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Amid the ruins of Jenin, the grisly evidence of a war crime
UK Independent ^ | April 16, 2002 | Phil Reeves in Jenin

Posted on 04/16/2002 12:37:59 AM PDT by Jurist

Amid the ruins of Jenin, the grisly evidence of a war crime

- Phil Reeves in Jenin, 16 April 2002
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A monstrous war crime that Israel has tried to cover up for a fortnight has finally been exposed. Its troops have caused devastation in the centre of the Jenin refugee camp, reached yesterday by The Independent, where thousands of people are still living amid the ruins.....

Building after building has been torn apart, their contents of cheap fake furnishings, mattresses, white plastic chairs spewed out into the road. Every other building bears the giant, charred, impact mark of a helicopter missile. Last night there were still many families and weeping children still living amid the ruins, cut off from the humanitarian aid. Ominously, we found no wounded, although there was a report of a man being rescued from beneath ruins only an hour before we arrived.

Those who did not flee the camp, or not detained by the army, have spent the bombardment in basements, enduring day after day of terror. Some were forced into rooms by the soldiers, who smashed their way into houses through the walls. The UN says half of the camp's 15,000 residents were under 18. As the evening hush fell over these killing fields, we could suddenly hear the children chattering. The mosques, once so noisy at prayer time, were silent.

Israel was still trying to conceal these scenes yesterday. It had refused entry to Red Cross ambulances for nearly a week, in violation of the Geneva Convention. Yesterday it continued to try to keep us out. Jenin, in the northern end of the occupied West Bank, remained "a closed military zone", was ringed Merkava tanks, army Jeep patrols, and armoured personnel carriers. Reporters caught trying to get in were escorted out....


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Israel; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: battle; civilians; israel; jenin; massacre; palestine; refugeecamp; slaughter; surround; tanks
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While the Foreign press is picking up on this, American press coverage is very bland indeed.

Question: what happened?

If indeed an atrocity has been committed, the blame - rightly or wrongly -- will be placed on America's shoulders.

It is only a short step from there to see that any vengeance to be had will be visited upon Americans.

1 posted on 04/16/2002 12:37:59 AM PDT by Jurist
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To: Jurist
While the Foreign press is picking up on this

What, pray tell, is 'this'. The only action being alleged is that there are buildings that have been blown up. Since when is that a war crime?

2 posted on 04/16/2002 12:42:11 AM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla
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To: Jurist
To put it politely, this article is pure balogna. The allegations are utterly rediculous. The only mistake the Israelis made was in not allowing the journalists in to be killed by the pali boobytraps and snipers or to be blown away by suicide bombers.
3 posted on 04/16/2002 12:44:35 AM PDT by Lion's Cub
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To: Jurist
If indeed an atrocity has been committed, the blame - rightly or wrongly -- will be placed on America's shoulders.

Ridiculous.

4 posted on 04/16/2002 12:45:12 AM PDT by PRND21
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To: Jurist
Don't worry, our wonderful liberal media will be on this shortly. However, I can't cry about this - they brought this on themselves. Anyone who blows up innocent women and children deserve what they get in return. The bleeding hearts of the world will never face the fact that Arabs are living in another century, they do not value human life, and they are evil. If that's Arab-bashing, so be it.
5 posted on 04/16/2002 12:47:09 AM PDT by Elkiejg
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To: Jurist
I think we lost a building and many lives on September 11.

Now that was a war crime!!

6 posted on 04/16/2002 12:49:15 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
Since the palestinian coward/pu$$ies LOST their war against Israel. The loser ALWAYS cries FOUL.

Israel will be accused continuously UNTIL some legal/national opeation finds a means to charge the leaders with war crimes. Israel has played the fool, trying to be "merciful" and should have bombed from the air as we did in afghanistan... leaving so little that resembles human remains and building structures, that no credible evidence exists... and none of the remaining sour grapes losers who started THIS war by sacrificing their children to sadaams money for murder scheme.

They all needed to die... alexander said "NEVER leave an enemy standing.... never" and he was right.

7 posted on 04/16/2002 12:52:37 AM PDT by Robert_Paulson2
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To: Jurist
If indeed an atrocity has been committed, the blame - rightly or wrongly -- will be placed on America's shoulders.

The sheep obeyed orders yesterday and marched down to DC to wave Israeli flags and get their pictures taken. Pictures which will be shown in every Muslim nation. Americans cheering on the IDF interspersed with pictures of dead children (if there are no dead kids, Arabs will create some. If there were not war crimes, that doesn't matter either. Arabs will say there were. These imagines Americans so willingly gave them are too good to pass up).

8 posted on 04/16/2002 12:55:26 AM PDT by LarryLied
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To: Jurist
No one in the press really knows what happened. We will know shortly however. I don't think the Israelis are dumb enough to kill hundreds and bulldoze them while the world opinion is waiting to pounce on them. I think this is the brutality of war filtered through Arab witnesses, and then further speculated upon by journalists who want access. They will force Israel to give them access by printing these stories or inflame the Arabs further. I'm sure all Arabs believe this story unquestionably and will be immune to any evidence denying it. If it's true you won't find the same immunity to evidence in the west.
9 posted on 04/16/2002 12:56:10 AM PDT by Birdwatcher
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To: Jurist
Remember these are the same folks who claim our treatment of prisoners at Gitmo is a war crime as well.
10 posted on 04/16/2002 12:59:40 AM PDT by garbanzo
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
No it was not... because arabs/musli cannot be war criminals for they are religious and oppressed zealots... and we are clearly the aggressors... it MUST be true.. the mighty leftist press, run by the marxists of the planet, say so. The side with the highest death toll, does not surrender in this war... no the one that can convince the rest of the world that THEY are victims... and that they have lost the most people. The side with the least dead and wounded, loses... and palestinians cannot bear to lose.

America is evil. Israel is evil. Democracy and freedom from terrorists is evil... only the hate and murderous jihad of communists and islamists is good...

We clearly deserve their hatred and anger, for we are the mighty haves, and they are the myriads of have nots. Their mighty god... "kill your kids" will have his revenge on us evil "promoters of license and immorality." That is what it is, because they SAY so... and they MUST be telling the truth, for they are the mighty, the invincible, the poorest bastards on the face of the earth, now sanctified by worldwide sainthood via the title of "VICTIMS." < /sarcasm >

YES, the palestinians have inflated the death toll numbers, by killing their own people... and will now blame their dead children, who they have sacrificed to the god of victimhood status, on Israelis defending their homes from invading murderors.

11 posted on 04/16/2002 1:01:55 AM PDT by Robert_Paulson2
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To: LarryLied
Yes, good heavens, why can't those Jew-lovers keep their heads down, for chrissake?
12 posted on 04/16/2002 1:02:14 AM PDT by The Great Satan
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To: Jurist
Imagine how they would feel watching the U.S. population dancing in the streets with joy. I can.
13 posted on 04/16/2002 1:02:37 AM PDT by Dalsmi
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To: Birdwatcher
Maybe the evidence will surface around the same time as the evidence from all those "massacres" in Kosovo.

I don't know....but several people including myself suspected this strategy of "war crimes" would be use, and lo and behold, here it is....if it worked against Slobo, what's good for the goose is good for the gander, or some stupid cliche like that...

14 posted on 04/16/2002 1:03:34 AM PDT by Frances_Marion
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To: Jurist
Ominously, we found no wounded, although there was a report of a man being rescued from beneath ruins only an hour before we arrived.

...As the evening hush fell over these killing fields...

This is unbelievable. "Ominously," they don't even find anyone wounded. So they label it a "war crime," with "killing fields." What a blatant example of media spin.

15 posted on 04/16/2002 1:04:33 AM PDT by john in missouri
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To: Robert_Paulson2
Good rant!
16 posted on 04/16/2002 1:05:03 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: LarryLied
Pictures which will be shown in every Muslim nation.

Well Larry, when they come for us, are you going to run to them yelling "I'm on your side! I'm on your side!?" It does not matter if you agree with our strategy or our tactics. This is a war between civilizations, soon to be a full-fledged war, possibly on a scale exceeding WWI and WWII. The only thing that can stop it now will be a preemptive takeout strike by us or surrender on our parts. When the balloon goes up, you are either going to be in the trenches with us, and the Jews, or you are going to be in the trenches with the Islamists. Neutrals will be shot at by both sides, so you will have to decide which side you are on.

17 posted on 04/16/2002 1:05:22 AM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla
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To: Jurist
It is only a short step from there to see that any vengeance to be had will be visited upon Americans.

Can I have some fries with that "vengeance"?

We are still talking about the same Palestenians that danced on the streets on 9/11, aren't we?

I have less than zero sympathy.

18 posted on 04/16/2002 1:06:32 AM PDT by The Duke
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To: LarryLied
These imagines Americans so willingly gave them are too good to pass up).

Right, let's give in to the terrorists and cease to gather anywhere in the USA.

At least we (civilized humans) don't dance in the streets at the news of death.

19 posted on 04/16/2002 1:13:57 AM PDT by kattracks
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
"I'm on your side! I'm on your side!?"

roflmao. twas funny.

20 posted on 04/16/2002 1:16:22 AM PDT by Robert_Paulson2
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