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A QUESTION CONCERNING THE CATHOLIC SCANDAL
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Posted on 04/18/2002 4:46:41 AM PDT by 7thson

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TOPICS: Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: catholicchurch; homosexualabuse
I have a question for the freepers - or should that be Freepers.

Do I, as a Catholic, have the right to ask my priest if he knows of any homosexual priests in the church? And if he does, do I have the right to ask who they are so that other parishoners know who they are?

1 posted on 04/18/2002 4:46:41 AM PDT by 7thson
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To: 7thson
It would be not only a right, but a obligation.
2 posted on 04/18/2002 4:53:00 AM PDT by IW
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To: 7thson
No.
3 posted on 04/18/2002 4:53:00 AM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: 7thson
I would imagine you have every right to ask. But I would say he would also have a right not to answer.
4 posted on 04/18/2002 4:55:24 AM PDT by Happygal
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To: 7thson
I think that is the only way that the church will ever have this mess cleared up. I hope you encourage your friends and family to do the same.
5 posted on 04/18/2002 5:01:03 AM PDT by Diva Betsy Ross
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To: 7thson
You would have the same right to ask that question as you would have to ask your Priest to identify Priests who are alcoholics.

Would you ask that question?

Remember: in the Catholic Church being a homosexual is not a sin. Acting in an unchaste manner is a sin whether you are homosexual or heterosexual.

6 posted on 04/18/2002 5:02:21 AM PDT by Rum Tum Tugger
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Yes , in fact you should demand that he address this issue like my pastor did at a recent Sunday homily.
7 posted on 04/18/2002 5:25:04 AM PDT by alisasny
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To: 7thson
You can ask, but unless he has knowledge gained first-hand he will probably not engage in speculation.
8 posted on 04/18/2002 5:34:10 AM PDT by Cicero5
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To: 7thson
I have a question for the freepers - or should that be Freepers.

Freepers. Proper nouns should be capitalized.

Do I, as a Catholic, have the right to ask my priest if he knows of any homosexual priests in the church?

Yes. It is always good to get your priests perspective.

And if he does, do I have the right to ask who they are so that other parishoners know who they are?

You have the right to ask but unless he has proof he should not answer with names. And if he has proof he should have already acted on it.

I notice you use the word homosexual rather than pedophile. Since priests are supposed to be celebate are you equally angry at all non-celebate priests

9 posted on 04/18/2002 5:43:47 AM PDT by Joe Driscoll
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
Why do you say no?
10 posted on 04/18/2002 5:50:34 AM PDT by 7thson
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To: Joe Driscoll
First of all, what made you assume that I am angry? I asked for advice on two question - what are you reading and/or projecting in my questions? Second, to clarify matters, I am not angry that there are homosexuals in the Church. I would be more shocked and surprised if none were there. No, I do not have a conspiracy theory. Just that, as in any large organization, you will have inside a cross sectioin of society. What I am angry about is the inaction and/or inability to remove people from the Church who are committing these heinious sins against innocents. Pray for them, forgive them, but also remove them from those whom they would harm.
11 posted on 04/18/2002 5:56:21 AM PDT by 7thson
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Invite your priest to dinner.

We invited my wife's favorite priest (his sermons, invariably, brought tears to her eyes; he had a gift for homily) to dinner one time. In discussing stuff along the lines of photography, landscapes and such, he observed that he'd found some beautiful scenery at seminary. He pointed out that there were definitely times you wanted to be by yourself.

He was actually angered by the 'lavendar crowd', and said, prophetically, that a few bad apples can ruin the experience for the rest of the students. He was there to grow closer to Christ, not find a date.

It was interesting to here that from a priest. And apparently he was right.

12 posted on 04/18/2002 6:02:41 AM PDT by Mr. Thorne
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Ask away, but be prepared for some snotty remarks and never ask a question like that without a close friend being with you.

I'd just as soon not go to a mass celebrated by a homosexual Priest.

Better yet ask him for an accounting of how the parish spends The Peoples money, tell him you'd like it in writing so you can study it.

THEN DUCK!!!!!!

13 posted on 04/18/2002 6:10:57 AM PDT by chatham
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I didn't get any feeling of anger in your questions at all, as someone else did.

If some one asked me if I am angry about Homosexual Priests I would say I certainly am angry and disgusted since they are responsible for thousands of childrens and young peoples lives being destroyed.

I am equally angry and sad that the hierarchy didn't have the christian decency to protect the children against these pernicious and rapacious cretons masquerading as People of God,while they perform the Devil's work.

14 posted on 04/18/2002 6:21:18 AM PDT by chatham
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Why do you say no?

Admittedly, you asked a difficult question. There are a couple of things that trouble me. My personal experience, as an Episcopalian, when the church turned left, the church left me. I didn’t leave the church. It was a fact I had to face. My “no” answer is because I believe Emily Post would have advised the same thing. Asking about people’s sex life is not acceptable. This might appear weak, but that was what was ingrained in me.

I know I have been of no help to you. I really should not have entered in this conversation because I. Once I pressed the Post Reply button, I had regrets. Best of luck. What you are going through is very difficult. Keep us posted.

15 posted on 04/18/2002 6:45:47 AM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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Sorry, 7thson. The post above got away from me before I could finish my thoughts. I have a Spanish version of Windows, and I have to press another button to get into English. Instead of pressing "En" (English), I pressed the post button. I hope the rest of my day goes better.

Why do you say no?

Admittedly, you asked a difficult question. There are a couple of things that trouble me. My personal experience, as an Episcopalian, when the church turned left, the church left me. I didn’t leave the church. It was a fact I had to face. My “no” answer is because I believe Emily Post would have advised the same thing. Asking about people’s sex life is not acceptable. This might appear weak, but that was what was ingrained in me.

I know I have been of no help to you. I really should not have entered in this conversation because I'm not in your shoes. Once I pressed the Post Reply button, I had regrets. Best of luck. What you are going through is very difficult. Keep us posted.

16 posted on 04/18/2002 6:52:25 AM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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I would assume he knows plenty in the clergy but what do you gain by asking? It is evident that the Catholic Church in America is deeply infiltrated. Will knowing whether your pastor is or isn't gay help bring you closer to Christ? No it isn't going to help you in the pew. This isn't the first time in history we have had big problems and St. Francis of Assisi when approached about a scandalous priest said he would go and take Holy Communion...you see that is where our strength comes from and where our focus should be in this battle as the Sacramental Graces are our best weapon. At this point your time might be better spent in Eucharistic Adoration, reading the CCC and writing letters to the hierarchy.
17 posted on 04/18/2002 7:12:32 AM PDT by Domestic Church
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
My personal experience, as an Episcopalian, when the church turned left, the church left me. I didn’t leave the church.
The Lord says,
Can a mother forget her infant, be without tenderness for the child of her womb? Even should she forget, I will never forget you. Isaiah 49,15
May the Lord's loving presence be always with you brother.
18 posted on 04/19/2002 12:15:03 AM PDT by heyheyhey
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