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Coloring the Data --- Greens get caught red-handed committing scientific fraud.
Wall Street Journal ^ | Mar 27, 2002 | Pete DuPont

Posted on 03/28/2002 8:40:23 AM PST by gaelwolf

Edited on 04/23/2004 12:04:20 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: gaelwolf
Bump for later reading...
21 posted on 03/28/2002 10:28:34 AM PST by RedWing9
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To: Grampa Dave
Locator bump....
22 posted on 03/28/2002 10:55:40 AM PST by backhoe
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To: Hegewisch Dupa
HD posted, In the holy war against junk science

That is great, and I will steal that great line. Thanks!

We are in cultural and holy war against the lefties and the enviralists! We must not lose this war!

23 posted on 03/28/2002 10:59:06 AM PST by Grampa Dave
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To: gaelwolf
Excellent article! A keeper for future reference. Thanks.
24 posted on 03/28/2002 11:04:55 AM PST by meyer
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To: Grampa Dave
Bump!!
25 posted on 03/28/2002 11:09:04 AM PST by AuntB
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To: gaelwolf
But during that same period sulfur-dioxide emissions . . . have dropped by 39 percent . . .; volatile organic compounds . . . by 42 percent; carbon monoxide emissions . . . have dropped by 28 percent; and large particulate-matter emissions . . . by 75 percent." Not much of an environmental crisis in these data.

Not to rain on anyone's parade here, since I agree that cooking the data to serve the agenda is despicable, but these reductions would not have taken place without political effort to require things like scrubbers on copper smelters, catalytic converters on cars, or different fuels technology for gas turbines.

The last one is instructive. If you watch an old 707 take off, you'll see a huge trail. Watch a modern fan jet powered aircraft take off, and you'll hardly see anything. That's not an accident: it required significant changes in burner design, turbine design, and even the fuel composition.

DuPont is taking credit for things he opposed all along. While opposition may be good to moderate the demands of extremists, there's no reason conservatives can't be all for minimizing environmental impact without frivouously restraining trade. Since I've been involved with the design of machinery (like jet engines) for 20 years, I know that it can be done. If you don't believe me, compare the emissions of a 2002 Honda Accord with a 1973 Buick Skylark. And remember that in 1973 Detroit engineers were saying you couldn't build cars that get the mileage the Accord does and reduce the emissions.

So, who are the real luddites?

26 posted on 03/28/2002 11:15:09 AM PST by Regulator
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To: Grampa Dave
I am jobless as of March 15. No the loss of my job was strickly do to internal politics at the California State Grange. They have $300,000 that they can't find and they won't ask the 2 people who know where the money is. This would be like the Republicans asking the Democrats you know. So they decided that I was the most expendable person. They are misappropriating funds contrary to Grange law but nothing can be done until State session in Oct. Their house of cards will fall then but that won't save my job.

Know of anyone who needs a lobbyist?

27 posted on 03/28/2002 11:47:54 AM PST by farmfriend
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To: farmfriend
Incredible, $300,000 missing and noone is really wanting to find out where it went!

It is probably a good thing that you will be leaving them.

I don't know who needs a lobby person, but you might want to post a personal job type of ad in FR to see!

Good luck. I know that this won't help to pay the mortgage and buy groceries now, but things like this usually work out for the best. Just make sure that you are protected from any future actions on the missing money.

28 posted on 03/28/2002 11:55:43 AM PST by Grampa Dave
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To: Grampa Dave
Oh, I'm well pretected. The missing money thing is kind of comical really. The State Master was on the executive committee before his election and therefore responsible for the money but he doesn't know where to look. It is all in the financial stuff that he should have copies of. They could ask the former master but that would make him look bad or they are trying to pin something on her. One of the two. Also, a former committee member says he knows where it is too but he was a supporter of the former master and therefor they won't ask him either.

Games, political games.

29 posted on 03/28/2002 12:39:14 PM PST by farmfriend
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To: farmfriend
Those are signs from the good Lord that it is time for you to move on! My younger son just left a company like that. He is sleeping better and feeling better everyday after he left and got another job.
30 posted on 03/28/2002 12:51:40 PM PST by Grampa Dave
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To: Grampa Dave
Powerful stuff, thanks Gramps !!
31 posted on 03/28/2002 5:02:15 PM PST by blackie
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To: blackie
Thanks and spread the word to your friends. It is time we get the truth out about these vile creatures, the enviralists!
32 posted on 03/28/2002 5:13:03 PM PST by Grampa Dave
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To: Grampa Dave
I book marked it and will send the link to others.
33 posted on 03/28/2002 6:02:06 PM PST by blackie
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To: farmfriend
bump
34 posted on 07/03/2002 7:16:47 AM PDT by madfly
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To: madfly
bttt
35 posted on 07/03/2002 7:42:02 AM PDT by US_MilitaryRules
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To: US_MilitaryRules
backatcha
36 posted on 07/03/2002 7:49:27 AM PDT by madfly
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To: Grampa Dave
Thanks for the flag. This is a nice article. We will know we are winning when the NYT gets it right.
37 posted on 07/03/2002 8:14:29 AM PDT by farmfriend
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To: leadpenny
Do you support these Anti American lies and frauds by your buddies the envirals?

Does your love of critters overcome fraud and rural cleansing of your fellow Americans?

Your thesis ? on the red legged frog has the same validity of all the rest of the lies/fraud committed by the green enviral nazis from hell!

So again, do you support lies/fraud and Nazi rural cleansing of Americans for the red legged frog and other ESA critters?
38 posted on 07/03/2002 8:48:18 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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bttt
39 posted on 07/03/2002 9:41:17 AM PDT by madfly
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To: madfly
This other thread that you posted about the so called Mexican Spotted Owl observer being charged for arson really begs that all past so called reports on any so called endangered species be looked at for fraud, lies and irresponsible reporting by surveyors. ( Paul James Valdez, 27, of Tularosa, who worked for the tribe helping take the census of federally protected Mexican spotted owls, was arrested Wednesday on charges of setting the half-acre Lower Cooley Fire on June 2.)
40 posted on 07/03/2002 9:54:44 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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