(North Carolina) GOP smells victory in 2002

The News & Observer ^ | June 2, 2002 | ROB CHRISTENSEN

[Arleigh]

I still do not see where any good has ever come from a female having authority. When women enter a debate reason and logic take a back seat to feelings and 'compassion'.

I'm a heathen, but I pretty much gotta agree with you here...

[marajade]

And what exactly did Paul say? That women can't be preachers right? What woman in gov't is a preacher? That women can't lead their household in matters of spirituality. What woman in gov't is leading in matters of spirituality?

Still waiting for the scripture.

[Arleigh]

Your preacher was lying to you...

You DO realize I'm being sarcastic here? Don't you?

My point is that I work with a lot of highly educated, highly successful blacks, and MOST of them think something along these lines. Even the least militant blacks often have a paranoid streak you wouldn't guess was there until you really get to know them.

November is gonna be real interesting...

[marajade]

At first I didn't but I did finally figure it out... Hence, my reply about your preacher lying to you...

[marajade]

My point is that I work with a lot of highly educated, highly successful blacks, and MOST of them think something along these lines.

Then they must not be using the education they got.

[lasereye]

What's so conservative about the bush agenda? Why do you think a Senate full of RINO's will do anything conservative about the courts?

Most of the Senate Republicans are not RINO's. Even most RINO's will not vote to reject one of Bush's nominees. Bush's court nominees have been conservative as proven by the fact that Leahy is keeping virtually all of them bottled up in committee and Thomas Pickering was shot down after a huge smear campaign. Do you know who Thomas Pickering is? I find that people like you usually have no idea what Bush's court nominees are. You just speak in ignorant generalities.

[callisto]

I see your point, but I'd really like to see this kind of turnout:

[arkfreepdom]

Yes, that was directed at demidog. Sorry for the confusion.

[marajade]

that's okay...

[Jorge]

That's right. Bush can't sign any of these treasury busting budgets unless they are first approved and submitted to him by Congress.
Reagan was also stuck with a spend happy Congress, which was really to blame for the deficits, even though Dems like to blame his tax cuts.

[marajade]

I guess he's just supposed to veto every bill even though that bill has huge Republican congressional support... Right...

[Arleigh]

Then they must not be using the education they got.

It's not just a smart/dumb thing - although that's part of the equation. It's a completely different world view. Just like a scientist can look at a bird's feather and see the wonders of evolution while a creationist can see the divine hand of God.

I live in a largely black neighborhood in a mostly black city, and work with a lot of well educated blacks. At the risk of stereotyping, they tend to see conspiracies everywhere. For example, bank doesn't get my mortgage check and I blame the Post Office for losing my letter. A black friend says, don't I know banks "lose" a certain number of payments each month so they can boost their profits with late charges? He wants to know if I'm really THAT naive.

In my personal experience, most blacks are CONVINCED that their candidate was elected president but that "The Man" stole the election. Hence, their votes didn't count. Hence they were "disenfranchised" - a big word they like to toss around.

[Demidog]

Would the Democrat help push forward Pres. Bush's agenda?

I suppose you misunderstood. Bush's agenda is bad for America. It's indistinguishable from the democrat agenda.

[Demidog]

Does that include control of the senate?

Bush got his unconstitutional "Patriot Act" passed without any need for control of the Senate or House. He got the totally bogus farm welfare bill passed and it didn't require a majority. He got the Education bill passed without any problem. He is a socialist and it doesn't make any difference which party is in charge. The GOP were willing accomplices in passing the crap he's been willing to sign or asked for (including the blatantly unconstitutional CFR).

[Twodees]

Yeah, the ignoramuses think they smell victory because they're putting on a full court press to anoint a candidate who could win running as a democrat.

The GOP is too ridiculous to be believed. They'll merge with the democrats as soon as we all get together and form a conservative party. We might as well get to it, because they're becoming indistinguishable from their intended partners as we speak.

[Torie]

They'll merge with the democrats as soon as we all get together and form a conservative party.

I think that has already been done, and you have several to choose from. It is a veritable embarrassement of riches for you. Of course, you probably vote for one of them in any event, so I don't think you are going anywhere.

[Twodees]

Both parties want it to be close, even contested after the vote is in. As we saw in 2000, that is the best way to get people who held their noses to vote for the candidate they chose to become solid partisans for awhile.

It's a damn dog and pony show with a dead dog and a cardboard cutout of a pony. The GOP is seeing to it that the choice will be between a liberal republican and a liberal democrat. What a reeking pile.

[Twodees]

A GOP majority Senate confirmed Janet Reno, left her in office and acquitted Clinton. Fewer people are buying the "advantages" of a GOP controlled Senate. Both houses of Congress should be required to wear those distinctive Stock Exchange trader's blazers, in pink for the GOP and red for the democrats so we could tell one side from the other.

[marajade]

And how many judges has he got voted on?

[Sonny M]

I know you were being sarcastic, but you are right in the sense that many blacks do have a paranoid streak. Sometimes its warranted, most of the time it is not. In Florida, the paranoia was rampant. Basically, many blacks SAW police and were intimidated. The reason so many cops? Because DemocRATS who worked at the polling places were scared about a large black vote and were intimidated and asked for more officers. The paranoia and naive that many blacks show does frighten me, but I believe that if they acquire the knowledge and are treated well, and no misled by liberals, they in general will be fine.