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Rethinking the pledge (PUKE)
Boston Globe ^ | June 28, 2002 | Derrick Z. Jackson

Posted on 06/28/2002 2:29:17 AM PDT by sarcasm

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:07:55 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

H, MY ... God! Since no politician can afford to be seen as godless, no matter how completely they lean on the everlasting arms of lobbyists, they rushed to fax machines to be the first to cast stones at the ruling Wednesday by the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals. A three-judge panel held that the phrase ''one nation under God'' makes the Pledge of Allegiance unconstitutional.


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1 posted on 06/28/2002 2:29:17 AM PDT by sarcasm
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To: sarcasm
LOL such garbage. So PC. I am an atheist but I do not see any ridiculous reason to censor the Pledge of Alleigience because it mentions God. What the hell is the big deal? This is simply more politically correct fascism.
2 posted on 06/28/2002 2:44:57 AM PDT by Pythagoras
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To: sarcasm
my god how sickening that was
3 posted on 06/28/2002 3:38:18 AM PDT by wafflehouse
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To: Pythagoras; cardinal4
When I lived in the People's Republic of Massachusetts, I had subscribed to the Boston Glob. Finally, I could take no more of any fishwrap that would hire the likes of Derrick Z. Jackson and I cancelled my subscription, telling the telephone operator that it was DZJ's Politically Coercive rantings that drove me away. Like the operator actually had a clue about whom I was speaking.
4 posted on 06/28/2002 3:59:25 AM PDT by Ax
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To: sarcasm
It's rare to find a complete & total idiot. Most just aspire.............this guy hits the mark.
5 posted on 06/28/2002 4:13:24 AM PDT by RightOnline
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To: sarcasm
Nearly five decades later, atheist Michael Newdow of Sacramento sued his school district and the federal government after his second-grade daughter was forced to say the pledge.

Now, I wasn't there, but ever other article on this states the child was offended because she had to listen to the pledge as she had the option to opt out of the pledge. It would seem this is supported by Newdow's appeal in which he said (quoting from this article) "nobody should be made to feel like an outsider."

Can anyone verify that the daughter was or wasn't "forced" to say the pledge?

6 posted on 06/28/2002 4:16:08 AM PDT by dpa5923
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To: dpa5923
The daughter chose gladly to say the pledge WITH "under God" in it!
7 posted on 06/28/2002 4:18:39 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: sarcasm
Ironically, as a Christian Fundamentalist, I find myself supporting the continuation of the phrase "under God" even though I know that most people say it in vain.

Weird.

8 posted on 06/28/2002 4:22:48 AM PDT by kinsman redeemer
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To: sarcasm
of·fend Pronunciation Key (-fnd)
v. of·fend·ed, of·fend·ing, of·fends
v. tr.

1. To cause displeasure, anger, resentment, or wounded feelings in.
2. To be displeasing or disagreeable to: Onions offend my sense of smell.
3.
a. To transgress; violate: offend all laws of humanity.
b. To cause to sin.

v. intr.

1. To result in displeasure: Bad manners may offend.
2.
a. To violate a moral or divine law; sin.
b. To violate a rule or law: offended against the curfew.

God does not offend.
9 posted on 06/28/2002 4:38:20 AM PDT by Gaston
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To: sarcasm
My wife came up with, ''one nation, from many.'' I offer, ''one nation, of glorious diversity,'' ''one nation, born of inequality,'' and ''one nation, willing to struggle.'' Many of you surely have better ones.

"One nation, sick of this kinda crap".

(You were right, Derrick, I DO have better ones than you!)

10 posted on 06/28/2002 5:01:31 AM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: Ax
I cancelled my subscription, telling the telephone operator that it was DZJ's Politically Coercive rantings that drove me away. Like the operator actually had a clue about whom I was speaking.

From time to time I get telemarketing calls for the Boston Globe. I always politely explain to the callers that I am not interested in the Globe because it is far too left wing for my tastes. They always reply: "We hear that a lot."

11 posted on 06/28/2002 5:25:55 AM PDT by Maceman
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To: kinsman redeemer
Ironically, as a Christian Fundamentalist, I find myself supporting the continuation of the phrase "under God" even though I know that most people say it in vain.

My sentiments also!

12 posted on 06/28/2002 5:55:40 AM PDT by yendu bwam
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To: RightOnline
It's rare to find a complete & total idiot.

Just pick up tomorrow's edition of the Boston Globe...

13 posted on 06/28/2002 5:56:20 AM PDT by yendu bwam
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To: sarcasm
I offer, ''one nation, of glorious diversity,'' ''one nation, born of inequality,'' and ''one nation, willing to struggle.''

Why didn't he give us his actual top choice: "one nation that really really sucks"?

14 posted on 06/28/2002 5:56:53 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: sarcasm
Underneath all the PC crap, there is one nugget of truth in this article.

When the US Senate votes 99-0 on anything you know that's the sign of a non-issue, with no real significance for the future of our country. Had the vote been 73-26 or even 89-10, it would have told you that keeping "Under God" in the pledge would change anything.

15 posted on 06/28/2002 6:16:32 AM PDT by Charlotte Corday
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To: ClearCase_guy
I'd like to know if this idiot uses US cash to by a drink from a soda machine for his sensative daughter. How can he use coins that have "In God we trust" stamped on them. Does not the nation's coinage offend him as well.

He is offended by the plege, well I am offended by him, his legal advisors, and his Judges.

16 posted on 06/28/2002 6:30:27 AM PDT by Jack of Diamonds
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To: sarcasm
Derrick Z. Jackson is one with many liberals in hating religion. Its not separation of religion and state he and his ilk are worried about but the right of believers to assert God is part of the woof, warp, and fabric of our national character. What's amazing is the very people who decry intolerance and bigotry at one remove demonstrate it themselves. Liberals like Jackson are not just going crazy over the Pledge of Allegiance; they're going crazy over Ann Coulter's new book too. Jackson and his ilk slander America every opportunity they get. No wonder Jackson hails the 9th Circuit's ruling.
17 posted on 06/28/2002 6:36:57 AM PDT by goldstategop
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To: sarcasm
"his second-grade daughter was forced to say the pledge . . . nobody should be made to feel like an outsider

First of all this is a lie. His daughter was NOT FORCED to say the pledge. I saw him interviewed on FOX yesterday a.m. He said SHE WAS NOT FORCED.

Secondly, my daughter was FORCED TO FEEL LIKE AN OUTSIDER when I removed her from objectionable psychological manipulation in kindergarten and first grade in a California school. Where did she sit while the other children participate? OUTSIDE the classroom, on a chair, in the heat (in Palm Desert, California). (I didn't know they would do this to her.) I then had to make them place my daughter in another classroom or setting where she would not be sitting outside doing nothing in the heat.

18 posted on 06/28/2002 6:41:51 AM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo; goldstategop; ClearCase_guy; HASH(0x8c5cd64); yendu bwam; sarcasm; Maceman; ...
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19 posted on 06/28/2002 7:29:51 AM PDT by Joy Angela
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To: sarcasm
The following is the e-mail that I sent to the author at jackson@globe.com

You said, " It was the brainchild of the Knights of Columbus, which was doing its part to smoke out 'godless communists.'''

Hey, it's still working today! Good work, KC!

You said, "atheist Michael Newdow of Sacramento sued his school district and the federal government after his second-grade daughter was forced to say the pledge.''

Not true at all. His claim was that his daughter had to be in the same room while other children said the pledge.

So did you lie because the truth doesn't support your anti-American, Anti-God, Anti-pledge position, or were you just too lazy to do your homework?

20 posted on 06/28/2002 8:01:36 AM PDT by alnick
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