Posted on 05/30/2002 4:11:55 PM PDT by Bowana
MANCHESTER, N.H. -- After much debate, more than 40 pit bulls seized from an alleged fighting ring have been put down.
Officials at the SPCA said they had no choice because the dogs were raised to kill.
Authorities believe there are more fighting rings in the state and said that all pets are at risk.
The Newton, N.H., case was one of the biggest and most controversial animal cruelty cases the state has seen.
Forty-three pit bulls were seized from an alleged fighting ring in Newton.
"We strongly believe that any dog that has been specifically bred or conditioned for fighting should not be placed for adoption," Hillary Twining of the Humane Society said.
The dogs were euthanized after months of public outcry by advocates who wanted to save them. After numerous evaluations, experts decided the dogs were trained killers and too dangerous to be out in the community.
"It's an issue of nature versus nurture," Twining said. "You cannot rehabilitate what's genetically programmed."
The town of Newton has racked up $40,000 in housing and vet bills since the pit bulls were seized from their owner. Newton Police Chief Richard Labell said taxpayers may end up footing the bill.
"The law requires once [the owner is] convicted, he makes restitution to the town. Let's be realistic. Is he going to have any money to pay the town back?" Labell said.
Local authorities believe there are more fighting rings out there, and pit bulls may not be the only ones at risk.
Lisa Dennison of the New Hampshire SPCA said pet snatchers are out there.
"It could mean that animal could be a bait animal. [It] could be used as a bait animal in the training of pit bulls or maybe be seized for other purposes," Dennison said.
I just can't help it and neither can they! The good ole' Humane Society of the United States has done it again! The 43 Pit Bulls taken from a dog fighter in Newton, NH have been euthanized. A Pit Bull recovery organization had offered to save some if not all of the animals, but "Experts" decided that these animals were too far gone to be saved.
I understand the decision to euthanize these pit bulls, but when the HSUS got involved, I seriously started to question my belief, and RIGHTLY SO! Now who were these "Experts"? If the HSUS people were the so-called experts then those dogs were doomed right from the start.
I understand the fighting dogs, but I believe that there were some puppies too. It seems all the dogs were put to death. The Humane Society felt that this was the most Humane choice! Yes, real humane, didn't give any of those "Domestic" dogs a chance! If they were wolves, they would have spent millions of federal dollars to relocate them! What a bunch of hypocrites!
Hillary Twining of the Humane Society said "We strongly believe that any dog that has been specifically bred or conditioned for fighting should not be placed for adoption," So instead of adoption the only other choice was Death? When it comes to man made animals this is what the Humane Society wants! Just 43 more dead domestic dogs in their view!
Ms. Twining went on to say ""It's an issue of nature versus nurture," Twining said. "You cannot rehabilitate what's genetically programmed."
So since Pit Bulls were genetically programmed then She must want ALL pit bulls euthanized! Just another excuse to get rid of man made domestic animals, real Humane!
Well Ms. Twining, German Shepards were bred as Guard Dogs and Sentry dogs, so are they next? What about Akidas? They were bred in Japan to take down bears. That is a horrible thing to do with a dog, so maybe Akidas should go too. I Mean once these dogs were "Genetically bred" they were doomed weren't they Ms. Twining?
With all the billions of dollars that these Animal Rights groups take in, when it really comes down to the Animal's Rights, they are no where to be found. There was one group and maybe more could have been found, but thanks to the Humane Society of the U.S., what we have is 43 dead dogs!
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Good point! I hate that type of idiot. I have a pit bull and he is the best dog I have ever had. Very affectionate. Very playful. A real joy of a dog. I would like to show anybody who wants to hurt one of these dogs what it feels like to be in a blood match. parsy the PETA person.
Actually I DO!
Here is a Post of mine from last night:
From: Bowana (BOWANA_NH) May-29 3:18 pm
To: ALL (1 of 6)
Channel 9 just announced the decision to euthanize the pit bulls from Newton. Experts checked them out and decided that they couldn't be reformed. Well the Humane Society of the United States was involved and I wonder if these people were the so-called experts? I have said time and time again that they really don't like domestic animals no matter how much they try to hide the fact.
I understand the choice to euthanize these dogs, but when the spokesperson from the HSUS spoke I started to question the decision!
Obviously most here know that I don't like or trust them at all!
Well after the HSUS spokesperson the news continued with someone's voice, it wasn't the reporter's and I wasn't certain if it was still the HSUS spokesperson or not, but what they said was right out of the HSUS's play book!
The person said that "It's nature and nurture, you can't take out what is genetically bred into these dogs"! So fighting is genetically bred into them and it's not training and upbringing? Seems that there are a lot of pit bulls who never bite anyone and many people feel they are decent pets!
Whoever this person speaking was, obviously feels that ALL Pit bulls should be euthanized! Listen carefully to these wackos and you will get the truth!
Looks to me like the HSUS got rid of 37 more dogs in my opinion!
There was an organization that worked with fighting dogs and I thought they were willing to take them. Why not give them the chance instead of killing all 37 dogs?
I'm not a fan of pit bulls, but in truth it's not the dogs that I am not a fan of, IT'S THE OWNERS!
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This guy should never see the lightof day!
Do you remember a few (OK MANY) years ago when German Shepards and Doberman Pinschers got a similar reputation?
My Aunt Has dobermans that hide under the bed when strangers come in. She works for a Vet and said that "It's All in the Upbringing"!
I AGREE WITH HER!
"Polite" society's euphemisms are just ways of avoiding facing reality.
And anyone who thinks the mission of the Humane Society IS humane treatment of animals has been deceived, they are about PEOPLE control (who may own what pet, where, how much fees and taxes (more is always better)).
: the act or practice of killing or permitting the death of hopelessly sick or injured individuals (as persons or domestic animals) in a relatively painless way for reasons of mercy
The pit bulls were not injured or hopelessly sick!
It's very sad when dogs have to be put down,
but like your aunt said: "It's all in the upbringing."
In my opinion it would have been criminal if any of
these dogs would have been placed in a home
and then attacked them or others.
I understand that, but what about the puppies? Those too?
What if the Pit Bull Recovery group signed a waiver taking responsibility? (I know, It wouldn't mean anything)
Either way this decision went I probably would not have had an opinion, I can see both sides, but when the HSUS opens their mouth, I love to stick their foot in it!
The Humane society would be on the hook for that.
No, I don't think so. The town of Newton, NH was footing the bill for their care and the dogs were kept at the local SPCA, no connection to the HSUS.
Exactly.
My son used to have a Pit Bull and a Rottweiler, (not at the same time) and both were very gentle.
Exactly.
My son used to have a Pit Bull and a Rottweiler, (not at the same time) and both were very gentle.
Right, for those particular dogs, it's too late - they are already lethal.
So far, he has hit dead ends everywhere, he said in an interview Tuesday. One of the larger national shelters for pit bulls, in Los Angeles, is already housing 100 pit bulls, and people there told him they don't have room for any additional dogs.
Marc said he believes at least some of the dogs can be rehabilitated, but he admits that owning a former fighting dog is not for everybody. Marc has adopted one pit bull that is aggressive toward other dogs, but he said he takes precautions such as belting the dog to himself when they go for walks. He acknowledged that while some of the dogs might be able to go into homes, there is a shortage of people who are educated about handling pit bulls.
"I realize they're not for everybody. To me each dog is a potential best friend," Marc said. "Even if I can save one dog, it will be worth it to me; the more we can save the better."
From The POrtsmouth Herald:
Fervent debate on pit bulls' fate
From The Portsmouth Herald:
Protest against death for pit bulls removed from Newton home
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