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STOP AIDS BY STOPPING THE SINS
US Centre for DIsease Control & the Physicians Consortium ^ | 5/22/2002 | RWBaral, RN,CEN,EMT-P

Posted on 05/23/2002 1:46:16 PM PDT by RWBaral

STOP AIDS BY STOPPING THE SINS

I write as Chairman of the non-profit organization, "Be informed! Lessen suffering! Save lives!, inc." The mission of BLS is "to promote the public health, education, understanding and virtue." I wish to share how we can all help stop the terrible disease of AIDS in America.

It is heartening to know that many are concerned about the suffering and dying from AIDS, and of events to raise money to help AIDS patients. However, such AIDS fundraising events are not an answer to stopping this horrific disease. Rather, let's tell the truth about AIDS. Stop AIDS by stopping the sins that have caused atleast 88% of AIDS cases in the USA. Allow me to explain.

As a career hospital Paramedic and then emergency room Nurse over about 20 years, I have seen so much suffering and death, often self-inflicted and avoidable. For such things my heart and soul break beyond human words. Some of these were AIDS patients.

I note certain activists, industries and politicians - often willingly - are ignorant of the FACTS of who is at risk for contracting HIV and thus what we can do to prevent it's spread. Politics and money over the health and welfare of people? It shouldn't happen, but it does.

Consider the US Centre for Disease Control (CDC) table 5 US AIDS totals for men and both genders to 12/31/2000 for exposure categories: men who have sex with men (MSM); intravenous grug abusers (IVDA); both MSM and IVDA; heterosexual contacts, etc (www.cdc.gov/hiv/stats/hasr1202table5.htm).

For US male AIDS cases, 56% are MSM; 22% are IVDA; 8% are MSM and IVDA; 5% are heterosexual contacts.

For US both genders AIDS cases, 46% are MSM; 25% are IVDA; 6% are MSM and IVDA; 11% are heterosexual contacts. 46% + 25% + 6% + 11%=88%.

Further, so called "safe sex" is a medical lie. The Physicians Consortium reports that, even if male latex condoms are used 100% perfectly all of the time, they are no more effective against HIV infection than 85% (www.headlines.agapepress.org/archives/7/252001b.asp).

So what does this data tell us? The truth. Avoid homosexual relations. Do not use intravenous drugs. Do not be sexually promiscuous. Stop the at risk behaviours, and you stop most HIV infections.

Translated: simple! The answers to stopping most US HIV infections, and thus AIDS cases, are morality and marriage. GOD gives us His Moral Code (ex Ten Commandments) and the institution of marriage because He loves us, wants to protect us, and see us flourish and be happy.

Thus, do not engage in forbidden sexual perversions that will cost you your earthly body and the damnation of your eternal soul. Keep your body clean and don't mess with drugs. Abstinence until marriage, then marrige between one man and one woman, within a mutually faithful, loving, uninfected relationship, hopefully for life.

The days of consequence-free sexual debauchery, free love and casual sex are over (as if they ever really existed?). The sexually transmitted diseases you can acquire today in America too often can't be just taken care of with a few pills or a shot. AIDS is lethal, and there is not likely to be a cure - ever.

The AIDS fundraising events, etc are nice gestures, but the answer to stopping most HIV infections in AMerica is to avoid the risk factor exposure category behaviours of homosexual relations, intravenous drug use and sexual promiscuity. Stop AIDS by telling the truth. Stop AIDS bwith GOD's Moral Code and the blessings of marriage. "Stop AIDS by stopping the sins" is my humble prayer, in JESUS' Name, Amen.

GOD's Speed To All,

Mr. R. W. Baral, RN,CEN,EMT-P, Chairman, "Be informed! Lessen suffering! Save lives!, inc." Po Box 315 Bennington, VT 05201 bls135@aol.com (802)-423-7636


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To: stuartcr
If God made someone to be a homosexual and contract aids or not, that's what will happen.

God didn't make anyone that way. He made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve. Their homosexuality is a perversion that is addressed as such in the Bible. It is one of the main reasons Soddom and Gomorrah were destroyed.

Bottom line: it's a choice that they can make because of the free will that God gave them. It is not a good choice, however. They have the opportunity to be saved, they just have to repent of their sins and accept Jesus' death as payment for them.

81 posted on 05/28/2002 1:26:15 PM PDT by Come get it
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To: Come get it
ME-Sounds like He is is willing to accept(demand ) love given "freely", but not give unconditional love.

YOU-Here's where you're wrong. He loves those who are sent to Hell. He loves them very much. He hates their sin, and that's why they go to hell: because they won't let go of their sin.

Is there a backdoor to hell that I haven't heard of ?
Do you set up a situation where your loved ones can be forever tortured for their trangressions against you?
Where the overwhelming majority of your so-called "children" will spend an eye-blink alive and then an infinate time screaming in agony?
Is God allowing us to be decieved into thinking that hell is forever?

Are we to be condemned for NOT following His lead if we do not banish our children forever, and instead always allow them the oppertunity to restore the relationship ?

Before you or I were born He knew if we were going to be sent to hell with His knowledge and consent - Why bother ?

No matter how much "free will" you think you have, your seat is already reserved for you and there is no action that you can take that can change your ticket.

82 posted on 05/28/2002 5:21:15 PM PDT by RS
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To: Come get it
ME-Sounds like He is is willing to accept(demand ) love given "freely", but not give unconditional love.

YOU-Here's where you're wrong. He loves those who are sent to Hell. He loves them very much. He hates their sin, and that's why they go to hell: because they won't let go of their sin.

Is there a backdoor to hell that I haven't heard of ?
Do you set up a situation where your loved ones can be forever tortured for their trangressions against you?
Where the overwhelming majority of your so-called "children" will spend an eye-blink alive and then an infinate time screaming in agony?
Is God allowing us to be decieved into thinking that hell is forever?

Are we to be condemned for NOT following His lead if we do not banish our children forever, and instead always allow them the oppertunity to restore the relationship ?

Before you or I were born He knew if we were going to be sent to hell with His knowledge and consent - Why bother ?

No matter how much "free will" you think you have, your seat is already reserved for you and there is no action that you can take that can change your ticket.

83 posted on 05/28/2002 5:22:22 PM PDT by RS
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To: Come get it
ME"so the creation of evil was a choice, something he required in the world."
YOU-"Of course, because without it, we would have no choice on how to behave. "

Interesting - God as the original, ultimate, purposefull source of all the evil in the world.

84 posted on 05/28/2002 5:29:19 PM PDT by RS
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To: Come get it
How do you know why or how God made someone, because the bible said so? There are millions of people that believe in God as much as you, but do not follow the bible. Just because something was written by a human being doesn't mean it's true, especially when dealing with God, who has reign over all.
85 posted on 05/29/2002 5:59:53 AM PDT by stuartcr
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To: RS
Is there a backdoor to hell that I haven't heard of ?

There are many ways to get into hell, but the path to salvation is narrow.

Do you set up a situation where your loved ones can be forever tortured for their trangressions against you?
Where the overwhelming majority of your so-called "children" will spend an eye-blink alive and then an infinate time screaming in agony?

1) If there are no rules, there is chaos.
2) If there is no way to enforce the rules, they may as well not exist, and we're back to #1.
3) Parents who love their children will enforce consequences for their actions.

Are we to be condemned for NOT following His lead if we do not banish our children forever, and instead always allow them the oppertunity to restore the relationship ?

We all still have the opportunity to restore our relationship with God, right up to the time that we die, or until He comes back, whichever is first. Those who spend eternity in Hell are those who purposely decide to turn their backs on God. If someone is never exposed to God and has never even heard of the Bible, God knows that and He will judge them according to what they did with what they were given, the same way we will all be judged. If you grew up being taught the things of God, have read His Bible, and you still turn your back, you will be judged accordingly. If you try your best to find out what His plan for you is by seeking Him daily, and you do your best to avoid sin and keep His commandments, you will be richly blessed when you enter Heaven.

He is a very loving and forgiving God; all you need to do is repent of your sins, accept Jesus' death as payment for them, and ask for forgiveness. This does not mean that you will never sin again, for no man is sinless, not one. When you have a right relationship with God, He will point out your sins to you and you must repent of them. True repentance is the key, because afterward you will always try to keep from doing the same thing again.

These are the things that any loving parent would do. What kind of parent would allow their children to go through life without any consequences for their bad behavior? We will all have ample time to restore our relationship with God. Those who go to hell are the ones who purposely decide to turn away from God.

86 posted on 05/29/2002 9:47:33 AM PDT by Come get it
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To: RS
No matter how much "free will" you think you have, your seat is already reserved for you and there is no action that you can take that can change your ticket.

Do you have a basis, Biblical or other, for that belief?

87 posted on 05/29/2002 9:49:24 AM PDT by Come get it
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To: RS
Interesting - God as the original, ultimate, purposefull source of all the evil in the world.

Evil is not something that can originate with God. God allowed it into His creation for a purpose, but He did not create it. Lucifer created it when he exercised his free will to turn away from God. God knew that would happen, but He did not do it.

88 posted on 05/29/2002 9:54:59 AM PDT by Come get it
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To: stuartcr
How do you know why or how God made someone, because the bible said so?

To answer bluntly: yes, that's how I know.

There are millions of people that believe in God as much as you, but do not follow the bible.

Those millions of people who "believe" in God and don't read the Bible either don't believe in God and just say they do, or they are lacking in common sense. If one believes in God, wouldn't it be a good idea to read the Book He left for us? If one believes in God, shouldn't we try to find out what He wants us to do? Just a thought.

Just because something was written by a human being doesn't mean it's true, especially when dealing with God, who has reign over all.

You are right that because something is written by a human it is not necessarily true. Yes, the Bible was written by humans, but the things they wrote were not their own ideas. Their writing was inspired by God. The New Testament contains the gospels, which is basically a first-hand account of the teachings of Jesus from the people that saw what He did. Much of the Bible is stories of the things that people have seen God do in their lives.

Written by men, yes. True, YES! Why true, you ask? Here's why the Bible can be verified as true. The Bible claims to be the infallible Word of God and has been tested as such by many theologians and historians over the last 2000 years. If it were untrue, they would have figured that out LONG AGO. Even today, archeological finds are proving that events described in the Bible are historically accurate and true.

As a student of the sciences, I am taught to test hypotheses for validity. If a hypothesis stands up to the tests, it can be said to be true. The Bible has stood up to 2000 years of tests. That's good enough for me.

On top of all that is my own personal testimony of the things I've seen in my life that are truly miracles. Just the fact that I am here and able to type these responses to you is due to God acting in my life through the Bible. If I only had the time to tell it all...

89 posted on 05/29/2002 10:21:59 AM PDT by Come get it
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To: Come get it
That would be true if everyone believed that God left the bible for us, but not everyone believes that because not everyone is a Christian. I believe all things written by man are a result of God giving us that ability. The bible is as valid as any history book. As far as the scientific stuff, I have trouble with people being swallowed by large marine animals and talking animals.
90 posted on 05/29/2002 10:46:31 AM PDT by stuartcr
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To: RWBaral
You've got that right! Preach it!
91 posted on 05/29/2002 1:31:50 PM PDT by Marysecretary
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To: Daniel_in_Babylon
Ooh, Daniel, good point. God IS in control. People don't like that thought because we think WE are in control. NOT. God's a dictator as well. When we do things HIS way, we succeed. When we go our own way--nothing but trouble. Love, M
92 posted on 05/29/2002 1:40:25 PM PDT by Marysecretary
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To: sixtycyclehum
YES. The billions of dollars spent to prevent most AIDS cases has been a useless waste. Your words hit home. Stop AIDS by stopping the behaviours that cause HIV. IT is that simple.
93 posted on 05/29/2002 2:51:35 PM PDT by RWBaral
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To: Marysecretary
BUMP!!!
94 posted on 05/29/2002 2:54:59 PM PDT by billbears
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To: Glutton
You say a bully who picked on you in school called you "faggot?" Say, maybe the problem with your view on poofters is that you ARE a faggot.
95 posted on 05/29/2002 2:57:28 PM PDT by RWBaral
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To: Come get it
ME-No matter how much "free will" you think you have, your seat is already reserved for you and there is no action that you can take that can change your ticket.

YOU-Do you have a basis, Biblical or other, for that belief?


No problem - unless you believe that God is NOT all-knowing...
God has 1005 certain knowledge of the future, therefore every action you take, regadless of your belief in free will, is simply fullfilling the destiny that God knew you would have before you were born.
If you somehow could change the outcome, God's fore-knowledge was in error.
96 posted on 05/29/2002 4:05:06 PM PDT by RS
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To: RWBaral
Speak for yourself. I was a high school senior in a new city and school. What happened to me happens all the time.

I guesss the biggest difference between 2002 and 1972 is if you said your post to my face, you would have to deal with a very stocky and fit former paratrooper and woodsworker; and the pea brain who tried to get my goat faced a skinny kid who took track and field and was still trying to get his side burns to meet to form a beard.

So, what's your point? Flaming is childish and boring, and you don't have the guts to say your comment to my hazel blues.

Pathetic.

97 posted on 05/29/2002 4:14:19 PM PDT by Glutton
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To: Come get it
"Evil is not something that can originate with God. God allowed it into His creation for a purpose, but He did not create it. Lucifer created it when he exercised his free will to turn away from God. God knew that would happen, but He did not do it. "

Even more interesting - God created Lucifer, who he knew would become Satan, so Satan could create evil, because God -
A. Did not have the power to create evil himself
B. Needed a "straw man" to do the dirty deed for him
C. Wanted "plausable deniability" ( how Clintonesque of Him )

... " I didn't kill him... The gun I bought, loaded, pointed and pulled the trigger on killed him ! ...
( the gun ) ... Don't look at me ! the bullet killed him ! - I just expelled it from my presence !
98 posted on 05/29/2002 4:21:02 PM PDT by RS
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To: Come get it
"He is a very loving and forgiving God; all you need to do is repent of your sins, accept Jesus' death as payment for them, and ask for forgiveness. "

Also interesting - Jesus death as a partial payment... or If his death was payment in full, then what are repentance and asking for forgiveness... a tip ?

99 posted on 05/29/2002 4:32:46 PM PDT by RS
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To: RS
If you somehow could change the outcome, God's fore-knowledge was in error.

I see the point you are making, and you are correct in a sense. You are correct that God knows exactly what will happen in our lives. Looking from God's point of view, you are right. However, we as humans cannot look at things from God's point of view, so we must look at them from our own. From our point of view, we cannot see the future, so we do not know what is in store for us. We make our decisions based on the free will that He gave us. He knows what we will choose and what the consequences are, but we don't. Therefore, looking from our point of view (which is the only one we have), we have the free will to make decisions that affect our lives.

I think your idea of predestination is that we follow a script that we cannot escape. Maybe so, but since we don't know what it is, from our POV we have free will. For example, you can choose to shoot yourself today and die, or you can choose not to. Since you don't know which one you are predestined to do, you have a choice. God knows which one you will pick, but you have the free will to choose.

100 posted on 05/29/2002 4:44:51 PM PDT by Come get it
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