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New 'Scooby-Doo' Drops Drug Subtext
AP ^ | Jun 12, 2002 | ANTHONY BREZNICAN

Posted on 06/12/2002 7:37:54 PM PDT by jern

New 'Scooby-Doo' Drops Drug Subtext
Wed Jun 12, 2:08 PM ET

By ANTHONY BREZNICAN, AP Entertainment Writer

LOS ANGELES (AP) - In the new film "Scooby-Doo," a psychedelically painted van marked "The Mystery Machine" sits beside a beach while smoke wafts through the sunhatch and voices from inside groan, "Primo!" and "Talk about toasted!"

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That may seem suspicious, but the next shot reveals it's just the talking dog Scooby-Doo and Shaggy, his beatnik human pal, grilling burgers.

Never mind that the song from the soundtrack is the pot-smoking reggae anthem "Pass the Dutchie."

"Subtle, right?" laughed director Raja Gosnell, whose film is an adaptation of the long-running 1969 cartoon show "Scooby-Doo, Where Are You?"

The van scene is one of the film's few references to what many adult fans of the Hanna-Barbera series consider a wink-and-nod subtext to Scooby and Shaggy, whose gangly walk, relentless munchies and dazed manner seem to suggest a marijuana high.

"I don't know if Hanna-Barbera ever intended it to be so, but maybe the animators did," said Charles Roven, co-producer of the movie.

As for the other members of the "Scooby-Doo" gang of cartoon sleuths, fans have long speculated that Velma — the no-nonsense brains of the operation — is a lesbian, and that Fred and Daphne, the respective beefcake and cheesecake of the team, frequently searched for clues together to partake in carnal exploits.

The cast and filmmakers said they filmed many joking allusions to those inferences but ultimately decided to keep "Scooby-Doo" an innocent children's film rather than aim for older audiences.

The comedy's story features the gang assembling at the fictional "Spooky Island" theme park, which is plagued by strange disappearances, apparent brainwashing and monsters.

The film parodies some of the cartoon's more innocent conventions — the cliched unmasking of the villain, the superfluous celebrity cameos — but practically all of the mature double entendres were purged from the final edit.

"We played on all those things," said actor Matthew Lillard, who portrays creaky-voiced Shaggy. "Is Velma gay? Is Shaggy high? Are (Fred and Daphne) hooking up? All those jokes were in there, but we found at the end of the day it was more important to go the other way ... and that was to be more family oriented."

Gosnell believes the few adult references that remain will go well over children's heads.

"Some of that stuff is in there," he said. "If you look for it, you'll find it. If you don't, you won't."

"We touch on it now," Lillard added. "But we used to punch it in the mouth."

The original "Scooby-Doo" program borrowed some of the iconography of the 1960s hippie movement, but never overtly featured drug use, free love or homosexuality.

That inconclusiveness is part of what tickles people.

"If it becomes overt, then it sort of ruins what was always fun about the show: You thought you were the only one who figured it out," Gosnell said.

"In fact, to this day," Lillard said, "if you ask me if Shaggy is a stoner, I'll say no. ... That's what's funny about him: He just seems like that. He acts a little goofy and high, he's lovable and scared — and just happens to have the munchies."

Real-life couple Freddie Prinze Jr. and Sarah Michelle Gellar play Fred and Daphne, with Linda Cardellini, who had a small role in last year's "Legally Blonde," co-starring as bespectacled Velma.

The original script featured a scene in which Fred gazed lustfully at Daphne while she leaned over him to load luggage into an airplane's overhead bin. The camera then panned to Velma, who was ogling her too.

Later, Velma and Daphne shared a comic kiss, Gosnell said. The filmmakers say they believe those jokes would have hampered the story and could have imperiled the PG rating that the studio wanted and got.

When it comes to Velma's backstory, even Cardellini isn't sure how to characterize it.

"There were a few scenes where Velma comes out of her shell. I wouldn't say she comes out of the closet," the actress said. "I thought more along the lines that maybe her sexuality is a little ambiguous."

Screenwriter James Gunn, though, said he's "pretty sure she's gay. So we had a couple little nods to that in the movie and in the end, again, they were things that kind of (detracted from) the scenes."

Another deleted scene featured Fred attempting to talk his way into Daphne's hotel room under the pretense of protecting her, Roven said. The ratings board took issue with the fact that he was bringing his toothbrush, which implied plans to spend the night.

Those deleted scenes are unlikely to turn up even on the "Scooby-Doo" DVD, a format that frequently showcases unused footage. Warner Bros. would have to alert parents to the presence of PG-13 scenes on a PG home-video release, Roven said, something that could frighten away some family consumers.

Lillard acknowledged that older fans may be disappointed by the more wholesome approach.

"People out there, fans of the cartoons, teen-agers, young men — it's not going to be for everyone," the actor said. "But our movie is for families."

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On the Net:

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: California
KEYWORDS: drugs; movie; psychedelically; scoobydoo

1 posted on 06/12/2002 7:37:54 PM PDT by jern
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To: jern
Now if they could just get rid of the lesbo propoganda.
2 posted on 06/12/2002 7:39:35 PM PDT by Paul Atreides
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3 posted on 06/12/2002 7:40:23 PM PDT by Mo1
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To: Paul Atreides
They cut that part out, too.
4 posted on 06/12/2002 7:41:15 PM PDT by Rocko
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To: jern
Dang! They PC'ed the PC stuff. Now I don't want to see the movie. Wait... They're doing.... That's not right... I mean correct.....

Ahh, heck. Cheney: Scooby-Doo Film Is Inevitable.

5 posted on 06/12/2002 7:48:03 PM PDT by SpottedBeaver
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To: Paul Atreides
Now if they could just get rid of the lesbo propoganda.

I'm watching, right now, Free Speach TV where the gays and abortion activists are after Cardnal O'Connor.
They have "Stop this man" posters ready for pickets in front of Catholic churches.
They want to turn the church into a politically correct church. Get ready. They're comming to a church near you.
They feel the church is killing lives rather than saving them.
Police are removing protestors laying on the Catholic church floors during a mass.
They say there going in to help good Catholics save their lives and it's the church that is evil.
This is no joke. It's 10:55 EST.

6 posted on 06/12/2002 7:59:53 PM PDT by concerned about politics
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To: jern
And I already warned my kids not to ask to see this movie. I told them why. They don't seem too upset, but they really do like Scoobie-Doo. Shame.
7 posted on 06/12/2002 8:07:01 PM PDT by concerned about politics
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To: concerned about politics
It may not be a joke, but it's certainly old footage. O'Connor has been dead for a couple of years.
8 posted on 06/12/2002 8:08:29 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: Arthur McGowan
It may not be a joke, but it's certainly old footage. O'Connor has been dead for a couple of years.

It was on tonight. I don't even know who O' Connor is, but he must have said somehthing to tee them off.

9 posted on 06/12/2002 8:12:19 PM PDT by concerned about politics
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To: Arthur McGowan
PS....

The title of the program was "Stop the Church." I was crusing the remote and saw it. I was curoious about why the strange title. I assume they're showing it because of the recent scandle and re-uniting.
Free Speach TV is as liberal waco as it gets. Always "save the earth type" stuff.
I'm not Catholic, but I'm passing it on.

10 posted on 06/12/2002 8:17:11 PM PDT by concerned about politics
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To: jern
Sounds like good news, though clearly those scenes will turn up somewhere, on some bloopers show or compilation DVD, for example.

"Pass the Dutchie" a drug song? Who knew? I thought it was just childish nonsense, though it stands to reason that if reggae musicians passed anything around it would have to be ganja.

11 posted on 06/12/2002 8:21:44 PM PDT by x
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To: jern
From www.rainbownetwork.com:
Scooby Doo Lesbian Kiss Cut

The new Scooby Doo movie has had a kiss between two of its female characters cut from the film, after censors deemed it “inappropriate for family viewing”.

The scene in question sees Daphne kissing long time lesbian favourite, Velma. Buffy star Sarah Michelle Gellar, who plays Daphne, said

"Initially in the soul-swapping scene Velma and Daphne couldn`t seem to get their souls back together in the woods, and so the way they found was to kiss and the souls went back into proper alignment."

A source from the film’s production team went on to add,

“At the film’s first screening the censors were horrified by the kissing scene. They were shocked and said it was highly inappropriate for family viewing. It has now been edited out and will not be seen.”

The £70 million remake of the classic cartoon is due to be released next month.


12 posted on 06/12/2002 8:22:21 PM PDT by LarryLied
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To: jern
As for the other members of the "Scooby-Doo" gang of cartoon sleuths, fans have long speculated that Velma — the no-nonsense brains of the operation — is a lesbian, and that Fred and Daphne, the respective beefcake and cheesecake of the team, frequently searched for clues together to partake in carnal exploits.

Who in the world would see that by watching the cartoon? There was nothing like that there unless you had somewhat of a twisted mind. Geeezzzzz. They were teens chasing ghosts and monsters together. Geeeezzzz.

13 posted on 06/12/2002 8:46:24 PM PDT by concerned about politics
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To: jern
They would have gotten away with it....if it weren't for those meddling kids. Sorry, had to say it.
14 posted on 06/12/2002 9:03:57 PM PDT by lanceboyle
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To: jern
This is already posted on the general interest side.
15 posted on 06/12/2002 9:05:38 PM PDT by ValerieUSA
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To: concerned about politics
He was the Cardinal Archbishop of New York from 1984 to 2000. He was hated by the gay groups. In 1989, they rioted during Sunday Mass at Saint Patrick's. The following week, Mayor Koch was in the front pew, as a show of support for O'Connor.
16 posted on 06/12/2002 10:34:16 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: jern
Did anyone doubt that Scooby was a pothead? Anyone, Bueller.
17 posted on 06/12/2002 10:45:06 PM PDT by weikel
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