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To: chs68
but you have avoided answering the question, do you believe that the woman and the doctor should be charged with 1st degree murder 100% of the time?
4 posted on 06/19/2002 12:29:37 PM PDT by dmz
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To: dmz
I think abortions should be legal under the same circumstances in which killing a born human being is legal.

IOW: When they are an immediate threat to your life and the only way to defend yourself is to kill them first.

However, if you added rape I would not refuse to back the bill. I would wait for another day to prove that killing the child conceived in rape does not unrape the mother.

Shalom.

9 posted on 06/19/2002 12:41:34 PM PDT by ArGee
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To: dmz
do you believe that the woman and the doctor should be charged with 1st degree murder 100% of the time?

Absolutely. What other outcome is possible? The baby is a human. The doctor and the mother conspire together to end the baby's life. It's premeditated murder and they should both be prosecuted. No exceptions.

11 posted on 06/19/2002 12:44:09 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: dmz
but you have avoided answering the question, do you believe that the woman and the doctor should be charged with 1st degree murder 100% of the time?

I would be happier if they were charged with a misdemeanor and fined $5 each than I am with the current situation in the US, which is that abortion on demand for any reason whatsoever is a "constitutional right" from conception until the baby's head is outside the mother's body at birth.

Bringing up bizarre questions like "should the woman be charged with first-degree murder" is like diverting a discussion on shutting Auschwitz down to ask how we can possibly be sure we can apprehend and prosecute all the people who shoved Jews onto trains.

20 posted on 06/19/2002 1:14:27 PM PDT by Campion
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To: dmz
Anyone who kills a child (except of self-defense) is guilty of murder. Period.
32 posted on 06/19/2002 1:36:52 PM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: dmz
"but you have avoided answering the question, do you believe that the woman and the doctor should be charged with 1st degree murder 100% of the time?"

No, what I have not done is to allow myself to be drawn into a debate on the terms that those who profit from abortion would like to frame.

I suggest that the procedure known as abortion be made illegal. Right now, a physician can set up a clinic and advise women that an abortion medicaly necessary.

And the doctor can also perform (for a fee) an abortion.

You simply outlaw the procedure.

It is the doctor who performs the abortion that is charged. Not the woman

The effect of this law would be to close and shutter all the abortion clinic around the land.

Is it that YOU would like to have a law that would make women liable for a charge of murder?

Fine, if that is YOUR position.

It is not mine.

36 posted on 06/19/2002 1:41:14 PM PDT by chs68
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