Posted on 05/30/2002 11:03:34 AM PDT by Antoninus
On EWTN radio this morning, I heard a program called "Living His Life Abundantly" with Johnnette Benkovic. Some of you may be familiar with this program. Johnnette's guest today was Mary Jo Anderson, a business woman and mother who turned reporter in response to attacks on the Church from within. What she had to say on today's show was very disturbing and contained a lot of information I had never heard before. Here's the blurb on the show from the LHLA web site:
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How are dissident groups which claim to be "Catholic" using the current scandal to their advantage? What is their involvement in fanning the flames of attack against the Catholic Church? What types of "reform" are they calling for in the Catholic Church in America? On this eye opening program, guest Mary Jo Anderson discusses the agendas and aggressive tactics that are currently being used by dissident groups who claim to be "Catholic" to forward their own ideas. She also explores the homosexual subculture which has infiltrated some areas of the Church and its direct connection to the abuse scandals. You won't want to miss this informative program!
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Check it out if you have a chance. Ms. Anderson singled out a group known as "Call to Action" which is planning to have a major presence at the upcoming bishops' conference in Dallas. They are apparently 'gay-friendly', pro-priestess, and furthermore are trying to use the scandal to pry open the celibacy issue. Perhaps some area Freepers could show up and protest them. Also, it might not be a bad idea to start barraging some of these people with some "dissent" letters of our own.
I propose that we use this thread as a storehouse of information on such dissenting groups -- who they are and what they're doing. I'll start by posting a little blurb on 'Call to Action' based on some internet research. I encourage others to add what they know.
I propose that we use this thread as a storehouse of information on such dissenting groups -- who they are and what they're doing.Axios (Eastern-Rite Catholics and Orthodox G/L)
Corpus (Roman Catholic Priestesses)
Dignity (Roman Catholic G/L)
National Association of Catholic Diocesan Lesbian & Gay Ministries (Roman Catholic G/L)
New Ways Ministry (Roman Catholic G/L)
This meeting of AmChurch bishops, terribly afraid that effective action against pedophiles, pederasts and other perverts in the priesthood and in their own ranks or effective action against the enablers among them or effective action among the raving leftist heretics among them who make despising Catholicism their true profession while wondering over how their pal Father Lance could possibly have been diddling a series of little Johnnies, will now come to order. We have banned the press and media from, ummm, certain parts of our meeting, lest they report what mushballs we truly are as we agonize over what just happened to poor Rectalbert just because he championed all things alternative to Catholicism (like many or most American bishops) and because he was (sniff, sniff) so sensitively involved, (nose blowing in the background) so intimately involved in a loving personal ministry to a young artiste roughly of the male persuasion with a very strong lavender overlay. Even $450,000 of the money of the rubes in the pews was not enough (sob, sob). If they can do this to our Rectalbert, how many of us are safe from all this icky nosiness.
Roger Cardinal Mahoney: I move that we hear from the enlightened folks at the American Psychiatric Association. They were enlightened enough to stop, by democratic vote, referring to Rectalbert's and Paul's powerfully loving witness against God to no longer be evidence of mental illness. All they had to do was say so. Nobody loses and everyone gets prizes!!!!
William Cardinal Keeler: I second the motion. Can we also hear from the American Psychological Association? can we also do this quick? After all, Saturday night is date night and we are in Dallas where the action has been from the size of judgments handed down here.
Bernard Cardinal Law: We have arranged for bail for Father Paul Shanley, a definite expert in the area under discussion and a progressive in other areas too. Father will help us to understand Little Johnny's need for the NAMBLA treatment before 8, etc. I want this speeded up too. I can't be sure how long I will be free.
Unidentified voice: I think gay married priests might be the thing although monogamy is sooooo boring. Whatever we do, don't let all this scandal slow our progress. If we lose momentum and Rome acts efficiently, the catholics might be back in control.
Well, you get the picture.
AUXILIARY BISHOP CARL MOEDDEL of Cincinnati held three regional meetings in his archdiocese with homosexual activists and parents of homosexual children to promote the recent U.S. bishops' pastoral letter, Always Our Children (AOC).... Meeting attendees were also introduced to a "new educational project within the Archdiocese of Cincinnati" called "Concerned Catholics for Gay/Lesbian Inclusion" (CCGLI). According to CCGLI’s promotional literature, the project’s goals are as follows:N.B. Auxilliary Bishop Moeddel is a guest speaker this September at the 2002 National Conference in Cincinnati of the National Association of Diocesan Lesbian and Gay Ministries:1. To educate all parishioners on the total Church teaching with regard to homosexuality and the responsibility of Catholics toward gay men and lesbians;CCGLI has the blessing of Archbishop Daniel E. Pilarczykof Cincinnati.2. To share and witness the faith journey of gay/lesbian persons, their families and friends;
3. To begin the dialogue so parishioners have a means of communicating on an emotional issue;
4. [To] Develop a list of resources (speakers, video and audio tapes, books, etc.). These resources would also include the stories of gay men and lesbians in the Church so people can relate to their journeys; and
5. [To] Establish a referral list of parishes and Catholic organizations where Always Our Children is embraced.
Parents and others who attended the meeting were also given a list of therapists "who are gay-friendly/sensitive," including Kevin Prendergast at Catholic Social Services. The list was prepared by Kathy Laufman, a representative of GLSEN, the Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education Network. GLSEN is a national homosexual activist organization devoted to fighting for "sexual orientation rights" in schools.
Catholic Ministry WITH Gay and Lesbian PersonsSummary: Bishop Moeddel is an advocate for "gay rights" within the Church, works in conjunction with secular activist organizations who fight to teach "gay rights" in schools, and has the blessing of the Archbishop of Cincinnati, Archbishop Pilarczyk. You can contact Archbishop Pilarczyk and Auxilliary Bishop Moeddel as follows:Bishop Carl Moeddel, and the Cincinnati CMGL Archdiocesan Advisory Team. In light of the Gospel message of inclusion and love, this diocesan model reaches out to Gay and Lesbian Catholics, and their families and friends offering support and advocacy. This session looks at the development and growth of this diocesan ministry.
Most Reverend Daniel E. Pilarczyk
Archbishop of Cincinnati
100 East Eighth Street
Cincinnati, OH 45202
Phone: (513) 421-3131
E-mail: communications@catholiccincinnati.orgMost Reverend Carl K. Moeddel
Auxiliary Bishop of Cincinnati
100 East Eighth Street
Cincinnati, OH 45202
Phone: (513) 421-3131
E-mail: communications@catholiccincinnati.org
Well, it's been turned into a queer church, where a huge percentage of priests are active homosexuals (and are active sinners). I would say that that's gay friendly.
I agree. People from all walks of life seem to manage to keep their hands off of children (in a sexual sense). Can't we hold priests to that standard? And if not, what does that say?
The Church is chock full of active homosexuals (many of whom cannot keep their paws off of teenage boys), and the rooting out has NOT been started (or even really contemplated).
No power on Earth can convince me the Church itself hasn't been gay friendly lately.I'll say. Check out the following links to Christian denominations with "gay" advocacy groups:
"Shower of Stoles" links"Integrity" links
"Prism" links (N.B. Prism is now defunct : )
"AOL Hometown" links
If the Church wants to promote actual Catholic teaching - that we should be caring and thoughtful with regard to homosexuals, that a homosexual inclination is intrinsically disordered, and that homosexual conduct is sinful and not to be countenanced, I'm fine with that. If it wants to excuse (which many parts of the Church do) that active homosexuality in the priesthood and elsewhere is just fine and dandy, then it's not fine with me. I don't trust these groups to teach authentic (and scripturally based) teaching on homosexuality. Their agenda is much greater in scope. (And has led to all of these problems...)
That would be a necessity, since the bishops have not the courage or will to do so.
They want to educate all parishoners that:
| Part 3, Section 2, Chapter 2, Article 6, SubSection 2, Heading 5 2357 Homosexuality refers to relations between men or between women who experience an exclusive or predominant sexual attraction toward persons of the same sex. It has taken a great variety of forms through the centuries and in different cultures. Its psychological genesis remains largely unexplained. Basing itself on Sacred Scripture, which presents homosexual acts as acts of grave depravity, 141 tradition has always declared that "homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered." 142 They are contrary to the natural law. They close the sexual act to the gift of life. They do not proceed from a genuine affective and sexual complementarity. Under no circumstances can they be approved.
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| Part 3, Section 2, Chapter 2, Article 6, SubSection 2, Heading 5 2358 The number of men and women who have deep-seated homosexual tendencies is not negligible. This inclination, which is objectively disordered, constitutes for most of them a trial. They must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided. These persons are called to fulfill God's will in their lives and, if they are Christians, to unite to the sacrifice of the Lord's Cross the difficulties they may encounter from their condition.
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| Part 3, Section 2, Chapter 2, Article 6, SubSection 2, Heading 5 2359 Homosexual persons are called to chastity. By the virtues of self-mastery that teach them inner freedom, at times by the support of disinterested friendship, by prayer and sacramental grace, they can and should gradually and resolutely approach Christian perfection.
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| Part 3, Section 2, Chapter 2, Article 6, SubSection 4, Heading 3 2396 Among the sins gravely contrary to chastity are masturbation, fornication, pornography, and homosexual practices.
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I'd really like to believe this is what they want to teach. I'm having difficulty doing so. AB |
I'd really like to believe this is what they want to teach. I'm having difficulty doing so.I had hoped that the article I posted (#30 above) from the November/December 1998 issue of the St. Catherine Review was outdated; unfortunately, both Bishop Moeddel and CCGLI are featured prominently in this September's 2002 National Conference of the National Association of Catholic Diocesan Lesbian and Gay Ministries:
Annual Creating A Welcoming ParishSounds to me like Bishop Moeddel is the alpha male of this perverted pack.The Archdiocese of Cincinnati’s Concerned Catholics for Gay/Lesbian Inclusion (CCGLI) will describe how, through prayer and education, they seek to energize the accepting, educate the questioning, and challenge the condemning, to create a more loving, caring Church.
Most people intuitively understand that someone who wishes to put his sexual organ (designed to be part of the creation of life with a woman) up another man's rectum (designed to empty waste) has a serious and deep mental disorder. People with such inclinations should be treated with compassion. But I don't believe that we should turn our Church over to huge (and unrepresentative) numbers of such people. It would be like turning over the Church to huge numbers of alcoholics. And further, since so many of the homoseuxal priests in the Church are active homosexuals (flaunting the teaching of the Church [i.e. God's teaching] on sexual morality), it would be like turning the Church over to a large number of active alcoholics (drunks). Obviously, in either case, poor examples are set, correct teaching gets shunted aside, and dangers arise. In the homosexual case, thousands of teenage boys have been spiritually, phychologically and physically damaged. But the Church still tries to hide from the truth of this. Its pandering to homosexuals has obviously been and continues to be a much higher priority than the welfare of children and than that of teaching actual Catholicism. We should be very angry.
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