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NO SMALLPOX VACCINATIONS FOR AMERICANS
Fox News | 6/20/02 | Fox News

Posted on 06/20/2002 1:37:20 PM PDT by goody2shooz

Heard around 12:25 pm on Fox News Alert: the CDC, in a panel of twelve "experts", have announced that no widespread vaccinations of Americans will be conducted.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bioweapon; cdc; smallpox; terrorism
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To: goody2shooz
I think it's fine..

After all, the only people who want them are afraid to come out from under the bed to have them administered anyway.

21 posted on 06/20/2002 2:22:09 PM PDT by Jhoffa_
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To: Snowy
Did they give a reason???

SURE the less americans around the better to control the country its easier to control scared people than it is to control MAD people

I would do some digging nd find out just how much UN control sits over the CDC in the US but it wouldnt matter no one listens to that jibberish anymore !

22 posted on 06/20/2002 2:29:10 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK
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To: Jhoffa_
Adding a qualifier to #21.

If anyone WANTS, to go to THEIR doctor.. and PAY, THEMSELVES.. for a smallpox vaccination.. Then I think that's fine.

Now, if you want ME to help pay for it or if you want to force ME to go with you.. Then I object.

23 posted on 06/20/2002 2:31:50 PM PDT by Jhoffa_
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To: goody2shooz
I am willing to pay $100 each for my family to receive a smallpox vacination. I last received one in 1980, courtesy of Uncle Sam, and know that my immunity has since worn off.

My children and grandchildren have no protection, I would willingly pay for all of them, not trusting that this dread disease only survives in two secure research labs.
24 posted on 06/20/2002 2:35:18 PM PDT by Jerry_M
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To: Jhoffa_
No, the people who want them read history extensively and understand what a 1/4 - 1/3 fatality rate means. We have not seen anything like this in this country in our lifetimes - not even those who are older. And those who survive will be scarred for life. The only rational reason not to offer this to everyone is because they don't have enough vaccine.

Contain it - one of the most if not the most contagious diseases ever known - when it will have been deliberately dispersed from all points of the compass simultaneously? Oh, the arrogance. Failure of this country to take the side of caution re smallpox will change the course of history for the entire world.

25 posted on 06/20/2002 2:40:57 PM PDT by Let's Roll
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To: All
Stop to imagine how silly we would look if we vaccinated everyone (or even made the vaccine available on a voluntary basis) and people died receiving it, and then a terrorist group released their strain of vaccine-resistant smallpox. Ugh.

The vaccine has a history of causing a few problems -- a history that can be easily dismissed amid the concern about a terrorist-induced smallpox epidemic.  Here are a few images from the CDC.  You can go here for more:   http://www.bt.cdc.gov/Agent/Smallpox/VaccineImages.asp

 

Accidental auto-inoculation of eyelid with vaccinia virus with concurrent cellulitis. Photo courtesy of John M. Leedom, M.D.

 

Eczema vaccinatum in an unvaccinated contact to a vaccinated sibling. [from Fenner F., Henderson DA, et al. Smallpox and its Eradication. WHO. 1988]. 

 

Progressive vaccinia (vaccinia necrosum), which was fatal, in a child with an imunodeficiency. [from Fenner F., Henderson DA, et al. Smallpox and its Eradication. WHO. 1988].

26 posted on 06/20/2002 2:43:58 PM PDT by Nita Nupress
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To: Let's Roll

Oh, come on..

We don't HAVE a domestic outbreak and quite frankly all this jumping at shadows does more harm than good.

If people want it and they want to pay for it themselves, then let them do so. Till then fedgov has no right nor reason to go around giving everyone shots.

27 posted on 06/20/2002 2:45:23 PM PDT by Jhoffa_
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To: goody2shooz
Good. I don't want that hideous scar on my arm for something that's almost certainly never going to happen.
28 posted on 06/20/2002 2:45:58 PM PDT by Timesink
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To: Jerry_M
I last received one in 1980, courtesy of Uncle Sam, and know that my immunity has since worn off.

Actually, there's some question about how long immunity lasts. A lot of scientists think it might last longer in at least some people than previously believed.

Small comfort if you're actively worried about being exposed, of course...

29 posted on 06/20/2002 2:53:31 PM PDT by Timesink
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To: Jhoffa_
You get the vaccination BEFORE the outbreak - after is too late. Inform yourself. This is as important as a strong military and I bet you support that. This is war on the cheap waged against civilians by those who don't have the technology to wage a conventional war.
30 posted on 06/20/2002 3:00:15 PM PDT by Let's Roll
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To: Let's Roll
In 1954, when I entered grade school in the state of Indiana, you could not enter school without the vaccination. When I entered college in 1966, you could not enter Indiana University without the vaccination.

In 1968, you could not reenter the USA after travelling abroad without proof of vaccination.

Somehow the American public lived all those years with everyone being vaccinated. The anti-vaccination hysteria is a mystery to me. I must assume most of these folks are under 40 and think that there is some diabolical plot to people wanting them to get vaccinated.

I will happily pay whatever I can scrounge up to get my children and grandchildren vaccinated. I would be willing to pay $100 per person...even $200. The risk is quite small, as you know, and the risk of being unvaccinated is, in my opinion, far greater in this current situation.

31 posted on 06/20/2002 3:09:23 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: Kaslin
if I can remember correctly if a person had been ill in the last 6 month or a year, or had any kind of infection or open wound that person would not qualify for the vaccination

I wasn't asked anything about that when I got mine in March.

/john

32 posted on 06/20/2002 3:09:51 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper
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To: goody2shooz
Contact your Senators and members of Congress immediately if you reject this idea.

You really believe that would do any good? Has it ever?

Actually I'm slightly aghast that the government had the power to exercise it and decided against it. Did the drug companies not line their pockets enough?

Are you a communist? I mean you're looking for the government to do what you want for yourself but you don't think about just getting for yourself, you want it for everybody and "we the people" to pay for it.

33 posted on 06/20/2002 3:11:38 PM PDT by jwh_Denver
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To: Aggie Mama
"Why not give the option of receiving a vaccination if you want to?"

Last I knew they were going to allow vaccinations for any American who requests one.

34 posted on 06/20/2002 3:12:11 PM PDT by cake_crumb
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To: Timesink
I don't want that hideous scar on my arm for something that's almost certainly never going to happen.

I got mine in March, and I don't have a scar of any kind, much less hideous. The only possible side effect I had was that a skin tag near the injection site turned colors and fell off. That may or may not be related to the vaccination.

/john

35 posted on 06/20/2002 3:12:52 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper
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To: goody2shooz
Dear Goody,
To have smallpox vaccinations given enmasse with no option of waiving one is to actually sentence certain persons to a sad death. People who are on multiple medications due to organ transplants, or who have eczema, or who have AIDS (just to name a few populations) are all very much at risk for actually getting smallpox should they receive the vaccine.

America is supposedly the land of the free. I hope and pray we all are given the CHOICE to vaccine or not (be it smallpox or the rest of them) for many many years to come.
36 posted on 06/20/2002 3:17:36 PM PDT by whenigettime
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To: JRandomFreeper
"if I can remember correctly if a person had been ill in the last 6 month or a year, or had any kind of infection or open wound that person would not qualify for the vaccination

I wasn't asked anything about that when I got mine in March."

Unfortunately, many doctors forget to ask such questions regarding one's health prior to giving any vaccination. Such questions should always be asked. Another question that needs to be asked is if there are any known reactions to vaccines by family members.
37 posted on 06/20/2002 3:21:12 PM PDT by whenigettime
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To: Nita Nupress
Thanks for posting these photos. I hope this causes many to re-consider vaccines (not only smallpox).
38 posted on 06/20/2002 3:23:35 PM PDT by whenigettime
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To: goody2shooz
Totally predictable. When was the last time a government agency ever put the welfare of ordinary citizens first, particulary since the advent of rampant, hateful leftism into the body politic? Ten to one at least half the people at the CDC are actually against the war on terrorism and blame America for terrorism. Stamp anti-Americanism out of the government and you'll begin to see much better decision making from government.
39 posted on 06/20/2002 3:24:17 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: Timesink
I didn't expect 9/11 either. If they can obtain and effectively disperse this bio weapon they WILL DO IT! Fortunately the safety of your fellow citizens depends on their willingness to be afflicted with a hideous scar not on yours. (you could get the shot in your hip).
40 posted on 06/20/2002 3:26:23 PM PDT by Let's Roll
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