Police identify second robbery suspect (update to passerby shhoys robery suspect)

The Herald of Everett, Washington ^ | Monday, April 15 | Jim Haley

[TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig]

Man who shot at suspects not investigated yet, police chief says

By Jim Haley
Herald Writer

SNOHOMISH -- Police believe they have identified a second suspect in a violent jewelry store robbery Friday, and hope to have him in custody as early as today.

Police chief Rob Sofie said on Sunday his officers have developed information pointing to a Seattle man, but they don't know exactly where he is.

"We feel an arrest can take place (this) morning sometime," Sofie said.

The first suspect was shot in the arm and arrested after two men wielding a gun, hammer and pepper spray burst into Sachi Fine Jewelry midday Friday. The wounded suspect was taken into custody, but Sofie said he was bailed out of jail over the weekend.

A 52-year-old employee of the jewelry store was struck in the head with the hammer and was being treated at a Seattle hospital. A second employee was treated after being sprayed with pepper spray.

Police caught the wounded 18-year-old robbery suspect after he was shot in the arm.

The robbers were confronted by a man from a nearby business who came armed with a pistol. The unidentified businessman at first tried to disable the getaway car. When that didn't work, he fired into the car, wounding an occupant.

The second suspect fled on foot after the getaway car was abandoned in Snohomish with a flat tire.

The getaway car and a gun the robbers left in the jewelry store were reported stolen in King County, Sofie said.

Sofie bristled at a published report in a Seattle newspaper that his office is looking into bringing charges against the businessman who wounded the suspect. He said no attention has been paid to that yet, and any final decision would be up to the Snohomish County prosecutor's office.

"We are focusing 99.9 percent on the robbery and putting the bad guys in jail," Sofie said. "That's where our attention is being devoted."

The Snohomish man who fired at the suspects has been cooperative, but "we don't have all the details yet."

The department doesn't know if the man felt that his life or someone else's was in danger, circumstances where "deadly force is permissible."

All the energy has been focused on the robbery, Sofie said. "We've devoted zero resources to" that part of the investigation.

[TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig]

It looks like the Seattle paper was just wishing for the passerby to get charged.

[TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig]

fyi

[TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig]

fyi/ follow up

[TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig]

An update for you folks

[randog]

Thanks for the update, Big. You mentioned in your last post that there was a picture of the perp in the paper--anything online yet?

I agree--the Seattle newspaper is more upset that their finest citizens are being shot at, but that's to be expected.

[TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig]

They never posted the photo online. Maybe I should ask them to do it?

[CWRWinger]

The Seattle area Democrats have now lost at least one vote (wounded perp) and their buddies in the communist press are looking to charge an innocent man. They (communist press) must really be ticked at a citizen returning the rule of law to his community.

[Travis McGee]

Sounds like this police chief has the rightr priorites!

[TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig]

Here are some contact numbers for the people involved in this case.

James Krider, Prosecuting Attorney
3000 Rockefeller Av., M/S 504
Everett, WA 98201
(425) 388-3333
prosecuting.attorney@co.snohomish.wa.us

Suggested action: E-Mail, phone, & snail mail outrage regarding harassment of citizen hero.
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Jason Milsom
Black Cat Antique Mall
1019 1st St
Snohomish, WA 98290-2908
Phone: (360)568-814

"I don't think he did anything wrong; I don't think he should be punished, But I don't think everyone should run around with guns. In this case, it worked out OK. But it could have turned out much different."

Suggested action: If you MUST, and I believe it detracts from focus and has some real downsides, contact via SNAIL MAIL with
****POLITE***
comments and regrets regarding your lack of interest in future shopping in his families facility. Consider, however, that his comment was anything but rabidly anti-gun, and that hassling him may do us more damage than good.
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R.R."Rick" Bart
Snohomish County Sheriff
3000 Rockefeller, M/S 606
Everett, WA 98201

Suggested action: The Snohomish County Sheriff is an elected office. It likely would not harm anything to fire a quick and polite missive off to the Sheriff expressing your concern that law enforcement resources are being utilized to harass a private citizen who acted laudably to apprehend multiple violent felons. NOTE: The Sheriff is not likely directly involved in this case, since Snohomish has its' own police department.
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Chief Rob Sofie
230 Maple Ave
Snohomish, WA 98290
(360)568-0888
sofie@ci.snohomish.wa.us

Suggested action: Vigorous but polite contact by all means listed above regarding your concern about the utilization of law enforcement resources to harass a private citizen acting laudably in an effort to apprehend multiple violent felons. Chief Sofie and the Prosecuting Attorney need to be primary points of contact, as they will be making decisions regarding this case.

I didn't assemble this info.. It was sent to me via a local CCW and 2nd ammendment lobbying source.

Don't be rude please, as sugar catches more flies than vinegar and all that old wisdom crap.

[umgud]

THX for update.....

[metesky]

Thanks for the ping, ern.

[CWRWinger]

Thanks for the info. I printed it out and will come back to it after I calm down.

[toddst]

The department doesn't know if the man felt that his life or someone else's was in danger, circumstances where "deadly force is permissible."

Well, at least the "department" has provided our hero with the right words to use. Sure this citizen knew these robbers were a danger to "someone else." If this goes to trial, the jury probably won't leave the court room to vote - NOT GUILTY.

Thanks for the update.

[Crowcreek]

Thanks -- I go past this area on the way to Bellingham and points north, the 203/2 'shortcut' from I-90 to Everett/I-5.

As I understand Washington self-defense law, shooting could be justified if someone ELSE'S life or person are in danger; This opens up the whole 'vigilante' pantie-twister for the liberal media, and gives the local authorities a little discretion.

If there was a group of senior citizens in a crosswalk, the good sam could have tossed a molatov coctail into the getaway car, and come out of the deal looking pretty good . . .

[Robert357]

I find it facinating that so many in the liberal media and in government are terrorized by Vigilantee Justice! I remember a few years ago when the Snohomish County prosecutor said he didn't have enought money to procesecute anything but the most violent crimes and would no longer procesecute burlary unless the County Council gave him more funds. The Sherrif said that if they won't prosecute, he won't send deputies to arrest. A few folks said fine, we will arm ourselves and protect ourselves and all heck broke loose in the newspaper.

If the report I heard was correct (I don't believe everything in read in the newspaper) the good citizen fired a fair number of shots. Knowing that one of the critical rules of firearms safety is to know what is behind your target, I am hoping that the newspaper account, might not be true or the Snohomish river was directly behind the fleeing felons.

I think it is important for armed citizens to step forward to protect people, but I also think that restraint and judgement are very important. Because no innocent bystander was insured, I will assume that the person knew what they were doing. I do feel that the police are right in emphasizing that putting violent crooks in jail is the first priority.

[TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig]

As I read it the guy fired between 3 and 5 shots and at least two of those were into the tires and one or more were into the car's passenger compartment.

I think trying to shoot out tires is an incredible stupid thing unless you can walk up to the car's tires and give it a muzzle shot. Even then it's not a very smart idea.

[Robert357]

I think trying to shoot out tires is an incredible stupid thing unless....

I agree with you completely, bullets shot at a low angle bouncing off pavement sends the hair on the back of my neck on end. On this one, I hope the police lecture the guy on firearms safety and deside "no harm no foul," assuming the guy isn't a state pistol champion or something.

Let's hear if for years of having firearm safety drilled into folks heads!

[eeman]

Thanks for the update, given the Pacific NW penchant for PC'ism, I am not as optimistic as you that they will not go after the citizen/hero

[TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig]

You have to understand that the further you get from Downtown Seattle, the conservative base increases exponentially. That is, assuming you are not near a major college campus such as in Bellingham (Wester Washington University, home to the states most respected **smirk** school of education) or Olypia (Evergreen State College, the Berkely of the North, Mumia guest speaker at commencement and home to many leftist wackos). The Rats took total control of the state government this last election and failed to get a single gun safety/control/registration/assault weapon ban/increased waiting period/safe storage law, of any kind, out of committee this legislative session.

That is due to the Rats from rural Eastern Washington would all be bounced out of office if they voted for any such measures.

[Robert357]

There is a new article in today's Herald on the Snohomish Robbery that makes me feel alot better about the armed citizen and his firearms judgment. It sounds like all shots could have been fired at very close range in a way that would prevent unintended bystanders from being at risk.

"I hollered, 'Help! Help!' I was unaware he was armed," Jorgensen said.

The merchant pulled his gun and tried to stop to robbers from leaving and pointed the gun at them with both hands, Jorgensen said. The pair didn't stop.

"He then went around to the driver's side of the car. I believe he fired two shots into the (left front) tire. They at that point attempted to back up and he jumped out of the way to avoid them. He then fired a shot into the driver's side window," Jorgensen said.

If this is an accurate account, I can visualize how the armed merchant used his firearm in a way that could be justified to the police. I still think that trying to shoot out the tire was a questionable Hollywood-type move. I will assume that the merchant was afraid that the thief was trying to run over him, when he shot at the thief. Again, I hope that nothing bad happens to the merchant. The good news is that it sounds like the two crooks are identified and will be eventually behind bars soon.

I can not believe they let one guy go on bail, after a violent crime involing a hammer to the head and a firearm! I also hope that someone asked the feds to step in on the use of the dropped stolen firearm during a felony and makes this a federal crime as well as a state crime.