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166 years later, Texas recalls the Goliad massacre - "Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad!"
The Dallas Morning News ^ | March 24, 2002 | By NATALIE ORNISH / Special Contributor to The Dallas Morning News

Posted on 03/24/2002 10:16:30 AM PST by MeekOneGOP


166 years later, Texas recalls the Goliad massacre

Historic battle helped gather support for cause against Mexico

03/24/2002

By NATALIE ORNISH / Special Contributor to The Dallas Morning News

There likely isn't a Texan or an American who hasn't heard the famous cry, "Remember the Alamo!"

But what about Goliad?

It will be 166 years ago Wednesday that 342 Texians, most of whom had been surrendered by Col. James W. Fannin seven days earlier and held in the presidio at Goliad, were killed by Mexican soldiers.

The Goliad massacre came 21 days after the fall of the Alamo, amid Texas' fight for independence against Mexico. The Alamo had fallen to Mexican Gen. Antonio López de Santa Anna's army after a 13-day siege and all of its 180-plus defenders had been killed. Santa Anna had given orders to his commanders that all foreigners taken in arms against the Mexican government were to be executed.

The siege and final battle at the Alamo is better known, but the Goliad massacre is credited by many historians with generating support for the Texas cause both within Texas and in the United States.

After the fall of the Alamo on March 6, Col. Fannin, who had been ordered to evacuate La Bahía and retreat northeastward to Victoria on the other side of the Guadalupe River, hesitated and didn't leave until March 19. It was too late; the Texians got only about 10 miles before they were caught by Mexican cavalry in open prairie. After a skirmish, they surrendered the next day.

The prisoners were marched back to La Bahía, under the impression that they were to be treated as prisoners of war. There, they were crowded into the church, remembered one of them, Herman Ehrenberg, a young (probably about 19 or 20) Prussian, who had been with the Texian army when it drove Mexican troops out of San Antonio (then called Bexar) in December 1835. He had spent part of the winter in the Alamo, but left before the siege began and joined Col. Fannin's troops in Goliad. He was captured with the others while retreating and marched back to La Bahía.

"[We] were stuffed into the old church for the night," he wrote later in a first-person account of his experiences, The Fight for Freedom in Texas in the Year 1836. "Literally stuffed, as we stood so close man to man that it was possible at the most for only one-fourth to even sit down. ... Many slept while standing, as the bodies were pressed so close against one another, it made it impossible to fall over. ... The next morning finally appeared, but with it still no liberation from this deathly dungeon. Our breakfast, as before, consisted of water."

Staying loyal

Ehrenberg wrote that he refused an offer made to Prussian citizens to defect to the Mexican side. He also noted that on the morning of March 26, soldiers brought in another 100 prisoners, volunteers from New York who had been captured.

That was also the day that Col. José Nicolás de la Portilla, the officer left in command of La Bahía, received a direct order from Santa Anna to execute the prisoners. Col. Portilla's superior, Gen. José de Urrea, had appealed to Santa Anna for clemency for the prisoners, but that reportedly had only outraged the Mexican commander.

The next morning, March 27, Palm Sunday, the prisoners were divided into three columns and marched out of the presidio. Ehrenberg's column proceeded in silence on the road toward Victoria. Then, without notice, they were marched off the road toward the San Antonio River and ordered to halt.

"At that moment, we heard the muffled rolling of a musket volley in the distance," Ehrenberg wrote later. "We looked at each other and cast questioning glances, first at ourselves and then at the Mexicans. Then another command 'Kneel down!' rang out from the lips of the Mexican officers. Only a few of us understood Spanish and could not, or would not, obey the order.

'Everything was quiet'

"The Mexican soldiers, who stood only three steps away, leveled their muskets at our chests, and we found ourselves terribly surprised. We still considered it impossible to believe that they were going to shoot us.

"... Sounds of a second volley thundered over to us from another direction, accompanied by confused cries, probably from those who were not immediately killed. This shocked our comrades out of their stark astonishment, which had lasted around five or six seconds ...

"A terrible cracking sound ... and then everything was quiet. A thick smoke slowly rolled towards the San Antonio. The blood of my lieutenant was on my clothing. Around me my friends quivered. ... I did not see more. Deciding quickly, I jumped up and, concealed by the black smoke of the powder, rushed down along the hedge to the river.

'Nothing to risk'

"... Only the rushing of the water was my guide. Then suddenly a powerful saber smashed me over the head. Before me, the figure of a little Mexican lieutenant appeared out of the dense smoke, and a second blow from him fell on my left arm, with which I had tried to ward off or parry the blow.

"I had nothing to risk and everything to gain. Either life or death! ... The smoke rolled like a black thundercloud over to the other side, and I stood with rapidly pounding heart on the rocks at the edge of the water. As the water flowed at my feet, behind me the hangmen were pursuing.

"Like a corps from hell, they came after me, but ... I threw myself into the rescuing floods."

After the bloodshed

Most historians agree that 342 men were executed at Goliad and 28 escaped. About 20 more were spared because they were physicians, orderlies, interpreters or mechanics.

Ehrenberg was one of those who escaped. He wandered around South Texas for two weeks and finally, nearly starved, he arrived at Gen. Urrea's camp. Posing as a lost traveler, he became a guest of the Mexican army until news came from San Jacinto that Santa Anna had been defeated.

At that final battle, the Texian battle cry was "Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad!"

After being discharged from the Texian army, Ehrenberg returned to Prussia, but later made his way back to America where he became known as an explorer, mapmaker and a '49er in the California gold rush.

Natalie Ornish is a Dallas-based free-lance writer. She is author of Ehrenberg: Goliad Survivor, Old West Explorer.


Online at: http://www.dallasnews.com/texassouthwest/stories/032402dntexgoliad.1b045.html


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: goliad; historylist; rememberthealamo; santaanna; texas; texashistory
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To: oldfart
Another irony, today the people in Goliad are probably more symathetic to the illegal aliens than they are to the hard-pressed Texas taxpayers who fund "services" for these immigrants. Goliad is a heavily Democrat area -- Tony Sanchez will sweep it.
61 posted on 03/24/2002 2:56:06 PM PST by Theodore R.
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To: antidemocommie
Not according to President Bush.
62 posted on 03/24/2002 3:00:20 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf
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To: lonestar; Squantos; ValerieUSA; Mulder; deport; Dog Gone; DallasMike; Diddle E. Squat; FITZ...
Here's one just for grins (doesn't have anything to do with this article's history..........


"Judge Roy Bean, the `Law West of the Pecos,' holding court at the old town of Langtry, Texas in 1900, trying a horse thief. This building was courthouse and saloon. No other peace officers in the locality at that time."
http://www.nara.gov/nara/nn/nns/west084.jpg

So where's Miss Lily??....................


Slow Down There, Judge!

63 posted on 03/24/2002 3:08:05 PM PST by MeekOneGOP
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To: VOA
The population of Mexico City in the mid-18th century was around 170,000.
64 posted on 03/24/2002 3:22:18 PM PST by Restorer
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To: VOA
Make that mid-19th century. No idea what it was 100 years earlier.

BTW, I recently finished Jeff Shaara's novel about the MExican War, Gone For Soldiers. Really interesting book.

The Mexican Army was mostly used to terrorizing peasants and Indians. They fought against a modern army about as well as the Taliban did.

65 posted on 03/24/2002 3:29:30 PM PST by Restorer
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To: MeeknMing
Send a copy of this to Bush. He needs to read it.
66 posted on 03/24/2002 3:46:27 PM PST by Brownie74
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To: MeeknMing
Great story. Thanks for sharing, Meek.
67 posted on 03/24/2002 3:56:05 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: MeeknMing
2000 mejicans hammered less than 200 of us.
68 posted on 03/24/2002 4:15:09 PM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection
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To: MeeknMing
Thanks for the FAB effort, M n M! Really enjoyed the bio & fotos. It's neat that this history 'lesson' is stimulating so much conversation! Thanks again. :)
69 posted on 03/24/2002 4:23:10 PM PST by Jane Dough
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To: Restorer
The Mexican Army was mostly used to terrorizing peasants and Indians.
They fought against a modern army about as well as the Taliban did.


That certainly was the picture presented in the PBS series on the Mexican-American war.

I hadn't read much about the event, but it was a real eye-opener to hear about the
U.S. Army marching up the same road from Veracruz to Mexico City as Cortez had taken...
and the Mexican Army under Santa Ana seemingly either too addled or disorganized to stop them.

It got so bad, I started feeling sorry for some of the Mexican officers that tried to
take the proper actions to impede the rolling tide of the US Army, but were stopped by
either the stupidity or political machinations of their superiors.

When I start feeling empathy for an army oppossed to US forces...that's a very sad bunch
of fellows.
And even though it's probably a part of the thinking of about 1% of current undocumented
migrants from Mexico, I do at least hold out the thought that maybe some of
them come north to "join the winning team".
70 posted on 03/24/2002 4:41:48 PM PST by VOA
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To: VOA
The Shaara book doesn't portray the US generals as perfect by any stretch, but the Mexican generals were as much politicians as soldiers. He shows Santa Ana as intentionally no reinforcing one of his generals who has gained a momentary advantage for fear that his winning of a battle could make him a political rival. This is no way to win a war.

I didn't get a chance to see the PBS show you reference. We often don't recognize how much the non-political nature of our own armed forces contributes to their military effectiveness. A war in a country with a tradition of military generals combines the worst features of war and election campaigns.

71 posted on 03/24/2002 5:21:20 PM PST by Restorer
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To: summer
Hey, Summer! I was busy this afternoon posting pics and links to this article. It just dawned on me
that you might be interested in seeing this. A little bit of Texas history. Send this to Jeb!............
72 posted on 03/24/2002 5:35:40 PM PST by MeekOneGOP
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To: encm(ss)
I used to visit Goliad often when I was a little boy. It was one of my most favorite places to go. We could still find indian arrow heads in the Goliad area.

My Grandfather was a Lutheran missionary to Texas (from Germany) and Goliad was one of the towns where he lived and preached.

Texas history owes a lot to it's German heritage! My Uncle (my Mom's brother-in-law) was German, from Minnesota. He passed away a couple of years ago and is dearly missed by all of us. He had a special sense of humor (dry humor) that we all appreciated and loved......

I remember when I visited our good friends in Lockhart, Texas years ago, we loved looking for and finding the flint rock and hoped to find the arrowheads as well........

Thanks!

73 posted on 03/24/2002 5:46:57 PM PST by MeekOneGOP
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To: MeeknMing
Thank you for posting this!

I have recently discovered that I may have had a relative killed at Goliad.

74 posted on 03/24/2002 5:49:13 PM PST by DrNo
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To: MeeknMing
Thanks for the flag! This is a fascinating thread. And, I think YOU would most enjoy sending it to him! jeb@jeb.org
75 posted on 03/24/2002 6:08:18 PM PST by summer
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To: ExSoldier
May I suggest:

Mi Tierra Cafe & Bakery, in the market, just west of downtown. Eat in or dine al fresco on the patio.

A really good place to get to know San Antonio, which is one of America's finest cities.

76 posted on 03/24/2002 6:29:11 PM PST by okie01
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To: ExSoldier; Billie
As a teacher of American History I do teach both the saga of The Alamo and the subsequent JUSTICE of the attack at Goliad. This is very good stuff.

But NEXT week, we are driving from Miami, Florida out to Texas to pick up our new born puppy and we intend to completely soak up the rich history of San Antonio. I'm going to take the tour of the Alamo but not tell the tour guide I'm a teacher of American History. See if she can guess my profession. LOL

Can any FREEPER out there recommend a good place to get STEAK; as well as a good Mexican restaurant in San Antonio that won't also eat the entire wallets of a pair of teachers?

Way to go, and thanks!

Billie, you know of any good restaurants in SA for this good hard working FReeper teacher?........

77 posted on 03/24/2002 6:39:03 PM PST by MeekOneGOP
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To: MeeknMing
Thanks for the heads up!!! Goliad - la Bahia - is one of my most beloved spots in Texas. I have a painting of the mission in my dining room.
78 posted on 03/24/2002 7:36:41 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Diddle E. Squat
To: antidemocommie I too, am native, but don't believe Texas belongs only to whites. So do you simply ignore Mexicans that fought alongside the immigrants against the tyrannical Mexican govt? They were just as important in securing independence for Texas. 33 posted on 3/24/02 1:54 PM Pacific by Diddle E. Squat

Were those "mexcians"? I thought they were brown skinned Texans. Theres a lot of BS out there these days. Everyone but honkies call themselves "_____ Americans". I prefer to call myself just an American. I don't believe you can be both a Mexican and a Texan. Nor can you be a Mexican and an American. You are either a Mexican, or an American PERIOD. End of story.

Now, if you'll fight against mexcio to save Texas, you can call yourself a Texan. But, if you would run to the other side, or avoid the conflict, then you are no Texan.

79 posted on 03/24/2002 10:15:05 PM PST by antidemocommie
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To: antidemocommie
Maybe every Goliad anniversary, 342 Mexican illegals chosen at random, should be executed by firing squad.

That ought to have a salutary effect on the rest.

80 posted on 03/24/2002 10:21:11 PM PST by crystalk
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