Posted on 05/20/2002 9:54:04 AM PDT by Sir Gawain
Incorrect as a point of fact. Correct in so much as it is your opinion.
Government-run schools are a bad idea.
Correct
You got it half right.
They lied
Some kids react better to the threat of a paddle. I know we sure did. We all wore safety glasses in shop, even the kids who didn't care if they passed because the penalty was a lick in front of the whole class. And Coach Page used to play for the Dolphins.
Please explain the "liberal" reference and after that please elighten me about what he correct about. (other than the half I already pointed out)
They were as wrong as the others who told us that corporal punishment would solve the same problems.
You should have the right to send your children to schools where physical punishment is allowed. And I should have the same right to send my children to a school where my children are not touched physically, except by me. Since government schools are mandatory for those who do not have the resources to educate them privately it is a good thing that government employees are not given the right to touch children for purposes of "punishment".
If you send your child to a government school, you must live within the bounds of the school. If your child is disruptive, they will be punished in a manner decided by the school. If you don't like the method, you can remove your child.
Your child will be hit in school. That is guaranteed. The question is whether the attacker will be sufficiently deterred from hitting your child again. If you want to remove the consequences, that is your business. But your child will live with that deterrence. I would rather my son get paddled in school than beaten by his classmates. I have children in a public elementary school and their biggest complaint is lack of discipline by wimpy administrators.
That is precisely why government schools should be abolished. Particularly because the is no choice to opt out for some people. The attendance is mandatory even for people who do not have the resources to opt out.
If your child is disruptive, they will be punished in a manner decided by the school.
I don't know what state you live in but In Illinois, corporal punishment is forbidden and it has been since I was in elementary school in the 50s, probably before then. Rightfully so.
If you don't like the method, you can remove your child.
I thought I made it clear that we were talking about people without an option like that.
Your child will be hit in school. That is guaranteed. The question is whether the attacker will be sufficiently deterred from hitting your child again.
None of my three children has ever been hit in school. And they won't be because their primary education is now ended.
If you want to remove the consequences, that is your business. But your child will live with that deterrence.
See above comment.
I would rather my son get paddled in school than beaten by his classmates. I have children in a public elementary school and their biggest complaint is lack of discipline by wimpy administrators.
It's OK with me if you choose to have government employees physically touch your children, I do not choose that. I assume my own responsibilites, I do not cede them to anyone, certainly not government employees.
Your children were hit in school. You just don't know it. There is no way your kids went through 12 years of school and never got hit by anyone. That's ludicrous.
Thankfully those aren't the only two choices. PS....if I was forced to choose, which I am not, I would never opt to allow anyone to physically touch my children.
Your children were hit in school.
False
You just don't know it.
False
There is no way your kids went through 12 years of school and never got hit by anyone.
False
That's ludicrous.
If you have substantial funds to wager, I will accomodate you.
Funny, I was just thinking that about your comments.
You don't believe in government schools BUT you believe in making rules for them.
False. I merely recognise that they exist. Laws against anyone physically touching my children, except in self defense apply to all walks of life, not only schools. Laws permitting the suspension of my childrens rights (and mine as parent) have been passed by thugs many times though as exceptions to the natural rights which exist.
If you make rules for them, you obviously believe in them.
As I pointed out, I make no rules for them, I merely acknowledge that others have made exceptions on occasion to suspend the rights.
Rules haven't been made to support the right to not be physically accosted, they have been made to permit it as an exception. Those rules are an abomination.
Every important detail, such as assault, has been reported.
You need another mirror, Alice.
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