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Y? DNA! Q.E.D.
NY TIMES ^ | 4/17/02 | MAUREEN DOWD

Posted on 04/17/2002 3:37:41 PM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection

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1 posted on 04/17/2002 3:37:41 PM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Maureen Dowd.....not smart enough and too stupid (her words) to marry.......

Awwwwww

NeverGore

2 posted on 04/17/2002 3:40:40 PM PDT by nevergore
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Awwww....what feminists have wrought......stupid is as stupid does. I have an MBA and really good resume', but am smart enough to know that my first and primary role is in support of my husband. He wins the bread each and every day, and I get to do whatever I want, AND support him....together, not as adversaries, we win. The best thing I ever did was quit my DRAINING job. He sometimes longs for the money, though! But, then I remind him that I really only bring home 1/3 of what I make when I work, outside of the home, and it isn't worth it to our lives. I save us more money by not working, and make our life more comfortable, and I'm da*n proud of that.
3 posted on 04/17/2002 3:51:48 PM PDT by goodnesswins
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To: goodnesswins
Good for you!
4 posted on 04/17/2002 4:05:01 PM PDT by willgolfforfood
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To: goodnesswins
my first and primary role is in support of my husband.

Your first and primary role can be whatever you want it to be, but I would suggest that it should be in support of YOURSELF. You're not much good to anybody unless you're a complete person, with or without a mate. Then, when you've finally gotten to the point where you're self-sufficient and self-sustaining, any relationship you form is elective, not imperative, a bonus not an onus.

5 posted on 04/17/2002 4:06:24 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: goodnesswins
Could you send me a tissue sample in case Cloning becomes ethical as well as safe? I love intellectual interplay and have found that real understanding really enhances all aspects of a relationship. I don't mind working for two and dying sooner for a woman who gives me unconditional positive regard.

When I was president of a small, unstable, but growing company, I was stressed out and the woman I was dating at the time was not supportive at all of what I was trying to do...Two years later I was a success and I went to visit my now ex in my brand new Luxury SUV and she was dumbstruck with what she had missed out on. My self confidence at being successful had turned me into the guy I knew I could become once the fires were put out, but she had no faith in my ability to "just do it". Women, if you see a man who has dreams and is steadfast, its time to pitch your tent...A little trust in a man is more powerful than any antidepressent and can move a mountain...Unfortunately I did it without a womans help but it can be done with booze and pets. IMHO Cats rule, Dogs Drool!

6 posted on 04/17/2002 4:09:13 PM PDT by sleavelessinseattle
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To: IronJack
Claptrap, Ironjack, the fact is there are now millions of unfulfilled single professional women now past their biological clock age because they all wanted to self actualize. My sister, sad to say, is one of them. I've chased enough professional women, I've learned my lesson.
7 posted on 04/17/2002 4:15:11 PM PDT by FastCoyote
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millions of unfulfilled single professional women now past their biological clock age because they all wanted to self actualize.

Maybe those same women would have been unfulfilled divorced mothers if they hadn't taken the time to at least chase their illusion. I wonder how anyone could begrudge any person the right to make their own mistakes. Not every woman needs to pursue a career to be "self-actualized," but those who do would probably not be satisfied with the June Cleaver lifestyle you would impose on them.

8 posted on 04/17/2002 4:31:35 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Maureen Dowd is a well-known, well-paid fool. I made it a point, this time around (yes, I have been maritally recycled) to find someone who was smarter than I am. On the Internet, my Close Personal Assistant Felicity Fahrquar, was created as "younger, prettier and smarter than the Congressman."

By great good fortune, the woman who entered my life and is now my spouse, is a real Felicity Fahrquar. And she IS "younger, prettier and smarter" than I am. She edits every word that I write -- and it always improves the result. She keeps me on my toes. And she can cook some nifty things that are quite different from the Japanese stuf I like to cook.

I am delighted to be married to someone who can always "hit the ball back over the net." And she is delighted to be married to someone around whom she doesn't have to "hide the fact" that she's one sharp cookie.

To my experience, intelligence, ambition and success are about equally distributed among women and men. The only problem is, when you're part of the small percentage at the top of the heap you have to try real hard to find someone who matches most (but of course not all) of your interests and abillities. That statement applies equally to men and to women who are seeking a happy marriage.

I admit I was very lucky. She found me, from the wilds of South Succotash, Indiana. But even with serious searching rather than luck, it can be done.

I think Dowd is, as usual, projecting her own failures on large groups of other people/ IMHO.

Congressman Billybob

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9 posted on 04/17/2002 4:41:39 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob
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To: sleavelessinseattle
who has dreams and is steadfast, its time to pitch your tent...A little trust in a man is more powerful than any antidepressent and can move a mountain... Second that motion. I asked my new husband (previously dumped by career oriented female) on about the fifth morning of marriage, "What can I do to show respect for you today?"

Seven years and four children later, I am married to a very successful small business owner, respected community leader and beloved T-ball coach. I watch with glee as other men stop speaking to listen to my husband's opinion. His ex looks like she sucks lemons when we attend the same events and sniffs that he married a housemouse that can do nothing but breed.

10 posted on 04/17/2002 4:42:52 PM PDT by Valpal1
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
"What do successful men want? Typically, a good-looking women who is kind."

The most profound disillusionment of my life was coming to realize how very rare kindness is among women. I really have never gotten over it. I now realize that what I always thought was kindness was just a common feminine pose, superficial and not even a little bit sincere. It's a dang shame, worse than the Santa Claus thing.

Now, regarding the common sentiment that men don't like strong women because they threaten their egos: who would want to come home to an adversary? Why would anyone want to live like that? I want home to be a place to recharge, a refuge from the vicissitudes of a brutal world. Why would I look for someone who "dares" me to love her?

Many women teach themselves the wrong things with their own actions. Women who act competetively or in an adversarial maner toward men will only attract men with ego issues, because who else would want romance to be an ego challenge? Why would a man with a healthy ego seek out that kind of stress? So these women "teach" themselves through their own experience that men have sick egos.

But don't tell them that ...

11 posted on 04/17/2002 4:49:35 PM PDT by Yeti
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To: Congressman Billybob
Well said. For my part, my wife is the smartest person I know, as I regularly tell her and anyone else I can get to listen. It's true!

Of course, the proof of her smartness is obvious--she married me!

12 posted on 04/17/2002 4:50:21 PM PDT by Hebrews 11:6
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To: Yeti
I can't agree with you on the strong woman part. I'll settle for a smart woman who is attracted to me and who obeys mutually agreed upon rules for fighting. I like some of the Mars/Venus principles. Things like getting issues out in the open FAST and being able to table irreconcilable issues and stick to current debates. There is nothing better than a real heartfelt debate and rapproachment, Brother, and I've got the broken boxspring to prove it|-D
13 posted on 04/17/2002 5:33:05 PM PDT by sleavelessinseattle
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To: IronJack
Hey, bud, I was 33 when I married my husband, and very self sufficient - that's one reason he married me! DUH! I'm still very self sufficient, but it's nice to have support from BOTH partners. (If you only knew...... :)
14 posted on 04/17/2002 6:02:55 PM PDT by goodnesswins
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To: IronJack
And, furthermore....the dirty little secret is women have more CONTROL when they aren't distracted with a more than full-time, professional job outside the home.
15 posted on 04/17/2002 6:09:03 PM PDT by goodnesswins
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Yeti, there are lots of women who never want the relationship to move beyond the courtship phase, the phase where you have to constantly try to impress her.
16 posted on 04/17/2002 6:21:26 PM PDT by Tokhtamish
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To: goodnesswins
My entire point was that a woman's choice to make a career or a home should be one that SHE makes, not one thrust upon her by a man, her family, or even tradition.
17 posted on 04/17/2002 6:26:09 PM PDT by IronJack
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Hey, I have a "career" and a homelife, that's what's so great....I get to be politically active, write, manage finances, be active in community organizations, and act as "general contractor" among other things. And, yes, it was DEFINITELY MY decision.....It's just that I define my CAREER by what I do, not by MY JOB outside of home.
18 posted on 04/17/2002 6:53:27 PM PDT by goodnesswins
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To: IronJack
Whatever happened to "The hand that rocks the cradle, rules the world"? That is as true today as ever I believe. Just not practiced enough. Women want to be able to rock the cradle AND rule the world. Pretty hard. I'd say pertnear impossible. Why can't we just have "traditional" roles? Why? Did God not make us male and female? Why did He make us two sexes?

Don't get me wrong Ironjack, I'm no philosopher. I just ask questions.

19 posted on 04/17/2002 7:10:32 PM PDT by mc5cents
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To: sleavelessinseattle
I can't agree with you on the strong woman part. I'll settle for a smart woman who is attracted to me and who obeys mutually agreed upon rules for fighting

Okay, rereading my earlier post, I find that I rambled without ever getting to my actual point. The issue has a tendency to cloud my reason.

Anyway, the point I was going to make was that "strong" and adversarial are only synonyms to feminists.

I want a strong woman, if only because a person has to be strong to be trustworthy. But I do not want a shrew or a b*tch or someone who always wants to argue.

I do not want someone who needs to bloat her own ego at the expense of mine. Oops, I mean bloat her self-esteem at the expense of my ego.

It is not healthy, it would certainly be clear to everyone that it is abusive if we were talking about men giving women a hard time in life, and I won't live like that.

Regarding the kiss-and-make-up aspect of arguing: it's cute to talk about that, especially in young lovers, but the cycle does not lead anywhere good in the long run. Sometimes you might make-up and f*ck a little harder than usual, some other times you might fight a little harder than usual, too. In reality it is very dangerous little game to play.

Oh, and I said I want a strong woman -- let me also say that I really need a smart woman. While smart can be dangerous and intimidating, I find that smarter women are generally more inclined to play fair, and a good intellect is a useful resource in a relationship. Besides it makes for more interesting pillow talk.

20 posted on 04/18/2002 3:12:40 AM PDT by Yeti
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