Posted on 06/05/2002 8:53:55 AM PDT by TexConfederate1861
"I here declare my unmitigated hatred to Yankee rule -- to all political, social and business connection with the Yankees and to the Yankee race. Would that I could impress these sentiments, in their full force, on every living Southerner and bequeath them to every one yet to be born! May such sentiments be held universally in the outraged and downtrodden South, though in silence and stillness, until the now far-distant day shall arrive for just retribution for Yankee usurpation, oppression and atrocious outrages, and for deliverance and vengeance for the now ruined, subjugated and enslaved Southern States!
..And now with my latest writing and utterance, and with what will be near my latest breath, I here repeat and would willingly proclaim my unmitigated hatred to Yankee rule--to all political, social and business connections with Yankees, and the perfidious, malignant and vile Yankee race."
--Edmund Ruffin , 1865
You're right, at 70 posts its way past due to hear that. I'll give Ruffin a break though. The article doesn't provide any evidence to back up what it says about him. Maybe someone here knows the real deal on his views about slavery and blacks. 'Till then I don' want to be fallin' for any insid-E-us durnyankee prop-o-gandee.
Gosh, and I thought it was that fine upstanding son of Virginia, Woodrow Wilson, that gave us both the income tax and bureaucracy it feeds--FIFTY FRICKIN' YEARS AFTER THE CIVIL WAR.
So far, you've managed to go two for two in not knowing where ex-Presidents come from. V-E-R-Y sloppy.
Born in Virginia in 1856, lived in Augusta, GA and Charleston, SC during Reconstruction, took a degree from the College of New Jersey, graduated from University of Virginia Law School, received a doctorate from Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore.
So you consider Johns Hopkins University and UVA Law to be "northern" schools, I guess.
What an amazingly plastic and facile set of definitions you tote around...
I think you just pissed off about a billion Chinese. Anyway, I must point out that you yourself have a little love affair going with pork barbecue -- a Southern (Eastern NC) invention, at least in the manner in which you prepare it.
I, for one "neo" Confederate or whatever, have no animosity toward northerners unless they move here and then talk about "how great it is back home." Despite the fact I truly believe the South HAD the right to seceed, it makes little difference now unless someone wants to mount a legal challenge. The fighting forces of the North and South had huge respect for each other -- as well they should have. Hating "Yankees" today because of what happened in the 1860s would be much the same as blacks today blaming everything bad that happens to them on slavery -- it just doesn't compute.
Good question (i.e., I've wondered the same thing myself). Ruffin argued for inherent black inferiority, but that can mean a wide range of things in practice. Jefferson Davis is frequently cited as a model slaveowner. Does anyone know what kind Ruffin was? Paternalistic and concerned for the moral instruction and personal improvement of "his people," or a drive-'em-till-they-drop" type? Respectful of slave families? Humane or quick with the lash? Decent in personal demeanor, or brutal?
Bump for an answer.
Holding on to "property" that never belonged to you, and was not "property" in any case, caused that problem.
(Did I mention that Sam Houston could whup Edmund Ruffin with one hand tied behind his back?)
Phantom Lord, if you are elected as the governor of a state, you should be a native of that state. Wilson wouldn't have gotten where he was if he would have run in a Southern state
Obviously the fault of Lincoln...
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