual acquaintance as a dollar sign and everyone becomes a target.

And when they run out of friends and relatives, they end up looking for a real job, anyway, though sometimes after Chapter 13. One of the dealiest damages these things do is to convince the sucker they are "Building a business", as they slip into bankruptcy. Now, the sucker has no family, no friends, and no income.

Years ago, one enterprising scammer couple mailed their classmates, announcing a "Thirteenth Reunion".

People arrived to learn it was (Is someone going to FINALLY say the "A" Word"?).

The downside was a wasted evening, but the bright news was the house was trashed.

4 posted on 06/28/2002 4:52:52 PM PDT by Gorzaloon
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To: StarfireIV
Click on the link for lotsa dirt on Scamway:


http://www.rickross.com/groups /amway.html
5 posted on 06/28/2002 4:56:39 PM PDT by Lizavetta
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To: StarfireIV
You have just been invited by a friend, neighbor or colleague to attend an "opportunity meeting"

While in college, I was invited to one of these "great opportunities" by two of my cousins. Being broke at the time, I attended. I was suspicious from the start. First of all, everyone was overly friendly and enthusiastic towards me, telling me how this is such a great opportunity to make thousands of dollars while at the same time they were very evasive with what the process entailed.

I also noticed a bunch of "ringers" --young, very good-looking people dressed in expensive suits and jewelry, Rolex watches, etc. who would talk about how they went from flipping burgers (or some other low-paying undesirable job) to driving a Ferrari and owning a condo in Aspen.

Anyhow, one of the ringers started describing the company in very vague terms yet I was able to instantly recognize it as a pyramid scheme. I told my cousins that this was bogus and to back out as quickly as they could. They thought I was a fool.

The company was named "Equinox" and they took my two cousins to the cleaners for around $15,000 before they wised up.

6 posted on 06/28/2002 5:22:01 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: Lizavetta
Click on the link for lotsa dirt on Scamway:

www.rickross.com is a great site for lots of info not only on MLMs but on other schemes, religious cults and shady organizations as well.

7 posted on 06/28/2002 5:24:37 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: cmsgop
Primerica is the worst! Very corrupt company. Has any one else had experience with this one?
8 posted on 06/28/2002 5:34:44 PM PDT by Pru
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To: cmsgop
I can think of one......."Primerica" These people leased a space next to me for a couple of months and bailed overnight

Just to point out that Primerica is part of Citigroup, i.e. Travelers Insurance, Travelers Bank, Solomon Smith Barney, Citibank, etc. and has over $1 trillion dollars in assets. Not exactly a fly-by-night business.

9 posted on 06/28/2002 5:41:46 PM PDT by chaosagent
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To: Pru
Why do you say Primerica is corrupt?
10 posted on 06/28/2002 5:45:08 PM PDT by DugwayDuke
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To: chaosagent
Just to point out that Primerica is part of Citigroup, i.e. Travelers Insurance, Travelers Bank, Solomon Smith Barney, Citibank, etc. and has over $1 trillion dollars in assets. Not exactly a fly-by-night business.

Exactly. The Primerica I'm familiar with sells high risk insurance, such as cancer and alzheimer's insurance. In fact, I wasn't aware they had any connection to MLM.

11 posted on 06/28/2002 5:49:44 PM PDT by sinkspur
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To: chaosagent
Primerica is part of Citigroup,

Thats Right, I remember they said that same line to my employee Over and Over and Over again.
12 posted on 06/28/2002 5:50:47 PM PDT by cmsgop
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To: sinkspur
They skirt the line,.......Like Razor Thin, I did research them a bit last year.
13 posted on 06/28/2002 5:52:59 PM PDT by cmsgop
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To: Kalashnikov_68
The company was named "Equinox" and they took my two cousins to the cleaners for around $15,000 before they wised up.

Yeah, my cousin was taken in by this MLM scam, too. Lost a couple of grand on it.

Her experience was in Pittsburgh -- where was yours?

14 posted on 06/28/2002 6:09:06 PM PDT by martin_fierro
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To: chaosagent
Primerica may be a big outfit but it is also a very corrupt one. Witness Worldcomm, Encron, Tyco et al. Don't be fooled by size.
15 posted on 06/28/2002 6:10:07 PM PDT by Pru
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To: Pru
What's corrupt about them?
16 posted on 06/28/2002 6:24:05 PM PDT by chaosagent
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To: StarfireIV
Everyone should be a part of one of these scams. It's a great way to get rid of those pesky 'friends' who want to take up all your time with their whining. You just mention the name of the scam, tell them that you have been doing VERY well lately as a result of being involved, and invite tham to a meeting. Almost 100% guaranteed they will never speak to you again. But don't use it on people whose friendship you value.
17 posted on 06/28/2002 6:37:39 PM PDT by whipitgood
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To: chaosagent
Primerica used to be A. L. Williams, a replacement insurance agency run by Art Williams ex-football coach. When I say that Primerica is corrupt I don't mean that the agents are corrupt but the company itself. It steals from the agency that sells it's products. It really uses people horribly to the benefit of the corporation. The agents think of themselves as independent contrators but are treated as employees. That means that the people recruited assume all the risk for procurring the business (rents, leads etc.) and Primerica gains all the reward. It's also a nifty way for the corporation to remove tax liability for itself. The agents, especially at the bottom, are good people. They are just being hopelessly and unknowingly exploited.
18 posted on 06/28/2002 6:39:25 PM PDT by Pru
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To: martin_fierro
Her experience was in Pittsburgh -- where was yours?

Ft. Collins/Denver Colorado.

My first clue that something was fishy was the fact that the head of the company spelled his last name "Gouldd" and his brother (an Equinox executive) spelled his last name "Gould" with only one d. Why the spelling variations.

Interestingly enough, if you type up "Gouldd" in google, you'll find that this company has been busted over and over for fraud.

19 posted on 06/28/2002 6:39:40 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: Kalashnikov_68
I knew a guy who got caught up in one called "Quorum." They got around $5000 from him before he bailed out. He was only able to convince one person to join his "downline."

He went to a meeting in Arizona, and his brother-in-law invited two leeches to share their room. They started charging meals to the room, and had no intention of paying, trying to stick my acquaintance with the bill.

And when you would politely turn down their great offer to join, they would reassure themselves that the world is full of winners and losers, and anybody who didn't join was obviously a loser.

That's why I'm chuckling to myself right now.

20 posted on 06/28/2002 6:48:05 PM PDT by vikingchick
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