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State police plan to use driver photos in lineups
The Courier Journal | April 22, 2002 | Andrew Wolfson

Posted on 04/22/2002 2:50:22 AM PDT by SLB

If you're a licensed driver in Kentucky, your photograph soon could be shown to crime victims and witnesses -- and you could be erroneously identified as the perpetrator of a crime.

State police say the automated system will allow troopers and detectives to effortlessly create photopacks, as they're also known, without having to laboriously sift through old mug shots to find enough people who look like the suspect.

Maj. Rob Miller, the state police chief information officer, says that by letting a computer pick the photos, the system also will eliminate charges of police bias -- that a police officer intentionally or subconsciously selected photographs to make the suspect's picture stand out.

But privacy advocates in Kentucky and across the nation denounce the plan, saying it constitutes an invasion of privacy and misuse of records that were collected for another purpose. Most frighteningly, they say, it creates the specter that someone who has never been arrested could be mistakenly identified by an eyewitness and be forced to come up with an alibi.

''Schoolteachers, ministers and judges who have never been in the system could find police knocking on their door in the middle of the night asking, 'Where were you six or nine weeks ago?' '' said Jay Lambert, a criminal defense lawyer in Louisville.

Kentucky would be the first state to allow police to assemble photo lineups from digital driver's license pictures, according to the International Association of Chiefs of Police and the American Association of Motor Vehicle Administrators.

Photopacks traditionally have been filled out with mug shots -- booking photographs of people who previously were arrested or served jail time.

Critics of the state police plan, including lawmakers at both ends of the political spectrum, say the system will cast too wide a net by including all licensed drivers.

State Rep. Kathy Stein, D-Lexington, called it a ''horrid'' idea and said she would try to fight it. State Rep. Perry Clark of Louisville, a conservative Democrat, said that at the least, when drivers renew their licenses, they should be asked if they want their picture used in that fashion.

''It has been proven that eyewitness accounts are often flawed because the witness is in shock,'' Clark said. ''So you have the potential for innocent people to be fingered.''

Even if that doesn't happen, because photopacks are often introduced into evidence, the drivers' pictures would be flashed around the courtroom and shown to the jury.

Miller conceded that innocent citizens could be misidentified as suspects, but he said photo lineups are merely one of many investigative tools.

''You don't go handcuff and arrest somebody just because they are picked in a lineup,'' he said. ''You never take an eyewitness account on its face without some corroboration.''

State police also say photo lineups are generally used to see if an eyewitness can pick out the suspect, not to refocus an investigation on one of the other people pictured if they are selected.

Steve Coffey, the director of driver licensing for the Transportation Cabinet, said, ''Police will still have to do their legwork.''

Some licensed drivers interviewed in Louisville last week generally endorsed the proposal.

Kristy Greenwell, 28, said she worried about being included in a photo lineup but said the system was worth giving a try for six months.

Dwight Neff, 50, said, ''If you're not guilty, you should have nothing to worry about.''

State police will use face-recognition technology to record a suspect's facial contours -- the distance between the eyes, the length of the nose, the shape of the chin and other features. That will be combined with more traditional information, such as the suspect's age, race, height, weight and eye and hair color.

The data will be run against the Transportation Cabinet's collection of digital driver's license pictures to select the five closest matches to the suspect, Miller said.

He said that the state is negotiating with the software maker and that he didn't know how much the system will cost.

Kentucky began issuing digital driver's licenses, which resemble credit cards, this year. By 2006, all 2.8 million of its licensed drivers should have them. Miller said there is no tally of how often state police use photo lineups, but he said they are probably shown to eyewitnesses several times a day.

Miller said that because driver's license photos are public records, state police and the Transportation Cabinet didn't need the General Assembly's approval for the system. He said the Transportation Cabinet has signed an agreement to provide access to the pictures.

Coffey said the system also will allow the Transportation Cabinet to search its collection of photos for people who are licensed under multiple names. Eventually, police may be able to search for faces that are an identical match with a suspect's picture captured on a bank or convenience store camera.

Privacy advocates say those both may be legitimate uses of digital license photographs, but using them for photopacks goes too far.

That's what state agencies decided in Illinois and Colorado, where police are only allowed to tap into the driver's license photos to search for a suspect or to verify a driver's identity.

In Illinois, state officials cited privacy concerns when they decided a few years ago that digital license photos wouldn't be made available to police for photo lineups, said David Druker, a spokesman for Illinois' driver's license agency.

In Colorado, the face-recognition system is used only when people first apply for a license, to see if they already have one and are trying to get another under a new identify, said Dorothy Dalquist, communications director for the Colorado Department of Revenue, which includes driver licensing. ''We are not in law-enforcement business.''

To fight identification fraud, the motor vehicle administrators group has endorsed letting police, when making road stops, tap into their state's photo bank ''to make sure the driver is who they say they are,'' said marketing director Seldon Fritschner.

But as for letting police use drivers' photos in photopacks, Fritschner said, ''We wouldn't touch that with a 10foot pole.''

Jeff vessels, executive director of the American Civil Liberties Union of Kentucky, said Kentucky's plan is a scary example of ''function creep,'' in which data collected by the government for one reason ends up being used for something else.

''People let their image be taken for the purpose of driving a car, and then it's used for a purpose they never contemplated,'' said Paula Bruening, staff counsel for the Washington-based Center for Democracy and Technology, a research and watchdog group.

Stephen Keating, executive director of the Denver-based Privacy Foundation, which researches technology that may threaten privacy, said Kentuckians should be able to put their photo off-limits when they are relicensed.

''Driver license data is a big honey pot that a lot of government and private businesses want to get their hands into,'' Keating said.

The state police's Miller said there is nothing to worry about.

''We're not out to make this some 'I Spy' tool,'' he said. ''We don't want to be violating people's rights. It's just an easy means to get photos we can use.''

But Lambert, the criminal defense lawyer, cautioned that the better the technology works -- the closer the driver's pictures matches the suspect's -- the more likely it will be that an innocent citizen will be identified as a crime suspect.

Even if the driver is cleared, it may be only after police talk to the person's employer, family and friends, Vessels noted.

William Johnson, a veteran Frankfort defense attorney and former president of the Kentucky Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers, said that even if the system eliminates police bias in photopacks, it won't be worth the trade-off.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; US: Kentucky
KEYWORDS: corruption; invasionofprivacy; newworldoder
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I had to have my license renewed last week. I asked about this very subject and was assured the photo was not "kept" for any purposes. However the procedure took at least five minutes to complete. Guess they had to store my image.
1 posted on 04/22/2002 2:50:22 AM PDT by SLB
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To: one_particular_harbour; Calculus_of_Consent
Ping.
2 posted on 04/22/2002 2:54:19 AM PDT by riley1992
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To: SLB
This is scary, to think that you may live on the opposite end of the state, had nothing to do, what-so-ever, with a crime and then have your photo picked out as the culprit that committed one.

There have been numerous occasions when people have told me I was a dead ringer for so-and-so. I hope one of my clones doesn't live in KY.

3 posted on 04/22/2002 3:58:32 AM PDT by chainsaw
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FYI
5 posted on 04/22/2002 4:24:18 AM PDT by SLB
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To: SLB
This will backfire. They'll end up getting photos that look so much like the suspect that the suspect won't ever be able to be identified amongst the lookalikes.
6 posted on 04/22/2002 4:26:34 AM PDT by Sandy
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To: Sandy
This will backfire. They'll end up getting photos that look so much like the suspect that the suspect won't ever be able to be identified amongst the lookalikes.

Kind of defeats the original purpose of the lineup IMHO in addition to the other drawbacks already articulated here.

7 posted on 04/22/2002 4:37:06 AM PDT by toddst
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To: SLB
I guess this is now incentive to shave, get a haircut, and put on your best clothes before getting your driver photo taken.
8 posted on 04/22/2002 4:42:11 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: SLB
Dwight Neff, 50, said, ''If you're not guilty, you should have nothing to worry about.''

Classic . . .

10 posted on 04/22/2002 5:31:22 AM PDT by realpatriot71
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To: realpatriot71; Wally Cleaver; the irate magistrate; pocat
Dwight Neff, 50, said, ''If you're not guilty, you should have nothing to worry about.''

What a maroon!

SLB, I'll bet your digital image will be sold to other agencies. If I know Kentucky and that sleazebucket Patton who posed for the 'first digital license picture', there's money to be made and corruption to protect.

11 posted on 04/22/2002 6:08:09 AM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: SLB
This might not be a bad thing, if "cold hits" are rightly recognized as being unreliable. The notion that a "cold hit" in any sort of lineup means anything is absurd.

To clarify: suppose one figures that a lineup of 10 people has a 33% chance of identifying the right guy, a 33% chance of identifying the wrong guy, and a 33% chance of identifying nobody. If the police have a suspect and two people ID him, that increases the likelihood that they in fact have the correct suspect. On the other hand, there's a 1 in 27 chance that two people will ID the same wrong suspect if their mistakes are independent; if the wrong suspect has some trait that increased his likelihood of being picked, the odds of erroneous double-ID go up substantially.

12 posted on 04/22/2002 7:13:19 AM PDT by supercat
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To: Fred Mertz
If I know Kentucky and that sleazebucket Patton who posed for the 'first digital license picture', there's money to be made and corruption to protect.

No, pleeze tell me it's not true. Corruption in the state government? Never happen in Kentucky

13 posted on 04/22/2002 8:39:57 AM PDT by SLB
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To: SLB
I, myself, went today to get my driver's license renewed. Personally, I HATE the new digital driver's licenses altogether. I have no use for the hologramic, high-tech, bar-code national identification card that the KY. driver's license has become; let's not kid ourselves if there is a shred of doubt out there: it IS a national ID card.

And, also, I had to sit and wait for at least ten minutes in the Circuit Clerk's Office, where I suppose they had to program all my vital information into the national database. Because I swear to you, I went into the office at approximately 10 AM this morning and I was LITERALLY THE ONLY PERSON in the office.

interesting times.....

14 posted on 04/22/2002 9:59:03 AM PDT by RonPaulLives
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To: one_particular_harbour
Lots of fodder for someone who wants to run on the privacy issue next year for Governor, or this year as a state rep or senator.
15 posted on 04/22/2002 11:49:35 AM PDT by CreekerFreeper
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To: SLB
Oh, terrific. I have to go and have mine renewed this week. Ya reckon they'll want a DNA sample, too? Chippin' away at our freedom, little by little.
16 posted on 04/22/2002 2:51:31 PM PDT by bearsgirl90
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To: one_particular_harbour
We are rapidly approaching an absolute police state, the likes of which have been previously impossible due to the limitations of technology.
17 posted on 04/22/2002 2:54:34 PM PDT by Lazamataz
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To: Fred Mertz, SLB,one_particular_harbour,Squantos,Cap'n Crunch
With the luck I've had lately, I'll be fingered the first time someone sees my picture in the new "license line-up." Here's my latest experience:

Last Monday morning I was pulled over by a county cop on my way to work at 4am. He approached my truck with a flashlight in one hand and his pistol in the other. He ordered me to keep my hands where he could see them. I kept them glued on the steering wheel. I didn't notice the gun at first, but when I turned to look he was drawing down RIGHT ON MY HEAD! (Luckily, I had already taken out my license and CCW permit as soon as I pulled over). When I saw this, I said "Whoa there buddy, what's the problem?" He said the store down the road had just been broken in to and the silent alarm went off. He said the back door was wide open. I had just pulled out from the road right next to it when he saw me. He seemed convinced that I just left the store's parking lot.

At this point, he was looking at my driver's license and CCW permit. He asked if I had a weapon on me. I said it was in the truck, I always carry it, and asked him if he wanted to get it. I'm not sure if me having a gun made him more nervous, or (as I would think) if a CCW is proof of a good citizen. He declined to check my weapon. After he quickly interrogated me about where I came from/was going, he spotted a metal lockbox (similar to a store's cash box) in the back of my truck. A guy at work recently gave it to me but I didn't have the key with me. I told him to shake it if he wanted - the whole time keeping my death grip on the steering wheel. After a few tense minutes, he was finally convinced I wasn't his public enemy #1, and he went to join the other cops at the store. I'd never had a loaded gun pointed at my head before, and I thought I might have to go back home to change my underwear!

What do you guys think? Was he a little too quick to draw, or were his actions understandable?

19 posted on 04/22/2002 4:15:18 PM PDT by pocat
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To: bearsgirl90
Chippin' away at our freedom, little by little.

I just saw a disturbing picture in a recent newspaper. I think it was USAToday.

It was a picture of a security guard "wanding" a college girl for weapons before she entered the Capitol building for a tour. The caption read, "Eternal vigilance is the price of freedom."

I thought I was going to puke. So now, THIS is the NEW "vigilance" - subjecting ourselves to more and more searches and seizures - in the name of a perverted "freedom." When I saw this photo, I recalled what Franklin said about those who would sacrifice freedom for security, but now the powers-that-be are equating one with the other and the sheeple are eating it up. Our Republic is doomed.

20 posted on 04/22/2002 4:26:04 PM PDT by pocat
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