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[Los Angeles Cardinal] Mahony E-Mail Talks of 'Our Big Mistake'
Los Angeles Times ^ | 04/05/2002 | JESSICA GARRISON, Times Staff Writer

Posted on 04/05/2002 6:59:52 PM PST by Mike Fieschko

Edited on 09/03/2002 4:50:15 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Cardinal Roger M. Mahony of the Los Angeles Archdiocese told one of his lawyers in a recent e-mail that the diocese made 'our big mistake' by not turning over three cases involving priests accused of wrongdoing to the LAPD, according to e-mails obtained Thursday by the Los Angeles Times.


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KEYWORDS: catholiclist; coverup; homosexualpriests; lies; priorrestraint; romancatholic
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp
Your pastor is magnificent.

I do not understand all of the stories about kneelers being removed from churches and the Tabernacle being put in broom closets. Surely when you take away the Tabernacle and set up a Presider's Chair where the Tabernacle was - surely you have the Abomination of desolation.

61 posted on 04/06/2002 1:08:10 PM PST by father_elijah
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To: sinkspur
"The Latin Mass is a novelty, Father. The norm in America is the vernacular Mass." Your words cut deeply. No Mass can be a novelty just as Transubstantiation can not be a footnote to a Catholic. Please, please pray and think. Peace.
62 posted on 04/06/2002 1:24:35 PM PST by Domestic Church
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To: Domestic Church
Sorry if I hurt your feelings, but the Latin Mass is not the "norm" in America, or anywhere else, for that matter.
63 posted on 04/06/2002 1:50:43 PM PST by sinkspur
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To: sinkspur; Domestic Church; goldenstategirl; Dr. Brian Kopp
The 1962 Missal is the norm for parishes served by the Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter, and by the St. John Cantius priests. Also, it is the norm in the Diocese of Campos in Brazil.Novus Ordo Missae -- the Mass of Paul VI -- is only normative in its Latin edition, and its "use{ in Latin is the norm in Vatican City and other places abroad. In reality, there is no "vernacular mass" -- there are only translations from the Latin original.
64 posted on 04/06/2002 3:14:30 PM PST by father_elijah
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To: father_elijah
In reality, there is no "vernacular mass" -- there are only translations from the Latin original.

A distinction without a difference.

65 posted on 04/06/2002 3:17:32 PM PST by sinkspur
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To: father_elijah
I wrote that piece of fiction for NOR sitting in our Adoration Chapel, before Jesus Christ present in the Holy Eucharist.

"I hope that this form of perpetual adoration, with permanent exposition of the Blessed Sacrament, will continue into the future. Specifically, I hope that the fruit of this Congress results in the establishment of Perpetual Eucharistic Adoration in all parishes and Christian communities throughout the world."

"The best, the sureset and the most effective way of establishing peace on the face of the earth is through the great power of Perpetual Adoration of the Blessed Sacrament."

--Pope John Paul II 45th International Eucharistic Congress in June 1993 in Seville Spain

66 posted on 04/06/2002 5:00:50 PM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: father_elijah
I do not understand all of the stories about kneelers being removed from churches and the Tabernacle being put in broom closets.

In a recent homily, my pastor mentioned a parish he had heard of that placed the Tabernacle OUTSIDE! That is the worst I have heard. In the parish I attend, the Tabernacle is front and center on the altar with a beautiful crucifix above it.

67 posted on 04/06/2002 5:47:55 PM PST by ELS
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp, father_elijah
Thank you both for your contributions to this thread. Catholics like you two, and Mother Angelica and her priests and nuns, in your steadfastness and reliance on Truth, are holding me together in these tumultuous times for the Church. Some days my faith is about as big as the proverbial mustard seed. Then I tune in to EWTN, watch and pray with Mother's priests at their Mass, and peace and quiet descend on my soul. Or I catch the recitation of the Rosary, or the Divine Mercy chaplet, and the raging storm ceases, my sould becomes anchored once again.
68 posted on 04/07/2002 7:54:53 PM PDT by Palladin
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To: Palladin
Your post is very kind, Palladin. We should pray the Chaplet of Divine Mercy every time we feel that storm brewing. As hard as these times are for faithful Catholics, it is also still the Age of the Divine Mercy of Jesus Christ. (EWTN is a wonderful antidote to the spiritual poisons that are about -- especially their broadcasts of Mass and the Chaplet and Rosary).

Jesus words to St. Faustina give us the best short prayer for this time: Jesus, I trust in you. Let us pray that very often during the day, together with the prayer Mother Teresa taught:
Jesus, alive in my heart, I love you.

69 posted on 04/07/2002 8:13:55 PM PDT by father_elijah
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To: sinkspur
As someone who worshipped with the Latin Mass, your attraction to it is strange and highly overrated.

Shame on you.

Misereatur tui omnipotens Deus, et dimissis peccatis tuis, perducat te ad vitam aeternam.

70 posted on 04/07/2002 8:31:43 PM PDT by John Locke
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To: father_elijah

71 posted on 04/07/2002 8:33:20 PM PDT by Askel5
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To: Askel5
Yes, Askel5?
72 posted on 04/07/2002 8:46:19 PM PDT by father_elijah
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To: John Locke
Shame on you.

Nah. I know what your Latin means, but lots of other folks don't.

It is the height of rudeness to use language that your audience doesn't know.

73 posted on 04/07/2002 9:17:05 PM PDT by sinkspur
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To: sinkspur
Be careful, sinkspur. You know not the day, nor the hour, when you shall stand in dire need of the prayers of others.
74 posted on 04/07/2002 10:26:24 PM PDT by John Locke
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To: Palladin
Thanks Palladin, sincerely.
75 posted on 04/07/2002 11:13:04 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Palladin; Father_Elijah
Some days my faith is about as big as the proverbial mustard seed

And too many days my faith is as wide as the Nile, but as shallow as an oil slick.

I too cling to the Divine Mercy Chaplet, and a constant prayer is "Jesus, have Mercy on us!"

Any time anyone comes into my thoughts, first I try to remember to pause and pray, "Lord have Mercy on this child of yours," for they may be in a moment of need or desperation, and they may have been called into our conscious thoughts by our guardian angels for just such a reason.

Lets all continue to pray for each other in this Catholic community developing here on FR.

76 posted on 04/07/2002 11:21:13 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp
For the sake of His sorrowful passion,
have mercy on us and on the whole world.
77 posted on 04/08/2002 3:25:18 AM PDT by father_elijah
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