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SUICIDE BOMBER STRIKE AT NETANYA IN ISRAEL! AT LEAST 10 killed according to FOX NEWS
Fox News | March 27 | Sam Sheppard

Posted on 03/27/2002 9:26:41 AM PST by Roger_W_Isom

AT LEAST 10 people have been killed in a hotel lobby in NETANYA ISRAEL 51 injured for sue... PARK HOTEL was the target........ And people wonderred WHY the ISRAELIS REFUSED TO LET ARAFART GO TO THIS " SUMMITT"?????


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KEYWORDS: herewegoagain; palestinianscum
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To: Justin Raimondo
How many Israelis are immigrants from ... Brooklyn?

An interesting line of thought, Justine. Hold that line and you may remember Brooklyn Jews getting knifed and stuff. Should be good for your wet dreams for a week, at least.

Why don't you follow your leader?

121 posted on 03/27/2002 11:16:00 AM PST by Cachelot
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To: doug from upland
BTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
122 posted on 03/27/2002 11:19:14 AM PST by wardaddy
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To: TheOtherOne
The "Other One" is right. To you, and all the other Israel Firsters on this thread, I commend the immortal words of that noted "anti-Semite," (NOT!) George Washington:

"In the execution of such a plan, nothing is more essential than that permanent, inveterate antipathies against particular nations, and passionate attachments for others, should be excluded; and that, in place of them, just and amicable feelings towards all should be cultivated. The nation which indulges towards another a habitual hatred or a habitual fondness is in some degree a slave. It is a slave to its animosity or to its affection, either of which is sufficient to lead it astray from its duty and its interest. Antipathy in one nation against another disposes each more readily to offer insult and injury, to lay hold of slight causes of umbrage, and to be haughty and intractable, when accidental or trifling occasions of dispute occur. Hence, frequent collisions, obstinate, envenomed, and bloody contests. The nation, prompted by ill-will and resentment, sometimes impels to war the government, contrary to the best calculations of policy. The government sometimes participates in the national propensity, and adopts through passion what reason would reject; at other times it makes the animosity of the nation subservient to projects of hostility instigated by pride, ambition, and other sinister and pernicious motives. The peace often, sometimes perhaps the liberty, of nations, has been the victim.

"So likewise, a passionate attachment of one nation for another produces a variety of evils. Sympathy for the favorite nation, facilitating the illusion of an imaginary common interest in cases where no real common interest exists, and infusing into one the enmities of the other, betrays the former into a participation in the quarrels and wars of the latter without adequate inducement or justification. It leads also to concessions to the favorite nation of privileges denied to others which is apt doubly to injure the nation making the concessions; by unnecessarily parting with what ought to have been retained, and by exciting jealousy, ill-will, and a disposition to retaliate, in the parties from whom equal privileges are withheld. And it gives to ambitious, corrupted, or deluded citizens (who devote themselves to the favorite nation), facility to betray or sacrifice the interests of their own country, without odium, sometimes even with popularity; gilding, with the appearances of a virtuous sense of obligation, a commendable deference for public opinion, or a laudable zeal for public good, the base or foolish compliances of ambition, corruption, or infatuation.

"As avenues to foreign influence in innumerable ways, such attachments are particularly alarming to the truly enlightened and independent patriot. How many opportunities do they afford to tamper with domestic factions, to practice the arts of seduction, to mislead public opinion, to influence or awe the public councils 7 Such an attachment of a small or weak towards a great and powerful nation dooms the former to be the satellite of the latter.

"Against the insidious wiles of foreign influence (I conjure you to believe me, fellow-citizens) the jealousy of a free people ought to be constantly awake, since history and experience prove that foreign influence is one of the most baneful foes of republican government. But that jealousy to be useful must be impartial; else it becomes the instrument of the very influence to be avoided, instead of a defense against it. Excessive partiality for one foreign nation and excessive dislike of another cause those whom they actuate to see danger only on one side, and serve to veil and even second the arts of influence on the other. Real patriots who may resist the intrigues of the favorite are liable to become suspected and odious, while its tools and dupes usurp the applause and confidence of the people, to surrender their interests.

"The great rule of conduct for us in regard to foreign nations is in extending our commercial relations, to have with them as little political connection as possible. So far as we have already formed engagements, let them be fulfilled with perfect good faith. Here let us stop...."

Forget Israel. Forget the Palestinians. And start remembering your own American heritage.

124 posted on 03/27/2002 11:26:26 AM PST by Justin Raimondo
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To: Roger_W_Isom
"Wouldn't it be FUN for the people at the NSA to catch ARAFART in an EMBARRASSING moment "

They are to busy intercepting our e-mails and spying on US citizens to bother with Arafat.

125 posted on 03/27/2002 11:27:01 AM PST by monday
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To: DoughtyOne
The problem with that equivalency argument which one can make about unpleasantries in the Koran, Old Covenant, and the Talmud amongst other books of religious laws and "words of God and prophets" is that currently it seems to be only the Muslims who are indeed foolowing these unpleasant edicts and using them to justify their actions against non-believers or infidels...at least to any great extent. Support for action against Israel, Jews, as well as Christians and Hindus is widespread in the Muslim world. There is no such equivalency whatsoever in the "Infidel" world except perhaps from Hindus in the conflict areas of India and I have not heard that they are using Hindu teology to justify their dispute with the Muslim extremists in Punjab and elsewhere.

This battle has been going on for over a millenuium now...the Infidels are fluid and do change proxies and whatnot but the Islamist side is rather static. Turkey being a big exception....but their fight was more pure hegemony than Islamic hegemony at least during the last Ottomans.

126 posted on 03/27/2002 11:28:58 AM PST by wardaddy
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To: Lazarus Long
I don't understand what would make someone blow up innnocent people like that. I'm having an argument with a friend who is markedly pro-Palestinian. I don't think he is bad, just misguided. He says that Israel is wrong because they took the land from the Palestinians. I told him that, no, the British offered two states, Arab and Jewish, in 1948, and the Arabs turned it down and invaded Israel. I also reminded him of the 1999 Camp David accords where Barak offered Arafat a great deal, and he turned it down.

Arafat doesn't want peace, I am convinced, he wants the complete destruction of Israel. Yes, it would be nice to have two states live side by side in peace, but I don't see that happening. It causes me pain to see this happening every day.

Andrew

127 posted on 03/27/2002 11:31:38 AM PST by walrus954
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To: Justin Raimondo
But Washington also had wooden teeth.

Imagine that Fonzie, if you and all of your "friends" today had wooden teeth, you would spend most of the day taking out splinters.

128 posted on 03/27/2002 11:33:20 AM PST by Sabramerican
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To: account12
"...Netanyahu, and that is exactly who we need... back in power in order to solve the terrorism problem."

Just another example of the negative effects of Clintonized politics. It was the meddling of the "war-room" crowd of Clintonistas (Carville, etc.) who saw to it that Isarael's best defender was removed from office.

Gette'm Bebe.

129 posted on 03/27/2002 11:36:08 AM PST by sayfer bullets
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To: Justin Raimondo
First, my named isn't bud. Second, I don't have dual citizenship. Third, WE DON'T WANT TO HEAR ANY OF YOUR CRAP!
131 posted on 03/27/2002 11:39:58 AM PST by doug from upland
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To: DoughtyOne
"I do not believe all Moslems support the violence that has taken place."

True not all, but according to polls a majority do, especially in the US. If they did not then you can be sure that they would be doing more to combat the problem themselves.

Instead they say "Oh, we don't support violence but the victims have brought it on themselves." This is another way of saying US and Isreali citizens deserve to die.

If you refuse to recognize the enemy, they will kill you without giving you a chance to defend yourself.

132 posted on 03/27/2002 11:41:46 AM PST by monday
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To: wardaddy
Your middle eastern comments are well taken. I'd have to agree with them. I'm sure there are people of good will over there though. I've seen interviews of people who were there and saved by some of them, when they were in danger. Sadly the kooks are in control. As for moslems in our nation, we have many of them here, but only a miniscule amount of actual terrorism. I believe law enforcement methods that solve and prevent other crimes can still be effective here, without us having to implement extreme measures. I will say that if things went way south it might be necessary to implement emergency powers that might include some rather extremest measures.
134 posted on 03/27/2002 11:48:10 AM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: DentsRun
"Israel pressures America. "

Hmmmmm.... examples please? I really don't see Israel as being in a position to pressure America. Lobby yes, but if Israel told America to go take a hike, that could not be termed pressure, as if the reverse were true that would be lots of pressure.

135 posted on 03/27/2002 11:48:43 AM PST by monday
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To: Justin Raimondo
Forget Israel.

Translation: Abandon the innocents to be butchered by the Palestinian jihadists.

Forget the Palestinians.

Translation: Leave the Palestinian jihadists to carry out their genocide unopposed.


136 posted on 03/27/2002 11:50:13 AM PST by Dan Day
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To: all
I profusely apologize to everyone for "thread pollution." I take complete blame for bringing Raimondo to this thread. I'm going to my room.
137 posted on 03/27/2002 11:51:32 AM PST by doug from upland
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To: monday
I do not know exactly how many followers of Islam are in our nation. I know it's at least 300,000. If these people supported the violence that some say they do, we'd have bombings every day.

I don't doubt there are some bad apples here. Let's take corrective measures. I think prudence is the only rational course here. I just want to make sure we don't over react.

Thanks. D1

138 posted on 03/27/2002 11:52:07 AM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: Texas Dissident
A BIG bump for that comment. Really says it all.

Ah, TD. Either-or, it took you long enuff to start using your backup, eh? How's "Original Dissent" coming? A little dead? The EU-nazis seemed to think it was run by a wuss. Joke's on them, huh? ;)

139 posted on 03/27/2002 11:53:50 AM PST by Cachelot
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To: DoughtyOne
I agree.
140 posted on 03/27/2002 11:54:01 AM PST by wardaddy
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