Posted on 05/20/2002 4:00:34 PM PDT by Shermy
It appears that 3 and maybe 4 Jihaders in America may be heading down the lonely road to justice.
Here's an example of massive fraud in New Jersey:
Here's an article from May 18:
Illegal) Immigrant license law lacks support
Legislation allowing illegal immigrants to obtain a one-year Tennessee driver's license, instead of the full-term license they have been able to get for the past year, is in trouble in the House and may be dead for this legislative session.
The bill had been scheduled for a House vote Wednesday, but its sponsor, Rep. Mark Maddox, postponed action for a week. Maddox said in an interview yesterday that he did so because he did not think it had sufficient votes to pass, even though it earlier cleared the Senate in a 31-0 vote.
Maddox's legislation provides that an applicant who does not have a Social Security number or who cannot provide acceptable Immigration and Naturalization Service documentation can receive the special one-year license. A regular driver's license is good for five years.
The one-year license would be stamped with the words ''For driving purposes only.''
The bill was seen as a compromise between those who want to deny any driving privileges to unauthorized immigrants and those who say immigrants are going to drive anyway so they need to know the rules of the road and have the opportunity to purchase insurance.
A state law that took effect May 3, 2001, allowed people without Social Security cards to obtain licenses. The change prompted immigrants legal and illegal, many of them Hispanic to flock to testing stations to apply, resulting in long lines and short tempers.
The situation improved in June when the state Safety Department hired 43 bilingual examiners and took other steps to speed the process. But some lawmakers want to reinstate the Social Security card requirement and otherwise tighten restrictions on who can receive a license.
Some of those opposing Maddox's bill are ''people who want us to close the borders and make sure everybody is free, white and 21 before they come to the states,'' he said. Maddox, D-Dresden, said he and others were working on amendments to try to save the legislation.
''The prevailing mood in the House was last year we were told the bill that passed would not give illegal immigrants the ability to get a driver's license,'' Maddox said. ''In fact, that was not the case.
''My colleagues feel like this bill may be clearer in that regard in that it most definitely will give illegal immigrants an opportunity to obtain a driver's license. The majority of them do not feel this is what we should do.''
Rep. Donna Rowland, R-Murfreesboro, said the Maddox bill was a step in the right direction but did not go far enough.
''We have had plenty of time and ample opportunity and especially in light of all the national incidents that have happened in the last year that we should address this issue in its entirety,'' said Rowland, who has campaigned for stricter controls on driver's licenses for immigrants.
Backers of the legislation say illegal immigrants will drive with or without licenses, so they need to know the rules of the road. {Note - this is the standard big trucking lobbyist line. It's untrue. The illegals can have International Licenses that permit them to drive. But showing this license is not enough to get transporation work.)
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JDGreen123
How about getting your talk show friend to talk about this. I mean, is there any question what to do? No illegals.
I assume they're wrong, and now that they're tucked away for a few years, there will be ample time to find the answers to all of these questions.
Interestingly, the burned body of a man 40 years old was found earlier this month in Wethersfield, Connecticut, home of the central office of the CT DMV. As of May 3, 2002, this story came out:
Police identify burning body found near Wethersfield (Connecticut) Dumpster
Hurley was a part time employee at Steve's Price Cutter Liquors. He worked at the state Department of Information Technology.Separately--from the Connecticut State Department of Motor Vehicles web site:The body was burned beyond recognition but police suspected it was Hurley, whose car was still in the strip mall's parking lot.
Manufacturer's License
Initial Issue a license to a manufacturer or distributor of motor vehicles who sells products in Connecticut. Note: Only done in Wethersfield DMV office.Renewal - Re-issue a license to a manufacturer or distributor of motor vehicles who sells products in Connecticut. Note: Only done in Wethersfield DMV office.
Duplicate - Make a copy or duplicate of a license to a manufacturer or distributor of motor vehicles who sells products in Connecticut. Note: Only done in Wethersfield DMV office.
Modification - Make a change or modification of a license of a manufacturer or distributor of motor vehicles who sells products in Connecticut. Note: Only done in Wethersfield DMV office.
These guys will not see 6 months if that behind bars. Take that and a Memphis {Liberal} trial and they won't see much. The prosicutors as well need to be fired for recommending the lowest possible sentence. The very fact this occured just shows the rest of the nation that a stupid bunch of hicks are running the Tennessee Leglislature for a law to allow illegals to drive in the first place. This is the most corrupt times in Tennessee government since Ray Blanton.
Without a doubt! Sounds like a bunch of bad guys. I am sure the Feds are on it. At least I hope so. If I lived in that area and knew any of these people, I would be concerned.
I did find a very interesting bit of news in this article though that confirms my original suspicions. This has details (but doesn't draw deliberate attention to them) that the men were not just seeking a license for driving the company van around. Follow:
When Sakher A. Hammad was arrested, he had in his possession a visitor's identification card that gave him access to the building just a few days before the terrorist attacks.Hammad, a plumber, told federal authorities he was working on the sprinklers, according to court testimony.
DiScenza dropped government objections to a release on bond after Hammad's father, Peter Hansen, put up his Staten Island home as security for a $250,000 bond.
Hansen, a senior engineer for the City of New York, testified at the March hearing that his son was "born again" when he came legally to the U.S. from Jordan.
"America is our country," Hansen said as his son wept. "We are a very dedicated family. We love work . . . We would never think to do harm to anyone."
But DiScenza urged the judge not to grant bond to the others.
When Donald upheld detention without bond for the other four, she called them flight risks because of their immigration status or substantial connections through family to other countries, where they might flee if released.
She noted that Odtllah, the alleged leader of the fraud scheme, has a wife and family in Jerusalem.
But the judge said in her ruling there was no evidence to support "these potentially inflammatory assertions" about connections to Sept. 11.
Here's how prosecutors allege the scheme worked:
Odtllah, who has been living in Cordova for two years, offered Tennessee driver's licenses to illegal immigrants for a fee of around $1,000 each. The Hammads, both self-employed plumbers in Brooklyn, acted as middlemen, finding the clients and bringing them to Memphis, where Smith would issue them licenses.
In early February, the Hammads allegedly drove co-defendants Fares and Abou-Shahin and a juvenile to Memphis from New York City to get four driver's licenses - one in Fares's name and three in names that prosecutors have said appear to be aliases.
[snip].
Sakher Hammad was also in town to get a second Tennessee driver's license. He and his cousin already had Tennessee licenses using the same Morning Lake Drive address of the apartment complex where Odtllah lived.
The plumber's defense has been that he needed a license to work. I'd think that the company would want a local license if the employee is to be trusted with the company van. The plumber also already had a license and was pocketing another (identity).
The family seems to be pretty well off ($250,000 home). So why didn't he just apply for citizenship if this is his "home"?
It's a big scam to give jobs to illegals, and taking them away from Americans. Because it's profitable.
Self-employed? And working in the WTC? Very suspicious.
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