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Court Bars Religious Tiles From Columbine Memorial
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Posted on 06/27/2002 6:54:57 PM PDT by RCW2001

Court Bars Religious Tiles From Columbine Memorial

Reuters

June 27

— DENVER (Reuters) - School officials were within their rights to bar Christian messages that families of victims of the 1999 Columbine High School massacre had painted on tiles for an on-campus school memorial, a federal appeals court ruled on Thursday.

"By allowing a tile stating 'God is Love,' the (school) district would be obligated to post tiles stating 'God is Hate,"' the appellate judges wrote.

The decision came a day after another federal appeals court in San Francisco set off a national debate by ruling that the Pledge of Allegiance was unconstitutional because it contained the words "under God."

The California decision, which was criticized across the political spectrum, was put hold Thursday pending a review by a broader panel of appellate judges.

The Columbine tiles contained messages such as "God is Love" and "4/20/99 Jesus Wept" referring to the date that two students, Eric Harris, 18, and Dylan Klebold, 17, stormed the school and fatally wounded 12 fellow students and a teacher before killing themselves in the school library.

PREVENT RELIGIOUS DEBATE

"We believe that the (school) district's restriction on religious symbols was reasonably related to its legitimate goal of preventing disruptive religious debate on the school's walls," the 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals ruled 3-0.

The parents of Daniel Rohrbough and Kelly Fleming, two students who were shot to death, painted the messages in remembrance of their children.

The glazed tiles, created by Columbine families, rescue workers and others related to the massacre, were to assist in the school community's psychological healing from the shooting rampage and were to be put up in the school building.

The 37-page decision by the court in Colorado overturned a lower court order issued last year which concluded the school district's decision to bar the religious tiles violated the families' right to free speech.

The lower court's injunction required the district to post the Christian messages, and the Jefferson County school district appealed.

Several national conservative Christian groups, such as the National Association of Evangelicals and Focus on the Family, supported the two families in the appeal as friends of the court.



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1 posted on 06/27/2002 6:54:57 PM PDT by RCW2001
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To: RCW2001
See also another post on this, from a different source, posted a few minutes earlier Court Upholds Ban on Religious Tiles .

Another STUPID decision.

Another example of why we must get the Senate back, and get some decent judges in place.

2 posted on 06/27/2002 7:01:11 PM PDT by ThePythonicCow
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To: RCW2001
"By allowing a tile stating 'God is Love,' the (school) district would be obligated to post tiles stating 'God is Hate,"' the appellate judges wrote.

Whatever judges wrote this illogical idiocy should be removed from the bench.

3 posted on 06/27/2002 7:49:44 PM PDT by yooper
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To: RCW2001
Bad as the "pledge" decision was, this is positively obscene.
4 posted on 06/27/2002 8:30:56 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: RCW2001
Everybody....call or write your congressperson to co-sponsor Rep. Ron Paul's HR 4922 the "First Amendment Restoration Act of 2002", which should put a stop to all this crazyness. He submitted it June 14th. Read it on "The Liberty Committee" website.

Eagles UP....Jim

5 posted on 06/27/2002 8:42:20 PM PDT by TailspinJim
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To: TailspinJim
Could you tell me the url for the Liberty Committee website? Thanks!
6 posted on 06/27/2002 8:49:09 PM PDT by Mrs.Liberty
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To: RCW2001
If memory serves, one of the victims at Columbine was asked "do you believe in God?" before she was shot for answering in the affirmative.

This ruling is an insult.

7 posted on 06/27/2002 8:52:25 PM PDT by Tourist Guy
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To: TailspinJim
Never mind..I found it.
8 posted on 06/27/2002 8:57:33 PM PDT by Mrs.Liberty
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To: RCW2001
bump
9 posted on 06/27/2002 9:06:49 PM PDT by LiteKeeper
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To: RCW2001
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof."

The First Amendment gurantees Freedon of Religion, not Freedom from Religion. I hope this one goes all the way to the Supreme Court.

10 posted on 06/27/2002 9:19:57 PM PDT by Polybius
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To: RCW2001
"By allowing a tile stating 'God is Love,'"

Yes that horrible, horrible, close-minded idealology that God is love. We can't have the chilens hearing that.

"the (school) district would be obligated to post tiles stating 'God is Hate,"' the appellate judges wrote.

And where do they get that line of reasoning from? Did it take all 3 of them to come up with such a brilliant assesment? Great minds think alike eh?

11 posted on 06/27/2002 10:36:58 PM PDT by truth_session
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To: Tourist Guy
Whose side are they on, the terrorists or the victims?

These judges are in effect dancing on the graves of the Columbine victims here.

What a great idea; yes, let us all now honor the dead of Columbine High and their freedom by calling their faith in God and their freedom to express their faith on government property unconstitutional (their faith in government is of course constitutional however). And while we're at it, since the states are under federal jurisdiction, let us honor the dead by proclaiming any mention of God anywhere unconstitutional.

I'm so glad that after all these years the true reason behind the Bill of Rights is being advocated. God bless America!!..uh, I mean, uh....

12 posted on 06/27/2002 10:48:16 PM PDT by truth_session
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To: 2sheep
Palestinian state,oath of allegience,refusing Christian epitaphs to people whose final question before being slaughtered was 'do you believe in God'.3 strikes 2 days.
13 posted on 06/27/2002 11:02:40 PM PDT by Crazymonarch
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To: RCW2001
If a school was going to edit the free-speech of relatives of the victums, then why offer anyone the chance of writing a single word on the tiles to begin with?
14 posted on 06/27/2002 11:08:31 PM PDT by A CA Guy
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To: Crazymonarch; Prodigal Daughter; Thinkin' Gal; Jeremiah Jr; mancini; babylonian; Fred Mertz; ...
>Palestinian state,oath of allegience,refusing Christian epitaphs to people whose final question before being slaughtered was 'do you believe in God'.3 strikes 2 days.

Mile high city, prince of the power of the air, satanist judges, heathen nation, provokes the Ruler of the Universe, about to be spewed out.

15 posted on 06/28/2002 1:26:49 AM PDT by 2sheep
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To: truth_session
They have to work so damned hard trying to remove God, whom they argue wasn't supposed to be mentioned or honored from the beginning....
ah, the circular logic of the left...

In the book 1984 their already exsisted a society intolerant of thought crimes. It seems my friend that we are living through the transition period to that nightmare, and it isn't very easy is it?

Shall we go without a wimper?

16 posted on 06/28/2002 7:51:41 AM PDT by Tourist Guy
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To: A CA Guy
>>>If a school was going to edit the free-speech...<<<

Kinda defeats the purpose of free-speech in the first place.

17 posted on 06/28/2002 7:53:36 AM PDT by Tourist Guy
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To: truth_session
Of course. It makes perfect sense. Why didn't I think of that? Whenever a student says "Jesus is my Saviour." The state must pay an agent of the state to stand next to that student and proclaim "Jesus is not her Saviour."

Folks, the inmates are running the asylum. The Republic is dead.

18 posted on 06/28/2002 8:01:15 AM PDT by Wm Bach
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To: Wm Bach
That is of course after your child has sat through the Islamic wanna-be classes (social studies), sex-ed classes (ethics), evolution classes (science), and has been forced to pee in a cup, all at the expense of tax payers.

But thank God, uh I mean, humanity that our kids don't have to put up with dirty old religion.
19 posted on 06/28/2002 11:06:38 AM PDT by truth_session
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To: Tourist Guy
"They have to work so damned hard trying to remove God, whom they argue wasn't supposed to be mentioned or honored from the beginning.... ah, the circular logic of the left..."

I know the left likes to argue that God had nothing to do with the Constitution. I guess they believe that most of the framers were athiests and agnostics. The liberals also in the same breath claim that we need to tear down the status quo of Christian-like beliefs that propagate our youths' minds which is a result of years of historical Christian brainwashing.

To claim that historical America is not one nation under God is an absolute joke with no basis in fact or history.

20 posted on 06/28/2002 11:15:58 AM PDT by truth_session
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