Posted on 05/20/2002 9:22:39 PM PDT by Timesink
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HISTORIAN ON THE HOT SEAT Could Bellesiles's Problems Undermine Gun Control? Mr. Williams lives near the Valley Forge Encampment and has a Masters in Computer Science. He frequently posts comments on H-OIEAHC.
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If the Supreme Court hears US vs Emerson, the Justices will review In March 1999, Federal Judge Sam Cummings dismissed gun possession Two organizations who have filed Amicus Curiae briefs in US vs Emerson, In 1999, Northwestern historian Garry Wills released the book A Not quite a virginal debutantes introduction to society but close. In October 1999, three historians--Michael Bellesiles, Saul Cornell, The prosecution was supported by the Amicus filed by the Ad Hoc Group In February 2000, Handgun Controls Center to Prevent Handgun Violence In April 2000, the Joyce Foundation, a gun-control advocacy group, The Symposiums presentations were published in the Chicago-Kent Law Several of the Chicago-Kent Law Review articles were cited in the Hence, if Michael Bellesiless work is discredited, it may cast a cloud By contrast, a review of briefs supporting Emerson shows no similar US vs Emerson is a major constitutional, legal, and public policy issue Why has the federally-subsidized historical community been so reluctant Within the historical community, the bulk of the research showing
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The short version is that Bellesiles is lying, and that his so-called book is 100% fiction, deliberately written to damage the indiviual ownership meaning of the 2nd Amendment.
Perhaps some Freeper legal-eagle can make a determination that there is a specific person who can be encouraged to officially bring this information to the attention of the Supreme Court. I don't think that it is necessary that the investigations of Bellesile be concluded. The credible allegations ought to be enough to require that the record be set straight.
That's what surprised me- my first reaction to the headline was "what in Sam Hill does one thing have to do with the other" but like you, I was amazed the "other side" put so much reliance on that one, almost certainly fraudulent, book...
It does seem appropriate that an oppponent of our Constitutional rights be named "Bogus", doesn't it?
A Faulty Rethinking of the 2nd Amendment
This Rakove is also a Bellisles adherent:
http://www.historycooperative.org/journals/wm/59.1/rakove.html
"...By focusing on behavior--the ownership of firearms, their use in daily life, and perhaps most important in this context, the function and operations of the militia--Bellesiles casts the constitutional debate in a new light. What difference would it make to our understanding of the Second Amendment if we found that ownership was far less widespread than previously assumed, that firearms had little value for either self-protection or the slaughter of succulent mammals, and that the militia was typically a moribund joke in time of peace and of little military value in time of war?"
"...However hallowed a place the image of a citizens' militia occupied in American political ideology, Bellesiles argues, prosaic reality never corroborated normative expectations. In peace, the militia quickly atrophied (if it had any vigor at all); in war, its shortcomings became embarrassingly evident."
I beleive that a literal ruling will result in a drastic reduction in the 20,000+ gun laws in the US. I also think that a literal ruling would allow a criminal who has already completed the time / parole to obtain a firearm. I also feel that it could call into question the '34 laws against machine guns.
As a person who has spent years training military and police personnel, I'm not sure that I am comfortable with such ramifications. However, I realize that given the choice between my comfort and the rights of others, I will side with rights each and every time.
As for the machine gun issue, a friend put it well. A person in power in the government can send others out with a machine gun and does not themselves risk life or limb. I private citizen, armed with the same weapon, has only thier own resouces not the mass of thousands of troops. Further, that one citizen would risk their own life and limb and would thus be more fearful in it's use.
I tell the folks I train that the only reason to ever resort to deadly force (firearms, knife, etc.) is when death is prefered over the results or actions being force upon you.
It is only when you are prepared to die for your cause that you have the moral standing to take another's life. The cause may be the prevention of attack or rape or murder or the loss of freedoms. But the moral "right" of defence should be measured by that person's willingness to die.
Just my .02
I'd love to see it happen.
A little factoid I like to annoy the antis with is the simple fact that when my Dad was growing up ( born 1890 ) even a kid could walk into any hardware store and purchase any weapon- even a belt-fed heavy machine gun ( say the old Colt M1895 potato digger... ) like a sack of nails. And citizens were undoubtedly more civil and safer back then.
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