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Simon, Davis spar on economy
sacbee.com ^ | April 18, 2002 | Gary Delsohn -- Bee Staff Writer

Posted on 04/18/2002 10:28:38 AM PDT by let freedom sing

Edited on 04/12/2004 5:35:08 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

In separate meetings, they also trade barbs about the challenger's income taxes. When they weren't busy sniping to reporters about whether Bill Simon has paid his "fair share" of taxes, Gov. Gray Davis and his Republican challenger appeared before statewide business leaders Wednesday and clashed over Davis' record on California's economy.


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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: calgov2002; california; davis; election; governor; simon
The shabby part is how Davis hurt CAs economy in less than a few months-- where is CA on that list. NOW?
1 posted on 04/18/2002 10:28:38 AM PDT by let freedom sing
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To: elk grove dan, gophack
<))) ping
2 posted on 04/18/2002 10:29:21 AM PDT by let freedom sing
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To: let freedom sing
Probably, California's economic growth can be attributed to the explosion in the high tech industry, which he cannot take credit for. It's recent problems can be traced to high energy costs (for which he should be blamed) and the Clinton Administration's assault on Microsoft (which he supported).
3 posted on 04/18/2002 10:51:33 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter
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To: let freedom sing
Davis is a corrupt, liberal politican. I'm glad he's finally talking about his record. Perhaps he can answer the questions as to why:

1) California ratepayers are paying far more for gas and electricity than ratepayers in other western states;

2) California taxpayers are responsible for $46+ Billion in long-term energy contracts and a $10 Billion bond;

3) One in five California school-children are not proficient at their grade level.

4) 63% of incoming college freshmen must take remedial math and English classes.

No more corrupt liberal in office. Elect Bill Simon!!!!

4 posted on 04/18/2002 10:52:11 AM PDT by Gophack
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To: calgov2002
Index. May Grayout be toast come November....
5 posted on 04/18/2002 11:25:27 AM PDT by eureka!
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To: Gophack
Davis is a corrupt, liberal politican. I'm glad he's finally talking about his record. Perhaps he can answer the questions as to why:

Perhaps he should also have to answer why California continues to have twice the abortion rate of the nation as a whole? Or, maybe he should answer why California continues to enjoy the distinction of being one of the most popular spots in the nation to receive a vile mid or late-term abortion (so popular, in fact, that children at play have been known to find discarded boxes filled with dismembered babies by the roadside -- not enough room in the dumps for all the clinics' "trash", I guess)? But he won't be answering these questions, of course, because Bill Simon refuses to ask them. But everyone should rest assured knowing Simon has clearly stated that he is pro-life...

6 posted on 04/18/2002 12:03:15 PM PDT by helmsman
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To: helmsman
I shouldn't get into a banter about this with you, because I know that we're on the same side. Abortion is an evil, mortal sin and cruel and hateful crime.

Bill Simon IS pro-life. He has stated such. He opposes abortion.

Gray Davis IS a liberal pro-abort. He supports abortion on demand throughout the entire nine months of pregnancy. He thinks that little girls should be taken to abortion mills without their parents knowledge or consent. That teen-agers should be given birth control. That pharmacists distribute abortion pills.

To people like you and me, we want Bill Simon to preach from the tallest mountain that abortion is wrong, that it's evil, that Davis is the extremist. But the fact remains: MOST PEOPLE DO NOT CARE.

Believe me, it hurts me personally to know that so many people are indifferent when it comes to abortion. I want to show them the pictures of aborted babies so they will KNOW what abortion is. But an election year is NOT the time to educate about abortion, and it's NOT the time for Bill Simon to come out and talk about it. Bill Simon needs to focus on the issues that the majority of Californian's vote on: economy, economy, economy and education. He is. He's focused.

It's up to US, the activists, to go after Gray Davis on these issues. Bill Simon isn't going to call us extremist or tell us to shut up or that we're in the minority. We better help Simon by being the pit bulls in the campaign, the people who support him and tell the world the evils of Davis.

Simon can then be above it all, talking to the people who don't care about abortion and the homosexual perversion in our public schools. Because while it's sad, it's true: people just don't care. And it's more important to have Simon WIN and be in a position to support the pro-life movement, then lose and be a has been. Simon isn't going to change his mind on abortion ... he's just not going to do it. He's one of us. I want him as Governor because he'll listen to us.

He's not going to listen if we stab him in the back because he doesn't do everything we want him to do. As long as he doesn't flip-flop -- and I'm 100% confident that he won't -- he deserves our full support.

7 posted on 04/18/2002 12:24:50 PM PDT by Gophack
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To: Gophack
I'll admit i'm pro-choice, but I'd vote for Simon over Davis anyday, as Simon has a clear, well-thought-out economic plan for California. It would not be incredibly hard to privitize the electricity, but ever-so-fruitful to the small businesses, a core part of the U.S. economy. Hopefully, he can also create the seperation of labor-union, and school curriculum, and state.
8 posted on 04/18/2002 12:58:08 PM PDT by rightwingbob
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To: Gophack
To people like you and me, we want Bill Simon to preach from the tallest mountain that abortion is wrong, that it's evil, that Davis is the extremist. But the fact remains: MOST PEOPLE DO NOT CARE.

They don't care because pro-life politicians usually never bring it up. Politicians are leaders by definition. If they don't lead the people on this issue, then who will?

It's up to US, the activists, to go after Gray Davis on these issues.

Well, no one will give a damn what Helmsman has to say about Gray Death, of that I can be sure. But they might just listen to Bill Simon, you think?

As long as he doesn't flip-flop -- and I'm 100% confident that he won't -- he deserves our full support.

I can't see why. He's already made it clear that he will do nothing to stop abortion in your state, not even those abortions that the majority of Californians oppose themselves. If he won't fight, then he's worthless. I know that you enthusiastically support him, Gophack, but you're doing it for reasons other than abortion. You know that what I'm telling you about Simon is true, but you seem to have resigned yourself. Well, when all pro-lifers resign themselves to the status-quo, that's when we will have lost this struggle. Perhaps we already have. It's becoming increasingly clear to me that abortion won't be finished by the pro-life movement, it will probably be finished by technology, ultimately. It will be finished in ways, and by means, which you will no doubt find immoral. But the irony will be that those who cared most for the unborn were the ones who were least effective in protecting them. As for me, I'll take an end to abortion however I can get it. But that certainly won't be through politicians like Simon.

9 posted on 04/18/2002 1:03:59 PM PDT by helmsman
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To: rightwingbob
Hopefully, he can also create the seperation of labor-union, and school curriculum, and state.

Worth repeating ...

10 posted on 04/18/2002 1:18:54 PM PDT by Gophack
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To: let freedom sing
anyone know the most recent poll numbers?
11 posted on 04/18/2002 1:20:30 PM PDT by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans
Yes ... a poll came out early this week that had Simon at 44 and Davis just under 38.

Another poll confirms Simon leads

12 posted on 04/18/2002 1:49:11 PM PDT by Gophack
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To: Gophack
Eight weeks since the primary and Bill Simon still LEADS?? No wonder Gray-Out's getting desperate. Hence the tax return tactic. Nice stunt, but it won't fly... Look for Davis to try throwing everything he has in the hopes that something will stick before he blows a gasket for real and has a meltdown.
13 posted on 04/19/2002 8:59:36 AM PDT by goldstategop
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To: goldstategop
Yep, and pretty soon Davis won't be able to talk about Simon remaining silent on taxes and other matters ... in the press this morning he "refused comment" on the Oracle contract debacle with his Department of Information Technology ... a contract that is going to cost taxpayers millions, and was signed for employees who don't exist.

No comment, Mr. Davis?

14 posted on 04/19/2002 9:40:25 AM PDT by Gophack
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