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Freedom Fighters-FR mentioned in Liberal paper
badger herald ^ | 05/09/02 | Kate McDonald

Posted on 05/09/2002 11:21:02 AM PDT by ElRushbo

Freedom fighters

by Kate MacDonald, Staff Writer May 09, 2002

One of the most influential and monumental First Amendment battles of this new millennium is being fought in the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals. The unhappy marriage of print media and the Internet has finally reached an impasse. Free Republic bills itself as a "loosely organized group of grassroots Americans who support the constitution and look for honesty, integrity and honor from those in government." Nice PR. Really, this staunchly conservative activist group's popularity and fondness for a good battle have turned quite a few heads on Capitol Hill. Active members, who call themselves FReepers, include Dr. Alan Keyes, Gary Aldrich, Sean Hannity, Ann Coulter, Congressman Bob Barr and Matt Drudge. In its fifth year, the Free Republic has grown to over 60,000 members with chapters all over the country. The crux of their movement is Freerepublic.com, a massive forum-driven website where the pseudo-militant grassroots conservatives can convene to pontificate at the virtual podium on the devious workings of government and media.

There is no noise on the Internet, but these ranters are screaming loudly enough to garner the reproach of more than easily offended liberals. The FReepers frequently use examples from current media to facilitate their arguments. Their practice of posting entire articles lifted from news sources all over the country has infuriated commercial media.

Crying theft, unfair competition and intellectual property rights, The Washington Post and The Los Angeles Times have filed suit against Free Republic.

What a delicious irony, that a group of enlightened and loquacious defenders of constitutional privilege are now entangled in this trenchant imbroglio calling into question the very principles their movement was founded upon.

The Free Republic calls their media adversaries "elements of the socialist propaganda machine" and claims that the practice of posting articles is tantamount to "gathering in our virtual town hall where we virtually pass around newspaper clippings."

The newspapers claim their copyrighted material is produced at great expense to them. They post these materials online, and the ad revenue from their websites is necessary to sustain their operation.

As both sides are armed with strong and persuasive rhetoric, the issue is exacerbated by the fact that Free Republic is a nonprofit movement. All of its funding comes from private donations. Therefore, there is soundness in the Freepers' assertion that they are not stealing the articles for commercial gain but rather passing them around to educate and illuminate each other on issues of immediate relevancy.

The district judge disagreed and ruled erroneously in favor of the Post and the Times, saying that Free Republic is a commercial enterprise. Free Republic is appealing to the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals and will likely have its arguments heard in September. In the meantime, the group is barred from allowing its members to post full-text articles from The Washington Post and The Los Angeles Times.

The FReepers are calling this legal fight no less than a "life-and-death struggle." In fact, this description is the truth. If this battle falls in favor of the commercial media, the Free Republic will die. With its principled dedication to the First Amendment called into question, the group is being forced to defend it absolutely. If it fails, then the fundamental foundation of the group's movement will have been destroyed. No structure can stand without a foundation.

The fight that Free Republic is embroiled in is broader and farther-reaching than just the relatively small group of people involved. The U.S. Constitution is the foundation upon which our democracy is built. Its first and foremost amendment is being challenged in the name of monetary gain.

The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals must recognize that to rule in favor of the commercial media in this case will weaken and debase the words supporting this country. Chipping away at the foundation doesn't bode well for any American: conservative, liberal, or purveyor of socialist propaganda.

Kate MacDonald (kmacdonald


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Free Republic; News/Current Events
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To: Victoria Delsoul
Thank you. I found that yesterday here on FR
and "borrowed" it from another FReeper..........
101 posted on 05/10/2002 11:02:56 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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To: PeaceBeWithYou;teeman8r;tall4myage;wirestripper;Budge;travelgirl;parsifal;DCBryan1;TheBattman...
Thought you'd want to check this out.
102 posted on 05/10/2002 11:05:52 AM PDT by sweetliberty
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To: Fred Mertz
"We'll have to take it to the Supremes won't we?"

Wouldn't that ultimately be a good thing....assuming that they uphold the Constitution and put the liberals in their place? Wouldn't that put it to rest and set a precedent that would actually give conservatives some breathing room in this country again?

103 posted on 05/10/2002 11:11:01 AM PDT by sweetliberty
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To: ElRushbo
Thanks for posting the article.
104 posted on 05/10/2002 11:11:21 AM PDT by heleny
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To: Constitution Day
What a coincidence, I majored in Ranch and Poppy Seed. She and I might have something to talk about. Ya think I should spend some time with her, in, ummm, the advancement of conservatism?
105 posted on 05/10/2002 11:14:21 AM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: EternalVigilance
South Dakota? Are you actually Tom Daschle lurking?!
106 posted on 05/10/2002 11:15:49 AM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Diddle E. Squat
What a coincidence, I majored in Ranch and Poppy Seed. She and I might have something to talk about. Ya think I should spend some time with her, in, ummm, the advancement of conservatism?

LOL.

Now go out there and "win one for the Gipper!"

107 posted on 05/10/2002 11:18:40 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: Constitution Day
Viva la Bleu CHEESE!
108 posted on 05/10/2002 11:21:18 AM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: ElRushbo
What a delicious irony, that a group of enlightened and loquacious defenders of constitutional privilege are now entangled in this trenchant imbroglio calling into question the very principles their movement was founded upon.

Must've taken her a few days to come up with this sentence.....

PS - FR will never die.

109 posted on 05/10/2002 11:55:28 AM PDT by b4its2late
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To: MeeknMing;bobthenailer;cake_crumb
THANK YOU. FV ON LIST PLEEEEEZ. However, who is calling us Freedom Fighters? That is what the Palestinians call themselves. I do not like that tag. WE ARE FREEDOM LOVERS NOT FREEDOM FIGHTERS imo.

OUR LOVE OF FREEDOM has us sharing information and ideas and no one does it better, including the mainscream media and, the liberal papers will never "get it". LIB fighter, of course - every day. FV

110 posted on 05/10/2002 11:58:36 AM PDT by floriduh voter
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To: Jim Robinson
As both sides are armed with strong and persuasive rhetoric, the issue is exacerbated by the fact that Free Republic is a nonprofit movement. All of its funding comes from private donations. Therefore, there is soundness in the Freepers' assertion that they are not stealing the articles for commercial gain but rather passing them around to educate and illuminate each other on issues of immediate relevancy.

Which reminds me, I'm going to send you a donation in the next couple of days.....

111 posted on 05/10/2002 11:59:05 AM PDT by b4its2late
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To: ElRushbo
bttt
112 posted on 05/10/2002 11:59:50 AM PDT by lodwick
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To: MeeknMing
bump!
113 posted on 05/10/2002 12:01:53 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: b4its2late;mafree
Free Republic will never die. And she was a little low on the membership count. I believe the count is up to 90K or 100K and WE AREN'T LEAVIN! We are getting stronger and staying on message. Freep on! AND LET'S GET SOME MORE CONSERVATIVES ELECTED THIS FALL!
114 posted on 05/10/2002 12:04:02 PM PDT by floriduh voter
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To: Congressman Billybob
Edwards is a Podium Pounding Pretty Boy.

And his ambulance chasing trial lawyer background is a negative imo.

115 posted on 05/10/2002 12:13:18 PM PDT by floriduh voter
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To: callisto
You don't think that if FR loses that the case wouldn't be used a precedent and applied in multiple ways thereafter to other first amendment cases? If FR should lose, God forbid, but I believe every newspaper that publishes on line will be seeking the same monetary damages from every other website that has used their material.

Re: the possible precedent, I will defer to the legal experts on that. I think it would, though.

My point is:
I honestly believe that FR has set in motion a conservative online "revolution", for lack of a better term.
I think that there is a better than even chance that FR could... perish the thought... be forced to shut down.

They may cut off FR but, like the Hydra, two more sites like it will pop up in its place.
The media is running scared because they know that more and more people are aware of their bias.
This suit is nothing more than an attempt to stifle conservative views.

In short, the LAT & WP can stifle FR... but they can't stifle all of us!

LET'S ROLL.

CD

116 posted on 05/10/2002 1:25:26 PM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: ElRushbo
The Badger Herald is not technically a "lib" paper. It is actually the "independent" [read: non-socialist] paper of U-Wisconsin Madison. The Daily Cardinal is the "lib" paper there.
117 posted on 05/10/2002 1:35:38 PM PDT by stands2reason
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To: Reagan Man
If the two-party system were destroyed, you'd never see another conservative elected again. The left would have two parties, Green and Democrat, and the right would have at least half a dozen. I'm not looking forward to that day.
118 posted on 05/10/2002 1:56:42 PM PDT by stands2reason
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To: Diddle E. Squat
South Dakota? Are you actually Tom Daschle lurking?

Hardly. ;-)

But I am a Tom...and I am going to run against Daschle...does that count? :-)

EV

119 posted on 05/10/2002 2:13:33 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: MeeknMing
Hi Meekie, thank you so much!!
120 posted on 05/10/2002 2:37:12 PM PDT by Snow Bunny
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