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Seven of the WTC Hijackers found alive Debunk PLS
Leftist Site(s) ^ | 2-20-02 | Unknown

Posted on 04/29/2002 4:30:06 PM PDT by Kay Soze

Seven of the WTC Hijackers found alive! 2-20-02

Some of the men the FBI claims hijacked planes on Sept. 11 and crashed them into the World Trade Center in New York, the Pentagon, and Stony Creek Township, Pennsylvania are still alive.

No they weren't pulled from the rubble, they were never on the planes.

The FBI press release of September 27th, 2001 containing names, photographs, aliases and other information is seriously flawed. They have used these peoples names and made claims based on the fact they were pilots and other supposedly incriminating evidence and yet they were not involved. Places of birth, birthdays and other personal details were displayed on news throughout the world.

The FBI still lists these men as suspected hijackers who were killed during the terrorist assault, this is absurd. If this is the quality of the evidence they can present it is no wonder the public cannot see the rest.

7 of the 19 believed hijackers named are still alive.

Saeed Alghamdi, Mohand Alshehri, Abdul aziz Alomari, Salem Alhazmi "It was proved that five of the names included in the FBI list had nothing to do with what happened." - Saudi Arabia's Foreign Minister Prince Saud Al-Faisal told the Arabic Press after meeting with President George W. Bush on Sept. 20th

Saudi officials at the embassy were unable to verify the whereabouts of the fifth accused hijacker, Khalid Al-Mihdhar. However, Arab newspapers say Al-Mihdhar is still alive.

Saeed Alghamdi, Mohand Alshehri, Abdul aziz Alomari and Salem Alhazmi "are not dead and had nothing to do with the heinous terror attacks in New York and Washington." The Saudi Arabian embassy told The Orlando Sentinel.

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Khalid Al-Mihdhar (Flight 77)

Alive Saudi officials at the embassy were unable to verify the whereabouts of the fifth accused hijacker, Khalid Al-Mihdhar. However, Arab newspapers say Al-Mihdhar is still alive.

"..there are suggestions that another suspect, Khalid Al Midhar, may also be alive. " - BBC 23rd September 2001

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Waleed Alshehri (Flight 11) (Trained Pilot) Alive A sixth person on the FBI's list, Saudi national Waleed Alshehri, is living in Casablanca, according to an official with the Royal Air Moroc, the Moroccan commercial airline. According to the unnamed official, Alshehri lived in Dayton Beach, Fla., where he took flight training at Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University. Now he works for a Moroccan airline. On Sept. 22, Associated Press reported that Alshehri had spoken to the U.S. embassy in Morocco.

"His photograph was released by the FBI, and has been shown in newspapers and on television around the world. That same Mr Al-Shehri has turned up in Morocco, proving clearly that he was not a member of the suicide attack. " - Daily Trust 24th September 2001

"He was reported to have been in Hollywood, Florida, for a month earlier this year but his father, Ahmed, said that Waleed was alive and well and living in Morocco." - Telegraph

"Another of the men named by the FBI as a hijacker in the suicide attacks on Washington and New York has turned up alive and well." - BBC 23rd September 2001

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Abdul aziz Alomari (Flight 11) (Trained Pilot) 2 men with same name cobbled together into terrorist.

Both Alive! Omari Number 1 Mr. Al-Omari, a pilot with Saudi Airlines, walked into the US embassy in Jeddah to demand why he was being reported as a dead hijacker in the American media.

"a pilot with Saudi Airlines, was astonished to find himself accused of hijacking ­ as well as being dead ­ and has visited the US consulate in Jeddah to demand an explanation." - Independent 17th September 2001

Omari Number 2 " a Saudi man has reported to authorities that he is the real Abdulaziz Alomari, and claims his passport was stolen in 1995 while he studied electrical engineering at the University of Denver. Alomari says he informed police of the theft." - ABCNews

"I couldn't believe it when the FBI put me on their list. They gave my name and my date of birth, but I am not a suicide bomber. I am here. I am alive. I have no idea how to fly a plane. I had nothing to do with this." - Telegraph 23rd September 2001

"The name [listed by the FBI] is my name and the birth date is the same as mine, but I am not the one who bombed the World Trade Center in New York," Abdulaziz Alomari told the London-based Asharq Al-Awsat newspaper.

"Alomari has since been found in Saudi Arabia and is apparently cleared in the case" - New York Times

"Saudi Embassy officials in Washington have challenged his identity. They say a Saudi electrical engineer named Abdulaziz Alomari had his passport and other papers stolen in 1996 in Denver when he was a student and reported the theft to police there at the time. " - BBC

"The second Abdulaziz Al Omari is a pilot for Saudi Arabian Airlines" - BBC 23rd September 2001

"Abdel Aziz Al-Omari and Saïd Hussein Gharamallah Al-Ghamdi, are well in life, the first in Saudi Arabia and the second in Tunisia for nine months." - Wal Fadjri 21st September 2001 [translate]

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Saeed Alghamdi (Flight 93) (Trained Pilot) Alive "Saeed Alghamdi is one of three hijackers that US officials have said are linked to Osama bin Laden's al-Qaida network. "- BBC

No BBC! Mr. Al-Ghamdi is still alive and well and at his job for Tunis Air

"I was completely shocked. For the past 10 months I have been based in Tunis with 22 other pilots learning to fly an Airbus 320. The FBI provided no evidence of my presumed involvement in the attacks." - Telegraph 23rd September 2001

"Asharq Al Awsat newspaper, a London-based Arabic daily, says it has interviewed Saeed Alghamdi." - BBC 23rd September 2001

"Abdel Aziz Al-Omari and Saïd Hussein Gharamallah Al-Ghamdi, are well in life, the first in Saudi Arabia and the second in Tunisia for nine months." - Wal Fadjri 21st September 2001 [translate]

"..not dead and had nothing to do with the heinous terror attacks in New York and Washington." - Saudi embassy

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Salem Alhazmi (Flight 77)

Alive "Mr Al-Hamzi is 26 and had just returned to work at a petrochemical complex in the industrial eastern city of Yanbou after a holiday in Saudi Arabia when the hijackers struck. He was accused of hijacking the American Airlines Flight 77 that hit the Pentagon." - Telegraph 23rd September 2001

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Ahmed Alnami (Flight 93)

Alive "I'm still alive, as you can see. I was shocked to see my name mentioned by the American Justice Department. I had never even heard of Pennsylvania where the plane I was supposed to have hijacked." He had never lost his passport and found it "very worrying" that his identity appeared to have been "stolen" and published by the FBI without any checks. The FBI had said his "possible residence" was Delray Beach in Florida. " - Telegraph 23rd September 2001


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: alqeda; osama; terrorisim; wtchijackers
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Help me debunk
1 posted on 04/29/2002 4:30:06 PM PDT by Kay Soze
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To: Kay Soze
Gosh, some of those names are the arabic equivalent of 'john smith'. How hard would it be to find somebody 'else' who had the same name and was physically similar?
2 posted on 04/29/2002 4:31:46 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Kay Soze
AND, some of those hijackers used identity theft as well.
3 posted on 04/29/2002 4:32:36 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Kay Soze
When the FBI posted the list they said some of the walking dumb bombs where using other peoples passports and names.

Non-issue.

4 posted on 04/29/2002 4:33:31 PM PDT by Dinsdale
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To: Kay Soze
Waste time on www.mujahideen.org.uk? I think not.
5 posted on 04/29/2002 4:34:11 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: Kay Soze
It's like saying "John Smith isn't dead"
6 posted on 04/29/2002 4:36:45 PM PDT by ChadGore
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To: Kay Soze
Something tells me the people who hijacked those planes are, in all actuality, dead. Just a guess.
7 posted on 04/29/2002 4:38:59 PM PDT by DC Ripper
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To: Kay Soze
Help me debunk

Note that none of the reports were any more recent than 24 September, and they all appeared within a 3-day span. Within that period it's entirely possible that the FBI got some of the names wrong -- false IDs and deception could have taken them for a ride. It's not likely that they got the number of hijackers wrong, though.

I don't recall when they came out with the final list, nor am I particularly motivated to match it up against these reports.

OK: Suppose those nice boys are still alive. By my count we're still missing 2 large buildings, 4 airliners. Plus which we are doing an extensive impromptu remodel of the Pentagon.

And Osama has kindly provided proof that some of the nice gentlemen were indeed aboard.

It's pretty much useless, except as a method to malign the FBI.

8 posted on 04/29/2002 4:40:23 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: Catspaw
Ping!
9 posted on 04/29/2002 4:43:46 PM PDT by ruoflaw
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To: Kay Soze
Jeepers! all we have to do is look at the source you used.
10 posted on 04/29/2002 4:46:34 PM PDT by ruoflaw
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Help me debunk

Well, duh. That site is a jihadist site in the UK. It doesn't need debunking. It needs a torough going-over by the special branch.

This is a snip of their frontpage:

Mujahideen - Muslim Holy Warriors

The Soldiers of God

Against the Luciferian New World Order - the Dajjal System

Islam is a true and perfect way of life (deen). It's commands are secure until this world lasts. However conditions may change or revolutions take place, Islam is secure in it's place because it has formulated laws and rules and regulations that cannot be improved upon nor has anyone to this day been able to come forward with any improvement. Islam is so perfect that there is no place in it for changing it's order of government or it's social administration, or for adding to or diminishing from it's economies, nor is there anything wanting in its principles of social transaction. In short, whatsoever may be the department of life, there is no need to introduce changes in Islam. And how can there be any, when

Allah Himself proclaimed :
" This day have I perfected your religion for you. "


11 posted on 04/29/2002 4:46:57 PM PDT by Cachelot
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To: DC Ripper
Something tells me the people who hijacked those planes are, in all actuality, dead. Just a guess.

Sounds like a Chevy Chase report on Francisco Franko -- "he's still dead."

12 posted on 04/29/2002 4:48:10 PM PDT by jlogajan
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To: Kay Soze
The reason US authorities were able to identify the perps so fast, was that the passengers had to provide identification prior to boarding. I'm sure it doesn't take all that long to verify who the bonified passengers were, and who the terrorists were. Those who used business credit cards to pay for their tickets could be ruled out. Families with small children would be pretty easy to rule out. Pretty soon they found that only four of the people of middle-easter ancestry were not checking out, and you they had their perps.

Try to remember that the middle-eastern states have since 09/11 been trying to discredit reports that Arab/Moslem radicals were the perps. They have been trying to say that the Israelis did this to defect attention off themselves. This story is undoubtedly sourced from a middle-eastern news outlet.

Note that it doesn't have a credible source. I'd dismiss it for what it is, obvious propaganda.

13 posted on 04/29/2002 4:49:24 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: Kay Soze

Well if'n you can just throw the leg closest to the outside of the bunk over the bunks edge and place your foot on the floor. Do the same with the other and place yourself in a sitting position on the edge of the bunk. Then rise up until you are in the upright standing position. Carry on....

14 posted on 04/29/2002 4:54:29 PM PDT by deport
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To: r9etb
I just want to be able to debunk this BS

But it is important to prove that they were Saudis and not say... Palies.

15 posted on 04/29/2002 4:54:36 PM PDT by Kay Soze
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To: ChadGore
It's like saying "John Smith isn't dead"

Really? I didn't even know he was sick! I'll send the little widow a condolence card.

16 posted on 04/29/2002 4:55:22 PM PDT by DallasMike
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To: Kay Soze
The Saudis are pretty active these days, aren't they? I wonder what's stirred them up...
17 posted on 04/29/2002 5:00:03 PM PDT by livius
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To: deport
LOL!!!! Now please explain how one "deports"!!!!
18 posted on 04/29/2002 5:01:20 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Kay Soze
Why did these dumbasses wait until now to come forward?
19 posted on 04/29/2002 5:07:53 PM PDT by balrog666
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To: ruoflaw
The Saudis have acknowledged that 15 of the 19 dead hijackers came from Saudi Arabia. Mohammed Atta's father admitted he was dead--after saying that 1) he was still alive 2) that the Mossad kidnapped him. That'd leave two. I'm not going to bother to figure out who the other two are (that'd be on either fbi.gov or state.gov). But one thing I know is that THEY'RE STILL DEAD.
20 posted on 04/29/2002 5:21:48 PM PDT by Catspaw
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