Just ask that runt, Wolverine.
Posted on 05/17/2002 6:08:18 AM PDT by knighthawk
There appeared a thread yesterday:
It said that Pim Fortuyn was 'a powerful advocate or paedophilia'. The article in the Scotsman is based on an 1999 column of Pim Fortuyn.
The article there leaves out the things that make one understand what he is saying.
1. If it was true this was such a vile column, Elsevier would have never allowed it to be printed
2. If it was true this was such a vile column, the media an left parties would have brought it to the attention of people months ago. And by doing so stopping Fortuyn cold in his tracks before he could break down the left
3. If it was true this was such a vile column, and he is a sexual pervert, then way did nobody claimed the 2250 dollar reward a leftist organization awarded the first man that could bring out information about Fortuyn's sexual past that would descredit him. Not ONE single person managed to come up with anything.
I a furious, not about the article, but they way it was presented and pinged around.
This is exactly what led to the death of Pim Fortuyn in the first place, the demonization of the media and politicians, who lied and published selected half-true things, leaving out the rest.
He was murdered by a man who thought that shooting so was a good thing to do.
We are fighting because others have fought for us, for our rights, for our freedom. We must fight this evil so it can no longer harm anyone again. Also we must keep on fighing to make others free (remember the Battle Hymne of the Republic: "as he died to make men holy, let us die to make man free").Some people believe that we are giving in. Never I say! When George Washington faced a much larger British amry, did they choose not to fight for their (and our) freedom? Did the men who defended the Alamo give in? No, even when they knew they would all be killed and the Mexicans offered them safe passage, they choose to fight. They died so that others could be free, they gave their lives so others wouldn't die. When the Japanse army made their strike at Pearl Harbor, did we give in? Or when the US Amny landed at the beaches in Normandy and things went really bad? No! They fought on to victory!
It can be very irritating when one sees blantant lies on the screen. It can be even more irritating when one sees Free Republic posters promulgating the lying propaganda. To me the best response to these libels is to stay in the fray and let people know the truth. The uncollected reward you mentioned is very significant. It lets people know that a calumny has been spread against Pim Fortuyn.(sp?) This forum is in the USA. Many of us do nit follow politics in every nation on the surface of the planet and even those of us who do follow many foreign political situations need to focus our attentions on a few nations.
Obviously you are offened and I will presume quite rightly so but remember that this is a free for all exchange of ideas where hopefully the truth will become evident to those who read threads here.
All of us have endured insults from ignorant posters. All of us who have been at Free Republic for several years have had disagreements with other posters. Much of what you have posted has provided many of us with insights into what is happening in Europe that we might not otherwise have gotten. This insight has proven quite useful in determining the nature of world events.
I do not know your final decision about leaving. I guess that if you do leave then I shall have to look to others for insights into the internal structure of politics inside the Nethelands.
My usual reaction to posters who publish statements that they are leaving Free Republic is to say something equivalent to "Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out." I think my comments here are partly a result of your giving an inside view into Dutch politics and my view that perhaps you have not been at Free Republic long enough to realize that just about anyone or an idea you view as important will be attacked by someone.
Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown
If you think these people are annoying, try dealing with the numbskulls the owner of Freerepublic has to deal with...
You brought to us the information that the Euro-socialist-greenies-animal rights wackos are killers.
People who applaud the killing of Fortyn want you to shut up. If you leave, they win. Please reconsider.
"When danger reared it ugly head, he bravely turned his tail and fled, Brave, Brave Sir Robin"
De rechtsfilosoof en pedofiel Brongersma, jarenlang senator voor de PvdA, heeft zijn leven lang gestreden voor begrip voor de pedofiele medemens. Hij begon daar onverschrokken aan na het uitzitten van een gevangenisstraf voor ongewenste intimiteiten met een minderjarige. De desbetreffende minderjarige had het helemaal niet ongewenst gevonden, maar justitie oordeelde in de jaren vijftig anders.In de jaren zestig en zeventig kreeg Brongersma langzaam maar zeker voet aan de grond. Na de uitvinding van de pil was er de bevrijding van de seks. Homoseks werd geaccepteerd, en waarom zou dan - onder de strikte voorwaarde dat het kind het wil en dat het niet wordt gedwongen - pedoseks niet zijn toegestaan? Dit verlichte standpunt is inmiddels verlaten en onder invloed van de gogen is het kind neergezet als geheel en al vrij van seksuele lusten, in elk geval tegenover volwassenen.
We zijn ver verwijderd van het begrip dat Brongersma trachtte te kweken, overigens tot schade van onszelf, want alles wat bespreekbaar is, is in beginsel ook beheersbaar, moet u maar denken!
Mischien denk je dat dit niet te bespreken is. Maar hier op FR mag zoiets juist wel onder discussie komen. En zonder kogels. Als je daar niet tegen kan, hoeven we je hier niet.
As for your Opus, I rate it a 1. You did not attack Jim Robinson, and you do not appear to be drunk. Plus, you only referred to one other post. A good opus would refer to threads that angered you from three years ago, and complain that not enough freepers defended you on it.
Please stay, at least for enough time so that you can prepare a decent Opus.
Someone around here has links to all the classic Opii, and will hopefully post them for your guidance.
Owl_Eagle
”Guns Before Butter.”
For all you know your words may have changed the minds or mind of someone in which case you are invaluable to the cause of truth. Leaving because a few people dont see it makes no sense.
Just ask that runt, Wolverine.
Secondly... yes, some people did say some bad things about Homosexuals. So what, as a Conservative in MAss, I am hated far more and called a lot worse then anything that some said about Homosexuals on the thread.
Thirdly, all I did was post some insane essay about the difference between European and American Politics.
As for Knighthawk, good bye and thinks for the poem. Perhaps I have thick skin but I cant see what was THAT bad about the thread(Which I contributed very little to becuase I was pinged).
Leaving allows your enemy to claim victory. Ask yourself who would want you to stop spreading vital information? Do you want Islame to win?
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