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Live Thread: President Bush and Prime Minister Blair Press Conference, Noon EST, 4/6/02
self | Saturday, April 6, 2002 | Kristinn

Posted on 04/06/2002 7:49:04 AM PST by kristinn

Live from Crawford, Texas, it's the George and Tony show.

Will George slap Bill and Yasser around again like he did last night? Will Tony come off as George's toy poodle? Will the press be their usual boorish selves ? Is Helen Thomas there ?

The answer to these and other questions will be answered at Noon eastern time.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: arafat; crawford; israel; palestine; peace; sharon; stickywicket; terrorism; war
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To: Buckeroo
"So why is America the world cop? When you answer this question in a realistic fashion, you will understand the riddle."

I don't necessarily see America as the world cop but I take it you do and you think we shouldn't be. So, if not us, then who ? France ? Turkey ? How about North Korea ? China ? Pick one.

181 posted on 04/06/2002 12:34:15 PM PST by Darlin'
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To: Wphile
You are a FRiggin idiot. I said that we abide by our Constitution and if, as a nation, we feel compelled that war is emminent, that we declare it, as such. No more government "poo-poo."
182 posted on 04/06/2002 12:39:06 PM PST by Buckeroo
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To: Buckeroo
You love government to terrorize the basic mechanism for the creation of the greatest method of individual liberty upon this planet.

What the h*ll? WAIT, I GOT IT. You are AL Gore. Only Al Gore can speak like this. Yes, that's it. Only Al Gore can make such a mockery of a statement such as this.

Oh, BTW, ohioWfan is NOT a NWO wannabe. Guess you got tired of the "world's policeman" cliche, unless of course, we first declare war. So, now it's back to the NWO.

Sorry, Charlie...you have wasted WAAAAY too much of my time. See ya.

183 posted on 04/06/2002 12:41:25 PM PST by Wphile
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To: Buckeroo
Howdy

Thanks for debating with me.

As I go, I hope to return later and see information from you, please:

I can not make any connection between any loss of individual liberty and the war on terror.

Yes, temporary concessions have to be made as long as bomb throwing lunatics are scurrying around the world trying to launch disintegrating bodies into the air, but that is not an effect of the war on terror, it is the CAUSE. If you decry the abridgement of the human right not to be torn asunder and flung flaming to the four winds, it would appear you argue in favor of prosecuting the war on terror to an early and complete victory.

So, how can you assert that we lose one whit of individual liberty as a consequence of denying terrorists access to the women and children they are intent upon slaughtering?

Cause that dog dont hunt, unless some glaring truth escapes me.

Thanks

184 posted on 04/06/2002 12:42:32 PM PST by MoscowMike
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To: Darlin'
We have military forces deployed all over the world. We are everywhere. Why? We are a nation of 1/3 billion folks and the world population is about 50 billion.

Why does America have to take charge? Why does America have to play world cop?

185 posted on 04/06/2002 12:44:23 PM PST by Buckeroo
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To: El Gato
"It's only a 10 mile pullback, and can be reversed in less than 24 hrs if necessary."

At what cost in the lives of IDF soldiers, and both Israeli and Palestinian civlians?

Sadly, perhaps at great cost. But the value of a firm US ally to Israel makes the risk worth it. Every idea I have heard is a long shot, and Bush's ideas sound as likely to work or even more likely than other options. If it works, lives will be spared. If it fails because of Palestinian duplicity, then a few more people will wake up (although many will remain in denial), and the necessary efforts to stop their behavior (and again save lives on all sides in the long run) can proceed.

186 posted on 04/06/2002 12:49:19 PM PST by Stirner
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To: MoscowMike;ohioWfan;Darlin';rintense
Thanks to you guys for putting into better words what I had attempted to say earlier...

I just ended up becoming so frustrated that I decided to go play Sims vacation for awhile instead...

Anyway...it was nice to come back and see some supportive posts

187 posted on 04/06/2002 12:50:16 PM PST by twyn1
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To: MoscowMike
" I can not make any connection between any loss of individual liberty and the war on terror. " -- MoscowMike

Aren't you a hoot. Ever read the Patriot Act that Bush signed into law? The government can make you a criminal for any reason it wants. And it defies the basis of our nation's history.

188 posted on 04/06/2002 12:52:18 PM PST by Buckeroo
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To: Buckeroo; Wphile
you love government to terrorize the basic mechanisim for the creation of the greatest method of individual liberty upon this planet.

Perhaps you should return to your planet of origin.

Pearls before swine, Wphile. Definitely not worth your time. The boy hasn't got a single thought in his head, and he's proven it with every post.

189 posted on 04/06/2002 12:54:31 PM PST by ohioWfan
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To: Buckeroo
Why does America have to take charge? Why does America have to play world cop?

Circumlocution: (cir·cum·lo·cu·tion, sûrkm-l-kyshn) n.

The use of unnecessarily wordy and indirect language.
Evasion in speech or writing.
A roundabout expression.

190 posted on 04/06/2002 12:56:22 PM PST by rintense
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To: rintense
Believe in government power? It all breaks down in time.
191 posted on 04/06/2002 1:01:03 PM PST by Buckeroo
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To: ohioWfan, rintense, wphile
Methinks Buckaroo is one of those Democrats that likes to play around on FR and stir it up. He probably voted enthusiastically for Gore in 2000 and would do so again in a heartbeat. There's a handful of them on FR and they're usually the posters or head cheerleaders on the Bush-bashing threads that were springing up like crocuses just a week or two ago. I wonder what handle Buckaroo uses over at DU? :)
192 posted on 04/06/2002 1:01:21 PM PST by Allegra
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To: Buckeroo
Howdy

I really need to disengage and get some work done, but I appreciate you elucidating upon your perspective.

OK you dont like the measures taken in furtherance of our war on terror on the home front, and I agree, these measures are an unwanted consequence of the imperitive to impede mass murder.

Far greater were the sacrifices made by the American public to deny global dominion to hitler in World War Two, everybody was very very happy when that conflict ended.

But people also had sufficient generosity of spirit to endure those sacrifices, to the point of having to go to jail for purchasing an extra stick of butter. God Bless those wonderful people.

I hope that only a few among us are too small of heart to accept any sacrifice to rid the world of the virulent evil we confront today, even as we all hope for an early victory.

Were the cause unjust, these miniscule sacrifices would be antithetical to the cause of freedom, but the blood of innocents leaves us no choice but to condemn, confront, and crush the threat of global terror. To do otherwise would be to accept complicity in the next act of infamy, and that is a condition we can not accept. The natural human right to not be torn to pieces so that some totalitarian freak can revel over the bloody corpses of his victims compels us to end these inhuman acts.

If you do not wish to make any sacrifices under the Patriot Act, I suggest that you avoid acting on any impulse to hurl women and children skyward with explosives. If you can find the generosity of spirit to forebear from aiding the purpetrators of mass murder form accomplishing their goal of killing every free human being on the planet, I trust that you will find your "natural rights" wholly intact.

I wish you good fortune as you endeavour to avoid making any sacrifices for your freedom, and I hope that you can accept the sacrifices of the servicemen who have died to protect you from a grisly end in good grace.

193 posted on 04/06/2002 1:07:20 PM PST by MoscowMike
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To: Buckeroo
world population is about 50 billion.

Is it? Bleeding 'ell, I thought it was crowded in Tesco's the other day, now I know why.

194 posted on 04/06/2002 1:08:15 PM PST by Da_Shrimp
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To: Buckeroo
We are a nation of 1/3 billion folks and the world population is about 50 billion.

Actually the world population is about 6 billion, not 50 billion.

Why does America have to take charge? Why does America have to play world cop?

As to why America "has" to take charge, if we don't, some other country will, and that's the simple truth. That's just the reality of the world. The survival of the fittest. Global politics is a lot like the laws of the jungle.

195 posted on 04/06/2002 1:08:47 PM PST by wimpycat
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To: MoscowMike
re: your post#193

You sound like a GDamned socialist.

196 posted on 04/06/2002 1:09:48 PM PST by Buckeroo
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To: Allegra
Good possibility, Allegra. Leftists can't think rationally, and this guy sure can't either.

But if he is, indeed an algore lacky, he won't be too successful in convincing any of the 80% of Americans who approve of President Bush to vote against him by saying that the President shouldn't stand strong for America and fight terrorism, now will he? He's a loser either way.

197 posted on 04/06/2002 1:11:05 PM PST by ohioWfan
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To: MoscowMike
You are FANTASTIC!!! Brilliant, even........and oh, so polite in the face of idiocy!

Thank you for an enjoyable afternoon! Have a great evening............ (and wipe that grin off your face!) :o)

198 posted on 04/06/2002 1:16:06 PM PST by ohioWfan
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To: wimpycat
You are the reason why America is being sucked into the UN. You believe in a higher government.
199 posted on 04/06/2002 1:16:47 PM PST by Buckeroo
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To: MadIvan
Ping
200 posted on 04/06/2002 1:20:53 PM PST by Brian Allen
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