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Endorsement of adult-child sex on rise (Barf alert)
The Washington Times, Culture section ^ | April 19, 2002 | Robert Stacy McCain

Posted on 04/19/2002 7:02:28 AM PDT by FormerLib

Edited on 07/12/2004 3:38:29 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

A new book that says child molesters are not a major peril to children is part of a larger movement within academia to promote "free sexual expression of children."

The movement to legitimize sex between adults and children is "gathering steam," warns Stephanie Dallam, researcher for the Leadership Council for Mental Health, Justice and the Media in Philadelphia, an organization that deals with prevention and treatment of child abuse.


(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: homosexualagenda; homosexuality; pedophilia
"I started saying seven years ago that there was a movement to make pedophilia an alternative lifestyle, and my colleagues looked at me like I was crazy. Here we are seven years later and that is exactly what's happening."
1 posted on 04/19/2002 7:02:29 AM PDT by FormerLib
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To: Homosexual agenda
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2 posted on 04/19/2002 7:02:52 AM PDT by FormerLib
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To: FormerLib
How about this? And TAX DOLLARS ARE FUNDING THE PUBLISHING OF THIS BOOK! Because no mainstream publisher would take it, it was published by the university. Minnesotans should protest this disgusting misuse of their tax dollars.
3 posted on 04/19/2002 7:11:15 AM PDT by Judith Anne
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To: FormerLib
Well, you knew it had to happen.

My guess at the not-too-distant future: a comedy-drama on HBO or some such where 45-year old Joe Schmoe is drawn reluctantly but irresistably into a relationship with Britney Bright, a smart, mature 13-year old girl. After a few furtive meetings the two decide to make their love public. After a period of ostracism, their obvious love is clear to all, and in a touching scene, Joe Schmoe is embraced by Britney's parents, Bob and Bonnie (who are younger than Joe). The happy couple is welcomed into normal society, where their age and culture differences generate madcap hilarity.

4 posted on 04/19/2002 7:12:10 AM PDT by r9etb
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I don't know if the HBO audience would be willing to accept a little girl in such a role. Make it a little boy and it'll probably fly.
5 posted on 04/19/2002 7:16:16 AM PDT by FormerLib
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To: FormerLib
Several years ago a co-worker of mine (a young mother) was spouting off one day about 'homosexual rights' (she was pro), so I decided to engage her in some lively debate. Since she had no problem with homosexuality, I asked her if she had a problem with adults having sex with her kids--I told her it was just a matter of time before the bar was lowered to that level. She became very quiet and introspective after that.
6 posted on 04/19/2002 7:23:00 AM PDT by randog
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To: FormerLib
I don't know if the HBO audience would be willing to accept a little girl in such a role. Make it a little boy and it'll probably fly.

That will be the spin-off, no doubt. But people probably aren't ready for it right away -- pedophiles are still creepy.

However, people are already aware that (a) girls used to get married very young; and (b) there are 13-year old girls who could easily pass as older. It's still heterosexual, though, and thus "understandable." The only stumbling block is age difference, but as you see in the article, they're already undermining that taboo. Besides, the young girl/old guy angle would drive the whole plot line.

There's undoubtedly some of-age and stacked young thing who can pull off the role of precocious young teen girl. HBO could probably make it work, and the Supreme Court has made clear that there's nothing to stop them from trying.

I predict you'll see it within 5 years.

7 posted on 04/19/2002 7:23:53 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: FormerLib
1. The American empire, like the Roman, will likely fall if it continues on this downward spiral of moral decadence.

2. The liberals, far from having any real concern about harm to children, are in bad faith using the priestly pedophilia scandal as a pretext to attack the Church for the unchanging Christian moral teaching that sex is only properly engaged in in a lifelong marriage between a man and a woman. Why do we not see any liberal denunciations of this book that promotes pedophilia.

8 posted on 04/19/2002 7:34:26 AM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: r9etb
Your scenario has already happened, and it's no HBO flick. The self-described comedian Jerry Seinfeld flaunted his relationship with a lovely female - one that began when she was 14 and continued thru her teen years. It was in all th' papers, and so noted in a thread here on FR yesterday.

And the youngER girl/oldER guy plot line goes back to biblical times. Not exactly new.

While I find the idea of "child sex" abhorent, there's an effort on the part of many to paint the "child" label on sexually-sentient biologically-adult adolescents, and I'm sorry, but it just doesn't fly. According to the CDC, today's 13 year-old girl in this country is almost two years PAST menarche and as biologically functional as an adult. She has probably reached 95% of her adult height and has reached about 90% of her adult figure development. By the age of 16, those figures are closer to 100%. Yet, the American society wants to call these gals "children." Sorry, but that is counter to nature. Yes, these girls may lack the mental and psychological maturity to make what we oldsters would like to think are responsible decisions about their bodies, but that, too, is a fact of nature.

I'm not sure exactly when the artificial and arbitrary age of 18 was decided upon as the demarcation point between "childhood" and "adulthood," but I can tell you that "childhood" ends with the onset of puberty. Modern society enforces a sort of adolescent purgatory on those who emerge from childhood into self-awareness, asking them to function, in some ways at least, as children until they reach the chronological age of 18.0000000 years. Then, somehow, magically, they're no longer "churldrin."

Sorry, but that doesn't wash with me. You want to talk adult-child sex - i.e., with real "children"? Yes, it's abhorent and against nature and God. But once the flowers of biological adulthood bloom, adult-like behavior is instinctively driven to follow, and all the social strictures you wish to put in place won't stop it. It's happened forever, and will continue to do so.

As for your HBO movie idea - the real oddity these days is a 13-year old who is NOT sexually self-aware and developed. If you don't realize this, then you must lead a sheltered life, because it ain't th' same as when YOU went to Jr. High.

And your protagonist need not be "well-stacked," despite the contention by some here on FR that ALL adult women (by definition) have huge breasts, and if some gal does NOT, then she must be underage. No, the sexual organ that's most important in making the plot work is her MIND. You can see desire in the EYES, in the tone of voice and cadence of breathing. Big tits would spoil the illusion.

Michael

9 posted on 04/19/2002 8:08:00 AM PDT by Wright is right!
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To: FormerLib
Already posted, folks.
10 posted on 04/19/2002 8:12:56 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost
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To: r9etb
Been done: Woody Allen's Manhattan. In the underlying theme of the movie, Allen's character is surrounded by flakey, manipulative, shallow adult women. He is having an affair with Mariel Hemingway, who is still in high school. She is the only rational person in the movie. Although the ending isn't what you depicted, the overall theme of the movie was that Allen should dump the flakey adult women and get together with Ms. Hemingway. These movies have been flying in under the radar for quite a while. The Professional (Natalie Portman), The Babysitter (Alicia Silverstone), and of course, Pretty Baby (Brooke Shields).
11 posted on 04/19/2002 8:24:05 AM PDT by Richard Kimball
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To: FormerLib
I said a couple of years ago that if we were not careful, the leftist propagandists would make pedophilia acceptable to the public within 20 years. We are not quite there yet, but if this shit is not stamped out now then we are well on our way.
12 posted on 04/19/2002 8:44:49 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: FormerLib
You're not crazy. Its just sex. Its just another lifestyle choice. Besides who are you to tell nice perverts they can't have fun with the kiddies? Next thing before you know they'll be pushing to make bestiality legal too.
13 posted on 04/19/2002 8:50:49 AM PDT by goldstategop
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To: Wright is right!
And your protagonist need not be "well-stacked," despite the contention by some here on FR that ALL adult women (by definition) have huge breasts, and if some gal does NOT, then she must be underage.

True, but for it to fly in Hollywood, breasts are a must. Besides that, a 13-year old character without breasts would be regarded as a little girl -- which is obviously not the goal.

I'm not sure exactly when the artificial and arbitrary age of 18 was decided upon as the demarcation point between "childhood" and "adulthood," but I can tell you that "childhood" ends with the onset of puberty. Modern society enforces a sort of adolescent purgatory on those who emerge from childhood into self-awareness, asking them to function, in some ways at least, as children until they reach the chronological age of 18.0000000 years. Then, somehow, magically, they're no longer "churldrin."

I think you're much mistaken to separate the physical and psychological aspects of sexual maturity. I think you're also seriously wrong when you call age limits "artificial and arbitrary."

You might consider that those age limits were arrived at for sound reasons, and that you just don't know what those reasons are.

It might work for a society where survival techniques are (a) extremely low-tech, (b) there are requirements for the girl to be provided for by either father or husband, and (c) the society is set up to support the young wife(!!).

In our society, however, the physically mature teenage girl almost never has the psycological maturity to survive on her own. The emphasis is on sex, not marriage; and the girls are educationally and mentally unequipped to make their own living in a society designed for mature adults.

That "artificial" age of 18 isn't at all arbitrary, nor artificial. It happens to be the age at which people have the rudiments of maturity, and enough education, to earn a reasonable living in our society.

14 posted on 04/19/2002 8:56:05 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: Richard Kimball
True. And don't forget Lolita (which is a very disturbing book).

But those are one-shot deals which tend not to work themselves into the fabric of the culture, because they're not followed-up by anything.

For it to be part of the culture, it has to show up always and everywhere -- for example, on TV and in the media hype cycle. These days, that generally happens only for TV shows.

15 posted on 04/19/2002 9:01:14 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
I wish posters wouldn't change the title. It makes it impossible to find via search prior to posting.
16 posted on 04/19/2002 9:23:29 AM PDT by FormerLib
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