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Investor held amid Sept. 10 concerns
UPI ^ | May 25, 2002 | National Desk

Posted on 05/26/2002 10:05:56 PM PDT by galethus

SAN DIEGO, May 25 (UPI) -- An Internet investment adviser charged with insider trading was being held without bail on a parole violation Saturday after federal prosecutors in San Diego raised questions about a stock-sales order he placed the day before the September terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon.

Amir "Anthony" Elgindy, 34, of Encinitas, faces charges in New York of allegedly taking part in a stock manipulation and extortion scheme with four other people, including two current and former FBI agents. Prosecutors, however, raised questions during a detention hearing Friday about what he might have known about the deadly attacks.

Assistant U.S. Attorney Ken Breen argued that Elgindy, a native of Egypt who now lives in a $2.2 million home in an upscale beach community north of San Diego, had ordered the sale of $300,000 worth of stock in his children's trust fund on Sept. 10, and at the same time had told a stockbroker that he was expecting an imminent drop of some 3,000 points on the stock market.


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To: galethus
This has nothing to do with 9/11. This guy shorts stocks for a living. He's no more connected to Bin Laden then you are to Clinton. http://www.siliconinvestor.com/stocktalk/subject.gsp?subjectid=23993 What he did was bad enough, the prosecutors shouldn't need to link him to 9/11 to put him away. Basically he'd find out from a couple of FBI agents what scam companies were being investigated then he'd short / extort from the companies.
41 posted on 05/27/2002 6:36:33 AM PDT by ktupper
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To: ktupper
the prosecutors shouldn't need to link him to 9/11 to put him away

The FBI was going through data looking for trades like this moron made and his name just happened to fall out. When they chased it to ground, they found FBI agents on the other end. Pure luck.

42 posted on 05/27/2002 6:38:39 AM PDT by Glenn
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To: higgmeister
Muslims = pull-starts (they have a starter cord wrapped around their head)

Hindus = push-starts (they have a button on their forehead)

45 posted on 05/27/2002 8:12:57 AM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: Lazamataz
"Information is power, and those with lots of information -- FBI and KGB and CIA and the like -- are always able to exert said power."

Especially when they are protected by secrecy. That is why I say, as soon as those organizations were created in the United States, there was no way to control them, and we sentenced our freedom to death. The only way to have a free country, is to have a decentralized government, and to have a place in the world that doesn't require such organizations. It's too late now. The first HUGE blow to liberty was the centralization of the Federal government in 1865. WWII was another HUGE blow. Hitler succeeded in making us Socialistic, after all.

46 posted on 05/27/2002 9:10:22 AM PDT by agrandis
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To: imperator5
This is the indictment. Read it carefully. Much more to come and I believe that the FBI will not be the only government agency involved in this mess.

http://news.findlaw.com/cnn/docs/fbi/uselgindy502ind.pdf

Elgindy often predicted stocks that would be halted before they were halted. The SEC never seemed to act on all of the complaints that were sent to them. People contacted the SEC in droves with suspicions that Elgindy was manipulating stocks. One SEC person sent a letter praising Elgindy for the mail fraud sentencing hearing. I think someone in the SEC will hit the skids on this one. I just don't know who.

47 posted on 05/27/2002 9:53:35 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: joyce11111
It actually gets even more interesting than Anthony being involved with FBI agents.

Anthony's brother is a pro-arab activist in DC. His name is Khaled, he was the former Press Secretary for Cynthia McKinney. In 2000, he worked with Candidate Bush, and is now a political appointee by this administration, a "Policy Analyst, U.S. Commission in International Religious Freedom".

Here are some wonderful quotes that show his openness to Jewish and Christian thought:

" Mr. Elgindy then turned the discussion to the Congress, which he called "perhaps the greatest single challenge that we face in raising the issue… because the ‘other side’ has done a tremendous job of monopolizing the discourse on Capitol Hill when it comes to Jerusalem." He talked about the pro-Israel lobby’s legendary influence on Capitol Hill, which many people in our community view as almost mythical; but it is important for us to remember, he said, that they are not unbeatable. And sometimes they wield their power arrogantly, which may prove to be their Achilles Heel... What we have going for us is the moral high ground," Khaled Elgindy told a Washington panel discussion on "How to Discuss Jerusalem with the American Public." Mr. Elgindy said that while the Jewish lobby has the art of manipulation, the skills and the experience, the Arab Muslim community has the "weapons" of truth and justice in its arsenal.

And another out of Cairo that he wrote:

" Equally as disturbing as the alleged ties to Zionists are the Coptic associations' affinities for another group inimical to Arabs and Muslims. The powerful Christian Right, whose cult-like devotion to Israel and profound disdain for Islam are among the pillars of its religious-political doctrine, has also given wide play to Coptic claims of persecution. For evangelical Christians, the litany of "social ills" these born-again soldiers of God aim to defeat -- abortion, homosexuality, pornography, higher taxes, etc. -- was added a crusade against Islam and Muslims. "

Khaled is pro-arab, but isn't aligned with the Taliban or anything like that, but obviously could have connections with them is his various positions in DC, and his being Egyptian/American. It could be, that he is/was both the source for Cynthia McKinney, and that he tipped off his brother Anthony too.

Sure, Anthony is a short trader to the extreme, but he made some very suspicious moves on Sept 10th. Trying to liquidate a 300k trust, just out of the blue, while saying the Dow is going to drop to 3000, at the same time he's moving assets into Lebanon... makes me wonder!

48 posted on 05/27/2002 9:58:18 AM PDT by Vis Numar
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To: galethus
Hit back Arthur Andersen.

Demand an audit of the Federal Reserve!

49 posted on 05/27/2002 9:58:29 AM PDT by fightu4it
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To: snopercod
Bull, Anthony was short up the kazoo, over $2Million on Spet 10th, he ws short!
50 posted on 05/27/2002 10:01:30 AM PDT by Vis Numar
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To: Vis Numar
Could you post a link referencing his short position on the 10th?
51 posted on 05/27/2002 10:07:02 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick
It wouldn't surprise me to find out that Anthony had friends in the SEC. This is the first "Short & Distort" effort made by either the FBI/SEC/NASD, compared to many "Pump and Dump" investigations. Why? Well, we know partially now. But remember, the FBI also turned on Anthony and these agents, at an opportune time as well. In fact, Anthony was apparently alerted by the moles in the FBI that they were coming after him. I doubt that Anthony would have known about 9/11 due to the FBI, as he would then be able and use it against them.
52 posted on 05/27/2002 10:07:56 AM PDT by Vis Numar
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To: RummyChick
Stockwatch out of Canada is the one who has done most of the research here. There are hundreds of posts on SI, and one of their PR's mentioned it: Started By: Anthony@Pacific

Anthony was a professional shorter, it shouldn't be surprising that he had $2M short on this day.

53 posted on 05/27/2002 10:11:26 AM PDT by Vis Numar
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To: Vis Numar; rdavis84; thinden; aristeides; Nita Nupress; Boyd; OKCSubmariner
See #48; very interesting sibling connections.
54 posted on 05/27/2002 10:29:30 AM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: mhking; trueblackman
Look at #48 (possible connection between McKinney and the short trading before 9/11 -- wonder why McKinney thinks Bush staged 9/11 to make money for his corporate buddies, could it be because that's the sort of thing she does?)
55 posted on 05/27/2002 10:42:19 AM PDT by aristeides
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To: Fred Mertz
Fred, see reply #58 from yesterday on this thread ------ FEDERAL BUREAU OF INCOMPETENCE

I lifted it as a simplification from a very talented poster on another forum. BTW, some real talent there, but I won't link to it.

57 posted on 05/27/2002 1:21:01 PM PDT by rdavis84
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To: Fred Mertz
Let me make it easy for all ---

"Representative McKinney would appear to be in the Osama Bin Laden camp. The other day a fellow Freeper published the identities of all her campaign doners. It was truly incredible."

How about this tie right into the Bush Camp of  the brother of the Con Man involved with the corrupt FBI Agents and McKinney?-------

"What would appear is that Khaled Elgindy, brother of Ibrahim Elgindy who is being held by the FBI in connection with suspicious 9/11 trading, has been a DC activist aligned with McKinney as her Press Secretary. He then hooked up with Candidate Bush, which followed by his being appointed by the Bush Administration to the USCIRF, 2001-2002."

"STAFF OF THE U.S. COMMISSION ON INTERNATIONAL RELIGIOUS FREEDOM
May, 2000 through April, 2001 ----- <<<< snipped >>>>

Khaled Elgindy, Policy Analyst

(The Only Point being made is the Nature of the Beast we are dealing with. The Circles within Circles assure that there WILL BE NO TRUE CORRECTIVE ACTIONS)

58 posted on 05/27/2002 1:26:11 PM PDT by rdavis84
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To: RummyChick
Did you find the quote of his having $2M yet? Don't worry, it's out there. I was actually surprised, I thought his net worth was much more than what has come out so far.

Man, I didn't realize that you could say things like this and still get political appointments in DC, I am so naieve! I wonder, with a family & pro-arab like this, spread out as they are: http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AZNT&read=160239 How they wouldn't have known ahead of time!

Congress Is Not For the Faint of Heart

To Representative Jim Saxton (R-NJ), Washington, DC, Jan. 5, 1999.

You were absolutely right not to travel to Israel with the president last month. How would it look to your many pro-Israel PAC benefactors who would see you standing next to the president of the United States as he acknowledged to the world for the first time ever by a sitting president that Palestinians were in fact human? That they had been “dispossessed” by Israel and that Palestinians deserve to live “in freedom” and determine their own future on “their own land.” Who could stomach such preposterous assertions? Or worse yet, how would your campaign managers and fund-raisers take the news?

No, Congressman, you did the right thing. You are a man of honor and principle. You are right to oppose the enormous $400 million aid package for the Palestinians. Why that’s more than two weeks’ worth of aid to Israel! Now if we set aside the money Israel uses to maintain its illegal occupation of Lebanese, Syrian and Palestinian territory, build hundreds of illegal Jewish-only settlements on confiscated Palestinian land, maintain costly prison space used to house (and torture) thousands of Palestinian political prisoners, and mobilize the hundreds of bulldozers needed to demolish Palestinian homes, why surely something of Israel’s $7 billion aid package must be left over for righteous works.

We need more representatives like you, Mr. Saxton. Congress is not for the faint of heart. We need members of Congress who don’t get squeamish at the sight of carnage like the kind Israel inflicted at Qana in April 1996 when it slaughtered more than 100 civilians in Lebanon seeking shelter as Israeli warplanes rained death and destruction on their villages. After all, Lebanese and Palestinian victims of Israeli terror do not finance your expensive campaigns.

Mr. Saxton, you will be remembered for your unwavering allegiance to Israel. Even when faced with Israel’s continued violation of more than 70 U.N. resolutions your loyalty is undeterred. Even the knowledge that 26 American citizens continue to languish in Israeli jails, some of whom have been tortured and many without charge, is not enough to frustrate your devotion to Israel. If only you had been elected to serve and represent the people of Israel instead of the 3rd District of New Jersey.

Khaled Elgindy, Arlington, VA

59 posted on 05/27/2002 1:29:50 PM PDT by Vis Numar
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To: Fred Mertz
Let's take it farther for those new questions about him ----

Khaled Elgindy is currently a policy analyst for a federal commission. Prior to that he served for two years as political action coordinator for the Arab American Institute in Washington, DC where he worked on various domestic and international issues of concern to the community. He previously served as press secretary for Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney, and as a program officer for the National Democratic Institute (NDI). Khaled has a master's degree in Arab Studies from Georgetown University's School of Foreign Service and BA in Political Science from  Indiana University.
  ----- http://www.mit.edu/activities/arab/iasc2000/panels.html

We affirm that every Palestinian has a legitimate, individual right to return to his or her original home and to absolute restitution of his or her property.
Signed,
(among others)
Name:
Khaled Elgindy
Location: Arlington, VA USA
Date: Sunday, January 23, 2000 at 11:46:28
 -------------From ----   http://rightofreturn.org/be-active/petition/results/backups/friends1.html

Background: The US Commission on Religious Freedom, which was established by an Act of Congress in late 1999, is planning a visit to Egypt on March 19, 2001(next week). The commission has employed among its staff an Egyptian Muslim Named (Khaled Elgindy) as an analyst. The commission is planning on visiting Egypt in two weeks and hopes to use Mr. Elgindyy as a translator.  --------From ------ http://216.239.37.100/search?q=cache:zugCA5XvFUsC:www.geocities.com/bisher_rihani/view_guestbook.html+Khaled+Elgindy&hl=en

60 posted on 05/27/2002 1:30:23 PM PDT by rdavis84
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