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To: week 71
e. In his fifth paragraph, he says there are some 5000 Christians in Israel who are converts from Judaism. Surely that is vastly understated: maybe that is the membership of the Action Committee he mentions. My information is that there are about 40,000 Messianic Jews in Israel, not all openly engaging in public worship as such, and another 20,000 ethnic Jews who are (often discreetly) members of existing and established denominations as Baptists, Presbyterians, Methodists, etc. and even a few in Catholic and Orthodox churches there...

f. While he says these people, whatever their number, "worship THEIR god," he fails to say that is YHWH, Ha-Shem, the same god as Israel has. As to whether they proselytize, I am sure some do quite actively, but most don't, and that is their own individual activity. Nobody out here somewhere is paying them to do it!

8 posted on 05/20/2002 4:18:14 PM PDT by crystalk
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To: crystalk
As to whether they proselytize, I am sure some do quite actively, but most don't, and that is their own individual activity. Nobody out here somewhere is paying them to do it!

These people have a highly strategic plan, are well financed by mainstream Christian groups and have a single goal, to remove Jews from following the faith of their ancestors.

The above from the article rubs me the wrong way. It is how one would talk about a malicious organization. Yeshua Ha Meshiach (sp) is the God of their ancestors. One is certainly no less Jewish by Believing in Jesus!

9 posted on 05/20/2002 4:27:51 PM PDT by week 71
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g. He says in his p.6 that the MJ's (and thus by implic Christians).."worship Jesus"... a troubling formulation a Christian would never use...We worship God, one God, and Jesus only as and to the extent that he was an avatar or apparition of that God...a revelation of Him...Just as the Holy Spirit is an aspect or "side" or "part" from our limited human perspective, of God...he has revealed himself to man in those three ways, and still does so, in each of the three, every day, but it is not a Trinity of gods, but a trinity of manifestations, of one God to man. Or so I understand it, please disregard unfamiliar vocabulary...

h. He says there are unqualified, and perhaps even non-Jewish, persons who are claiming to be able to convert persons TO Judaism, or even make them rabbis (give out "shlita" credentials certifying them as rabbis??) I had not heard of this, if this is happening it is an ordinary common-law fraud and ought to be stopped.

10 posted on 05/20/2002 4:28:53 PM PDT by crystalk
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There are also a few hundred thousand Christian immigrants from the former Soviet Union. The Jews need to realize that they are at war with a billion Muslims who hate them and they better accept Christians as their allies; many have, I've known them personally when I was in Israel; but unfortunately, many still do not.
56 posted on 05/20/2002 10:30:13 PM PDT by Michael2001
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