Men taking photos at Navy base held by INS

Virginian-Pilot ^ | 27 June 2002 | Jack Dorsey

[csvset]

Holy frijoles Batman! That's right Robin, Illegal third worlders taking pics at the world's largest naval base.

Sorry security, poor documentation, lax policies and porous borders will be the death of us.

[csvset]

Race, one to add to your list of folks taking pictures of "stuff".

[rageaholic]

Hey, look on the bright side. The increased alertness and intolerance of visa violators is the silver lining inside the 11 Sept cloud. Before then, these guys would have been ignored or escorted off base. Now they are sitting in an INS lockdown.

[A CA Guy]

That is scary!

[mdittmar]

It has not been determined how the group got inside the base, McDonald said.

Frikin' heads better be a'rollin!

This is un-friken'-believable.

[Minutemen]

Relax folks...just some wayward tourists.
Pedro....Take my peetchure nex to dee beeeg boat!

[FR_addict]

Another article said the Al Qaeda had pictures of the terrorists being held in Cuba. So this is how they got the pics, probably paying locals to get pics for them.

[caisson71]

I'm glad they we stopped, questioned and held when documentation was not provided. But, how in HECK did they get on the base? Somebody had better be mowing lawns.

[Brownie74]

Poor security. When I was in SAC I had problems getting a visitors pass for my mom and dad when they came to visit me.

Times are changing. Unfortunately for the worse.

[nravoter]

"Hey, boss! Somebody just called from the White House and asked if we can have these guys registered in time to vote in the primaries."

[4America]

Times are changing. Unfortunately for the worse.

We do need a miracle.

[tall_tex]

They are being ignored now, unless I did not read this post propertly, I read, Detained, released. Why? Show me some Rage. MR Aholic.. Tom

[monday]

"They are being ignored now, unless I did not read this post propertly, I read, Detained, released. "

You did not read this post properly. From the article:

"They will be held in jail pending a hearing before an immigration judge within the next 30 days. "

[Reaganwuzthebest]

However, when they were questioned, some of them were concerned about their immigration status. That was the big thing on their mind.''

People from all over the world come here illegally, break our laws and what do they care about? Only if they're going to be deported. Well gee I hope so. It would be a lot better if they weren't allowed in to begin with.

[agrandis]

Thinking of the many Central Americans and Mexicans I have known, it seems odd to me that Salvadorans, Mexicans, and Colombians that are all illegals would be hanging out together, doing touristy things. Ordinarily, if they were all co-workers on some crew, they would be somehow related, or from the same state in Mexico, or at least from the same country. This seems odd.

[LasVegasMac]

``Some of our security guards asked what was going on and they really couldn't produce any explanation of why they were there. They didn't have a base sticker (on their vehicle), or authority to be on the base,'' he said.

The enlisted troops at the gate, charged with eye-balling each and every vechile that wants to enter the base, need to be fired. So does the Shift Supervisor, as well as the OIC of Security. Unforgivable, given the current situation. Accountability - accountability - accountability.

This from a retired USAF E-7. Once stopped two Asian looking gents (turned out to be tourists from Jap.) on the Nellis flight line. They were having a fine time taking pictures of Red Flag jets - right out ON the line. Did not understand one word of English, near as I could tell - but body language is universal. Especially coming from a 6'6" GI with a firm grip on each shoulder.

When the SP's showed up I read them the riot act, "taking a nap or what?" Their OIC (one each very puffy 1st LT) shows up and threatens me with charges for being verbally abusive to his troops. My response was, "I'll worry about that after I watch your trial for dereliction of duty, LT. Do you realize these two foreigners were walking among our jets - jets from other countries? You want to talk UCMJ charges? You are lucky all these guys were carrying was cameras! And they were on YOUR flight line, LT! You are the OIC! What I see is a complete failure on your part to enforce security of this flight line - that would be your JOB, LT!"

The cool part was that he (the LT) came down to my shop the next day and apologized for being an ass. I told him that I thought he should have never seen this - the car should have been stopped at the gate! A rental vehicle - no base sticker! That part of security was not his realm, in fairness. But I drilled home the points that, 1) maybe your end should have more coordination with the LE (gate) folks, 2) irreguardless, these "tourists" made it on to YOUR flighline - had they intended to do damage, they could have done so easily, 3) I've been in the USAF a lot longer than you have, it's obvious your commission does not mean you know everything - listen and learn.

That occured in 1986.

Shocks me to see that the same type crap is going on.

Fire some folks - kick them out of the service.

It's called accountibility.

LVM

[Minutemen]

You are correct. birds of a feather do tend to flock together.
Mexicans are not particularly fond of Salvadoreans or vice versa. Their Spanish is also quite different from each other.
Like American English and British English.

[Tancredo Fan]

Is there anything these stinking illegals aren't involved in? The military needs to be on the borders.

[CyberAnt]

ROTFLOL ... love the accent!