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"Red Mercury and The Strange Case of Delmart Vreeland"
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| 04 01 02
| JR Nyquist
Posted on 04/02/2002 1:21:21 AM PST by lavaroise
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Whatever side you may be on regarding Vreeland, you have to be very careful. One thing is for sure, Space Challenger blew up because of lack of communication about a suspected problem.
Let us not do the same mistake as NASA's or those denying the possibility of 911 as when it seemed Vreeland had predicted it. There are many leads, for sure, but it seems that the physics do allow the miniaturisation of explosives used to cause fusion.
What is interesting is that we have not looked at such technology nor sought to develop more powerful explosives. High tech luxury electronic weaponry won't cut it in a future war. Bismarkian jurisdiction over warfare will.
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posted on
04/02/2002 1:21:21 AM PST
by
lavaroise
To: It'salmosttolate
... or the myth of bloodless operations in today's civilized world.
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posted on
04/02/2002 1:22:45 AM PST
by
lavaroise
To: agent4cia
REd mercury hot fusion is much more plausible than cold fusion that many believe in at FR. Why? Because the former might be less flattering of our own lifestyles, while the latter is much more flattering to believe in.
Cold fusion hoax vs. Red Mercury scare. I take the latter.
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posted on
04/02/2002 1:57:03 AM PST
by
lavaroise
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To: lavaroise,flamefront,ChaseR,Paul Ross,Chapita,MizSterious,Uncle Bill,Wallaby,Fred Mertz
Sam Cohen told Chris Rudy in a 1997 interview ( I posted this again on FR last week) that weapons inspectors had found red mercury in Iraq. So Cohen has been conststent in repeating this story in his interview with Nyquist.
To: lavaroise
That must be where liberals come from!
Secret Russian brain poison!
To: lavaroise
Russia has successfully fabricated this compound using ultra high pressure technology, Cohen explained. You knock all these electrons out so its not the same atom. It didn't take too long for him to show his ignorance of nuclear physics. This is an urban legend.
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posted on
04/03/2002 12:10:27 PM PST
by
Brett66
To: Brett66; Physicist; MizSterious; Shermy; honway; Sal
Can you be more clear on why you declare Cohen's comments an urban legend? TIAdvance.
To: Fred Mertz
When he makes statements like this :
You knock all these electrons out so its not the same atom.
It's easy to see he doesn't understand basic nuclear physics. This sets off the alarm bells. At the very least he wouldn't understand if this Red Mercury works or not. He doesn't have a clue.
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posted on
04/03/2002 12:28:38 PM PST
by
Brett66
To: OKCSubmariner
Cohen is always consistent and will probably not change his story since he has nothing to change it now that he is outside the loop; it is getting Teller and co. to open up about the facts of their own analysis of the Russian red mercury they tested that is crucial IMO.
To: Brett66
Are you serious; you think he is not a top notch physicist?
To: flamefront
Based on his statements in this article, he doesn't seem to understand nuclear physics. Perhaps he's suffering from senility?
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posted on
04/03/2002 1:55:23 PM PST
by
Brett66
To: Brett66
It's easy to see he doesn't understand basic nuclear physics. This sets off the alarm bells. At the very least he wouldn't understand if this Red Mercury works or not. He doesn't have a clue. You need not confuse nuclear physics from chemestry. Red Mecury is a chemical agent, an explosive to cause high temperatures needed for fusion. Knocking electrons out not only increase the physical density of a compound (though the nuclear density remains the same), but morever it increases the energy release once external electrons fall back to their designed stable orbits that were emptied in the fabrication process.
That to me is conclusive of how modern conventional explosives could be created electronicaly.
To: Brett66, flamefront
Based on his statements in this article, he doesn't seem to understand nuclear physics. Perhaps he's suffering from senility? Red mercury is not nuclear, it is chemical conventional explosive manufactured artificially.
To: lavaroise;all
Just FWIW- I did a little searching on this, and didn't think there was enough to justify a standalone post.... here's what I found:
[PDF] 1 RED MERCURY: Hoax or the Ultimate Terrorist Weapon? By Edward V ...
Quackgrass Press: Special report: DDP 95
... the only visible scientific controversy was between Edward Teller and Sam Cohen,
and that was over a narrow technical issue: the existence of "red mercury.". ...
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML
Page 1. Counterterrorism Magazine 1 RED MERCURY: Hoax or the Ultimate Terrorist
Weapon? By Edward V. Badolato and Dale Andrade ...
WISE NC: MORE N-WEAPONS IN SOUTH AFRICA?
... WISE-Amsterdam - Peter Hounam and Steve McQuillan, authors of "The Mini-Nuke Conspiracy"
(published Oct. 19), told a news conference in Johannesburg that the ...
SADF linked to red mercury
SADF linked to red mercury, December 20, 1995. Stefaans
Brummer. DELTA G Scientific, formerly ...
The Hunt for Red Mercury
... THE HUNT FOR RED MERCURY -- 1 hour special. CTV,
Discovery US, FCI, ORF Co-production, 1993. ...
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Secrecy News 01/16/01
... SAM COHEN'S SHAME. "Are you in the mood for another nuclear security tale? Great!
This one has to do with one of the worst security violations I've ever ...
JDL: Action: JDL vs. Buchanan
... The JDL was shocked to see none other than famous scientist and Jew Sam Cohen, one
of the speakers at the rally, who contradicted us by stating his belief that ...
History Reference
... Boy: Birth of the Atomic Age; www.azstarnet.com/~schneik The Father of the Neutron
Bomb;
: The Life and Times of the Neutron Bomb Inventor; Sam Cohen ": ...
OKLAHOMA: HAVE YOU BEEN TOLD THE TRUTH
... In June of 1997, a statement was issued by Sam Cohen, renowned physicist who worked
on the Manhattan Project, said the fertilizer truck bomb is a fairy tale ...
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posted on
04/04/2002 3:35:03 AM PST
by
backhoe
To: lavaroise
A chemical explosive that initiates thermonuclear fusion. ROFLMAO!!
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posted on
04/04/2002 4:10:20 AM PST
by
Brett66
To: RightWhale,Physicist
Isn't the most powerful chemical explosive known a hydrogen-flourine combination?
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posted on
04/04/2002 4:13:12 AM PST
by
Brett66
To: Brett66
It has been done before. No kidding. The first 'boosting' of fission bombs involves chemical implosion of tritium (seated at the center of the plutonium/uranium sphere), which produces fusion neutrons to aid the multiplication rate of the fissioning. Also, the first *deliverable* H-bomb was the 'layer-cake' design by the Soviets which induced fusion by implosive means. Trouble is , these methods are very inefficient compared to photon implosion (you read right) methods.
That having been said, if red mercury is such an all-powerful explosive (allegedly capable of *efficiently* inducing fusion) why the hell not use the red mercury by itself as a 'conventional' explosive - as a sort of super-TNT? Why the folderal of adding lithium or some such? I gotta agree, it smacks of urban legend.
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posted on
04/04/2002 4:28:51 AM PST
by
NukeMan
To: Brett66
I would probably dismiss the existence of red mercury except for the assertions of Sam Cohen. Creator of the neutron bomb, he was one of our top nuclear physicists. At this stage in his life, what motivation could he have for spreading some silly hoax?
Senility is a possibility, but he seems to be quite alert and consistent in interviews.
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