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Bono Versus Nugent
Rush Limbaugh, various new sources | May 29, 2002 | Self

Posted on 05/29/2002 2:21:48 PM PDT by Angelique

In listening to Rush today, the discussion of Bono's enterprise to pressure the USA to give more financial aid to Africa was a topic. During the discussion, Ted Nugent called in to state that he spends six months in Africa teaching the citizenry about hunting. If you are not aware, Nugent is an accomplished bowhunter.

Who is providing the most assistance to the African people? I watched a special on the tele where the medical care was so atrocious that the African people die from something so curative here. Question to you: Why with all this aid do conditions remain the same? Why does this Continent remain so primeval? Who is helping the most to make a difference? Nugent or Bono?


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To: gonzo; doug from upland
"Slim, I'm gonzo!"

I know...that's why I bumped you up. When's the new CD scheduled for sale?! I want a copy signed by both you and dfu.

FReegards...MUD

81 posted on 05/30/2002 1:50:38 PM PDT by Mudboy Slim
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To: Mudboy Slim;doug from upland
"...I want a copy signed by both you and dfu. .."

This seems do-able, Slim, but it's gonna cost you, bigtime.

Think October. We're selling two houses and moving to a third, so we're kinda busy through August.

I can fake Dougs signature - you won't know!............FRegards

83 posted on 05/30/2002 2:05:46 PM PDT by gonzo
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To: Physicist
>The idea to "transfer wildlife ownership to land holders" is actually a very capitalistic one. It's an idea that would almost certainly work. It's shocking that a liberal group like that would say such a thing; that alone should tip you off that the problem is a real one.

I don't want to annoy anyone by beating a point into the ground, but it seems worth at least one more post to say that whole notion of a dialectic defining the world -- of the Left vs. the Right, capitalist versus liberal -- is just a lot of Jedi hand waving designed to distract us while our minds are being messed with.

What the WWF backers are doing in Africa -- transferring traditionally tribal lands into private ownership (of various kinds) -- is effectively no different in result or intent from what the soviets did as they unionized northern Asia, they're just doing it with slightly (so far) less blood shed.

The ultimate end result is to create a managed Africa. An Africa where the resources are doled out to each according to his need by soviets -- er, um, academics who specialize in resource utilization -- and the darned, unenlightened masses will be saved from their own short-sighted, narrow-focus, range-of-the-moment, selfish thinking...

Popper titled his history book The Open Society and Its Enemies, not The Left vs. The Right or anything like that.

The struggle here is between a world of autonomous individuals versus a world of gate keepers and their charges.

The Soviet Union failed. But when the whole world has been turned into a managed economy where everything is essentially the same as it was in the Soviet Union -- only all the names will be changed, drawn from some silly capitalist grammer book where the labels are cool and make people think about freedom but all the definitions are inhuman horrors that turn human beings into gear wheels and push rods and cams -- then there won't be any escape. Then the only "failure" possible will be the failure of the human race.

But, then, this is all pretty obvious, isn't it?

-- KotS

84 posted on 05/30/2002 2:26:28 PM PDT by KissOfTheSith
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To: Mudboy Slim
Let's stop and consider for a second....
Who is Bono?
Just a f*cking musician! What the H*ll does he know?
This cult of personality/celebsainthood BS really gets under my skin.
85 posted on 05/30/2002 2:45:40 PM PDT by thescourged1
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To: mamelukesabre, Physicist
Hey, what do I know? I just think he's a great guy!

Make-A-Wish Says No to Boy’s Request (Nugent says yes)

"Let me tell you, when you go hunting with Ted Nugent, there is no Janet Reno around to stop you."
Nugent grants wish that "Make-A-Wish" won't
"Make-A-Wish just makes me want to puke my guts out," Nugent said. "What could be more pure than the last wishes of a young child? And to deny that because of political correctness? That’s just outrageous."

86 posted on 05/30/2002 4:46:22 PM PDT by Drumbo
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To: rudeboy666
I agree. We have to listen to Rosie. Don't you think that in itself is reason to say something on this topic with discussion of pop stars?
87 posted on 05/30/2002 4:51:28 PM PDT by Angelique
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To: mamelukesabre
Wrong, my friend. Dead wrong.

Ted Nugent is anything but a "loon".

Let's put it this way: I'm just to the right of Godzilla, but I've also followed Ted's career since the late '60's. He's one hell of a Conservative with a deserved capital "C". He has never done drugs........has never taken a drink of alcohol........has never so much as smoked a cigarette. He's been an auxiliary Sheriff in his county in Michigan for well over 20 years. He's a staunch defender of the Constitution; especially 2nd Amendment rights.

All of this while wildly succeeding in the hedonistic, ultra-left, destructive world of Big-Time Rock 'n' Roll.

The man's no saint, to be sure, and he has never claimed perfection............but he'd be welcome in MY home any time, any day, and I'd know that I had a houseguest who is polite, knowledgeable, intelligent (yep.....they ARE different qualities), one hell of an outdoorsman, self-sufficient, anti-Big Government, a lover of freedom, staunch conservationist (RESPONSIBLE conservation)....................and a kick-ass guitar slinger.

88 posted on 05/30/2002 5:27:36 PM PDT by RightOnline
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To: rudeboy666
Re: Your #58: Your characterization of Ted is quite wrong, my friend, on several points.

He's still extremely popular, despite not having a "Top 10" hit in years (trust me; he doesn't give a damn about that part). He knows his fan base; he KNOWS his audience. His shows are packed wherever he goes.

IOW, he has "been there, done that".

The man isn't chasing "mainstream music popularity" in this era of Britney and pathetic little-boy singing groups that all sound alike. Ted's a pure-on rocker. He has ALWAYS been outspoken; it just may be that you're just now noticing.

Those who you claim he's trying to climb upon to get noticed??? They WISH they've had Ted's success in the music business. He's an elder statesman of hard rock and makes plenty of bucks from his many, many business ventures (not to mention his concerts, royalties, etc.).

Let me put it this way: He doesn't need 'em. He never did.

89 posted on 05/30/2002 5:35:10 PM PDT by RightOnline
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To: RightOnline
As long as he continues to insult American beef, he is a loon as far as I'm concerned. Just because a person is republican, doesn't make them sane.
91 posted on 06/02/2002 2:58:12 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: mamelukesabre
"As long as he continues to insult American beef, he is a loon as far as I'm concerned. Just because a person is republican, doesn't make them sane."

LOL.....................well, I've never once heard him "insult American beef", so I'll just have to take your word for it. :) I DO hear him tout the benefits of killing and cooking your own meat, but that's it.

As far as him being "sane", let's just put it this way: I like 'im. I like 'im a lot. He's a good man, and if he's "insane", then I wish far more "insanity" on America.

BTW, it's bad form to call someone "insane" because they take a stance with which you disagree. I think you'll find that you and Ted would probably agree on 99% of other issues. That's pretty good common ground.

92 posted on 06/02/2002 5:40:22 PM PDT by RightOnline
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To: RightOnline
You are way off here. Ted does not take a different stance than I(politically). Naturally, we have a lot in common since we are both conservatives. But ted is still nuttier than a fruitcake. Just listen to him talk about food, especially meat, some time. He is way out in left feild. Take your average health food nut and multiply by 10...then you get ted's point of view on food.
93 posted on 06/03/2002 12:46:04 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: mamelukesabre
You just generally repeated what I said to you, you realize. :)........EXCEPT that I disagree about his being nuts. So you don't like his stance on hunting and the "natural, kill-it-and-grill-it" lifestyle. Fine. BTW, used to be the norm in this country before there was a Safeway or a Food Lion or a Piggly Wiggly.

Forgot 'bout that, didn't ya? :) Were your ancestors all nuts? All of ours? The pioneers? If it's different from what other people do, it makes one "nuts"?

Come on....................

94 posted on 06/03/2002 3:08:39 PM PDT by RightOnline
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To: RightOnline
No, you are still way off. I am not against hunting. I hunt. I am against ted's whacky ideas about american beef being poison. American beef is good for you. I eat lots of it and I will continue to eat lots of it and anyone that says it is bad for you is a moron and a crackpot.
95 posted on 06/04/2002 1:05:01 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: Angelique
Hi, ol' friend. Who is a Nugent expert online? I have a timely question for him or her! (I was around back then---in that place long ago and far called the late sixties and early seventies---but Nugent's style of rock was not my cup-o'-tea. I know Ted now, of course, for his notoriety over the years for his admiriable non-pc views on guns, hunting, etc.)

"Wango Tango" is a phrase I associate with Nugent in the far reaches of my previously cannabis-tinged brain tissue (I did inhale but as I said---that was the late sixties! At least I quit and grew up, unlike the libertarians here who are firing up blunts this morning even as I write this, and preparing screeds on the eeeveeel war on drugs...but that's another story...interestingly---isn't Nugent totally anti-drug? But I digress...)....In fact, Wango Tango---I just researched on Allmusic.com---was a song of Nugent's. I seem to recall that he had a tour or tours or festivals or whatever by that moniker---Wango Tango.

I noticed this morning while canvassing news that either recently or currently there's a concert or festival of some kind in California featuring a bunch of rock acts, and this event is being called, the Wango Tango. Upon further investigation, I determined it was sponsored by a radio station. I looked but among the stars listed----No Doubt, Aerosmith, Pink, etc.---I did not see Nugent. Which, of course, did not surprise me, because as soon as I saw those names, I felt Nugent wouldn't be there because he isn't exactly running in those musical circles these days, is he?

What had immediately caught my eye, along with, "Wango Tango," was the the Osborne child singing "Papa Don't Preach." THAT is when I thought, this CAN'T be Nugent, because I had read NUGENT DISSING the Oz man.

So, do you know what gives? Did Ted err by not copywriting or patenting, "Wango Tango," as obviously Ozzy did with "Ozfest"? Isn't it terrible that someone has CO-OPTED something like that that belonged to Nugent and made it into something else??

96 posted on 06/16/2002 8:27:31 AM PDT by gg188
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To: gg188
Both Ted Nugent and Ozzie continue to be successful. I really have not followed either, except trying to get Nugent to attend the opening of our archery range. He is an excellent hunter. And Ozzie was invited by the CNN reporter to attend the DC reporter's dinner. I don't think he bit off any bats heads that evening.

I do not know about "Wango Tango," but I do know that these guys are smart, and are independent. Just think how long they have lasted, and who would have believed? My parents HATED them.

97 posted on 06/17/2002 2:31:35 AM PDT by Angelique
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To: rebelyell
I just mentioned to another poster that it is a known fact he is quite the hunter.
98 posted on 06/17/2002 2:39:28 AM PDT by Angelique
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