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Genghis Khan, Democrats and the Minimum Wage
Newsmax ^ | 6/18/02 | Joan Nagy

Posted on 06/19/2002 9:31:40 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

Genghis Khan, Democrats and the Minimum Wage

Joan Nagy
Tuesday, June 18, 2002
When Genghis Khan invaded China he vowed to destroy the country. Seeing nothing of value he planned to level its cities and obliterate its culture. "It would be better to exterminate the Chinese and let the grass grow,” the 12th-century warrior Khan was said to exclaimed. Khan was shrewd, ruthless, and ambitious. Mongol armies ruthlessly eliminated any resistance, even slaughtering entire populations in conquered cities.

One man stood between Khan and the destruction of China. Yelu Ch’u-Ts’ai, was a foreigner to China, but had come to love and appreciate the superiority of the Chinese culture. Ch’u-Ts’ai managed to become a trusted adviser to Khan, and he advised him if he simply taxed the Chinese he could acquire great wealth. Khan, seeing the wisdom of this fact, took his advice and spared the cities and its residents.

When the city of Kaifeng was conquered after waging a long battle with the Mongolians, Khan ordered that all the inhabitants be massacred. Ch’u-Ts’ai, again, stopped the destruction by telling Khan that all the finest craftsmen and engineers in China had fled to Kaifeng and, by sparing the people, he could reap great benefits from their talents. Khan, again, took his advice and spared the city.

Never before had Khan showed such mercy on people in conquered lands, but then Khan wasn’t really showing mercy; he was showing greed. Ch’u-Ts’ai, without an army of his own, without firing one shot or uttering one threat, had stopped a murderous Mongol warrior.

Ch’u-Ts’ai was able to achieve this because he understood the art of asking for help and assistance. Most people never succeed at this art because they assume that other people will have a selfless interest in helping them. They naively appeal to the big picture of love, gratitude or mercy instead of appealing to mutually practical issues that would have greater value for the giver.

Ch’u-Ts’ai knew that he had to appeal to Khan’s greed; after all, he was a conqueror who seized and pillaged other nations. When someone oozes greed, you don’t make a case for mercy. Ch’u-Ts’ai succeeded where others failed because he understood what motivates people.

Ch’u-Ts’ai was good at this, but the American Democratic politicians have taken this art to an all-time high and have perfected the art of succeeding at achieving their personal goals, while appealing to greed in other people. Example: increasing the minimum wage.

The dynamics between the Democratic politicians and American voters are amazing. They appear to support one another, yet unlike the relationship between Khan and Ch’u-Ts’ai, which was a win/win situation, the one between the Democratic politician and the American voter is a win/lose situation, but the voter keeps falling for the same faulty argument.

Imagine the Democratic strategy meeting with politicians asking the question, "How can we persuade the American people to give up more of their money and yet, at the same time, convince them that it is in their best interest to do so?” Answer: increasing the minimum wage.

The first thing you must understand about increasing the minimum wage is that nothing the politicians say about it is true. First, it does not help the poor, and second, it is not offered by the politician because he or she cares and wants to help the poor working people. Let's examine both of those statements.



TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: democrats; minimumwage
So, the next time some slimy, soft-spoken, bleeding-heart liberal Democrat says he wants to help the working poor by raising the minimum wage, why don’t you ask him how he can take tax money from the poorest of the poor and still look at himself in the mirror?

Understand this: The party that reforms the American tax system will prove itself to be the real champion of the poor.

Yup!

1 posted on 06/19/2002 9:31:40 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge
Which is why, during my lifetime, I have seen the head-of-household of a family of four earning $20,000 being able to afford a comfortable lifestyle consisting of a house, two cars and a pleasure boat during the late 1950s to today’s standard of a head-of-household of a family of four earning $20,000 existing below the poverty level and eligible for food stamps and other government assistance.

Well, I think inflation has something to do with this. And think inflation is a big issue that goes beyond taxes and the minimum wage.

Also, it seems that this article is calling for tax cuts for the poor. Hey, I like tax cuts and I usually don't argue against them. But my understanding of the tax situation is that the bottom 50% of the population pays just 4% of the taxes.

Working hard for tax relief for the poor (who receive the services that others pay for) is not where I like to put my energy.

2 posted on 06/19/2002 9:53:35 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: NormsRevenge
BRILLIANT!!!I couldn't think of a more adequate platitude!!!!
3 posted on 06/19/2002 9:54:12 AM PDT by bandleader
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To: NormsRevenge
bump
4 posted on 06/19/2002 10:22:04 AM PDT by Maelstrom
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To: NormsRevenge
This solution is far from being a win-win and the folly of taking people off the tax rolls is obvious for all to see. Those who do not pay taxes are a natural constituency for raising taxes and for government "services" because they don't have to pay for them. Republicans get tax cuts past the Democrats and RINOs by magnanimously taking the bottom tier off the tax roll. Now these people have no reason to oppose government spending and taxing and in the end the Republicans MUST vote for more spending, thus higher taxes, because the majority wants it, knowing that someone else will pay for it.

I like the idea (given the income tax) of a low, say 10% tax on ALL, no exemptions, no deductions, real individual income. Then everybody has a stake in the system. Do that and eliminate CapGains and corporate income tax and the boom will make the recent Gay 90s Reagan economy look stodgy. Of course, that will exacerbate the problem of big government all over again because 10% after a couple of years, will bring in far more tax revenue than the 15-40% taxes we have now and the direction will be steeply up.

5 posted on 06/19/2002 10:52:01 AM PDT by arthurus
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To: NormsRevenge
Excellent analysis, but one more detail needs to be mentioned. The US economy is not a closed system. In practise, raising the minimum wage means more jobs for illegal aliens.
6 posted on 06/19/2002 11:06:28 AM PDT by Salman
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To: All
Personally, Id like to see the Capital Gains tax eliminated or greatly reduced. It would allow for such programs to be possible.
7 posted on 06/19/2002 3:43:05 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge; parsifal
His solution is no good because it just perpetuates the graduated income tax (which Marx himself said was the single most important step towards communism), but he very acurately outlines the problem with the minimum wage.

the real solution of course is to go to a nice low flat tax which number crunch after number crunch show will maximize government tax revenue because it will maximize economic growth, then let local market forces determine the minimum wage the way they have for centuries.
8 posted on 06/19/2002 3:54:50 PM PDT by discostu
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To: NormsRevenge
When the minimum-wage increase of $1 an hour produces a $2,000-a-year increase in the worker’s pay, the overall increase of the total goods and services which that worker must purchase in that same year might go up by $8,000 or more. This means that the minimum-wage worker has a diminished buying capacity of $6,000 a year.

This is complete crap. Think of it like this. You're making $35,000 peryear. Your boss says "Great job, Norm! I'm giving you a $5,000 raise." By your logic,Norm,you have to turn this down. Prices are going to raise $20,000 per year and you will lose $15,000.

So if you really believe your post, you and all the agreeing freepers (like you texaggie!) start refusing your pay raises. parsy.
9 posted on 06/19/2002 4:54:39 PM PDT by parsifal
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To: parsifal
Lately, for quite a few folks, there haven't been many if any pay raises.

I just post 'em, BTW..
10 posted on 06/19/2002 5:00:42 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge
Never mind me.I'm rabid. You will see why in a while when the shallow-minded laisse-faire freepers light on this thread. They will call me names and try to hurt my feelings. I will lash out, but it is out of my pain, not anger. parsy the sensitive.
11 posted on 06/19/2002 5:07:03 PM PDT by parsifal
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To: NormsRevenge
All taxation is theft.
Sheople like to pay taxes.
12 posted on 06/19/2002 7:50:56 PM PDT by S.O.S121.500
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