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g. He says in his p.6 that the MJ's (and thus by implic Christians).."worship Jesus"... a troubling formulation a Christian would never use...We worship God, one God, and Jesus only as and to the extent that he was an avatar or apparition of that God...a revelation of Him...Just as the Holy Spirit is an aspect or "side" or "part" from our limited human perspective, of God...he has revealed himself to man in those three ways, and still does so, in each of the three, every day, but it is not a Trinity of gods, but a trinity of manifestations, of one God to man. Or so I understand it, please disregard unfamiliar vocabulary...

h. He says there are unqualified, and perhaps even non-Jewish, persons who are claiming to be able to convert persons TO Judaism, or even make them rabbis (give out "shlita" credentials certifying them as rabbis??) I had not heard of this, if this is happening it is an ordinary common-law fraud and ought to be stopped.

10 posted on 05/20/2002 4:28:53 PM PDT by crystalk
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i. He says in his p.5 that Christians are serving in the IDF and that they are there "witnessing" to their buddies in uniform about their faith.

I have heard of this, and even met guys who had done or were doing this, but this is the first time I ever heard there was anything sneaky or dishonest about it.

As I understand it, a qualified military man, or sometimes just a healthy volunteer of approp age and type, is perfectly free to enlist in the IDF regardless of his being a Christian or of no faith, or a Druze or maybe even a Muslim!!! This is news to me, I do not think one has EVER had to be a Jew halakhically, or even be a part-Jew, or a non-Christian, to quite openly serve in the IDF...and yes, I understand that might lead to one's being able to become an Israeli citizen, I suppose, if Israel laws were like those of many other countries, but why is this so horrid and wrong?

I would think anyone who would do that would be welcomed with open arms, how better could one demonstrate one's affinity with that country, more affinity than many a Jew in the USA would have...

12 posted on 05/20/2002 4:37:32 PM PDT by crystalk
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g. He says in his p.6 that the MJ's (and thus by implic Christians).."worship Jesus"... a troubling formulation a Christian would never use...We worship God, one God, and Jesus only as and to the extent that he was an avatar or apparition of that God...a revelation of Him...Just as the Holy Spirit is an aspect or "side" or "part" from our limited human perspective, of God...he has revealed himself to man in those three ways, and still does so, in each of the three, every day, but it is not a Trinity of gods, but a trinity of manifestations, of one God to man. Or so I understand it, please disregard unfamiliar vocabulary...

Sounds like you are a Jehovah's Witness, or a Unitarian, or maybe even a "oneness" Pentecostal. I am a Baptist and a trinitarian as all Baptists and Protestants originally were, what are you?

22 posted on 05/20/2002 5:04:07 PM PDT by razorbak
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