[dennisw]

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[flamefront]

Excellent book -- I'm in the middle of it right now after Tancredo recommended it.

One of my favorite quotes is at the beginning from Michael Dibdin's "Dead Lagoon":

"There can be no true friends without true enemies. Unless we hate what we are not, we cannot love what we are. These are the old truths we are painfully rediscovering after a century and more of sentimental cant. Those who deny them deny their family, their heritage, their culture, their bithright, their very selves! They will not lightly be forgiven."

[don-o]

Bump.

It is a great read. Wonder if Dubya has a clue.

Kinda makes it clear who the West should be and not be in bed with.

Granted they got the oil, but at what cost do we kowtow to their values?

[Free the USA]

I have read the book, I may come back and read this to see if there is anything new or different. My problem with Profesor Huntington is that he sees no superiority in Western society over the current incarnation of Muslim or Confucian society. He sees all societies as equal with western society having reached its peak and in decline while both China and Islam are in their ascendency. This is partially true but the superiority of western ideals can allow us to survive and win the Clash of Civilizations.

[Pagey]

1994 this was written? "The next world war, if there is one, will be a war between civilizations"It looks like I have some serious reading in different areas, to catch up on.

[Enlightiator]

I am not impressed at all with this piece by Huntington, it is not an accurate portrayal of either the history of the cultural dynamics of the various cultures. True, the Muslims almost to the country move in "kinship" against any perceived NON-Muslim threats, but they also on occassion turn on each other. The West however, is has gone to the aid of Muslim countries quite often, even when in retrospect, it should have been aiding the other side of the conflict who were in some cases fighting against the same Islamic extremism that we have experienced in the US.

[Valin]

China, North Korea and several Middle Eastern states, however, are significantly expanding their military capabilities. They are doing this by the import of arms from Western and non-Western sources and by the development of indigenous arms industries. One result is the emergence of what Charles Krauthammer has called "Weapon States," and the Weapon States are not Western states.

You can have the weapons but if you don't have the underlying society to properly use these weapons it really doesn't do any good. As Victor Hanson Davis points out in his latest book, using Japan as an example. You could also use the 4 Arab-Israeli wars, in each of them the arabs had the best weapons they could buy and still lost to the Israelis.

[kapn kuek]

1. Conflict along the fault line between Western and Islamic civilizations has been going on for 1,300 years.
2. Islam has bloody borders.

Sad that more people don’t realize these facts. I myself didn’t understand the truth till many months after the 911 attacks.

[anatolfz]

Thank you, dennisw; I think I've read this before and now it's good to have it on hand.

[dalebert]

thanks for the ping