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"Distributor of 'Nazi' flier urged to resign county posts" Gun control freak DemocRAT SS uniforms
Washington Jewish Week ^ | 3-23-02 | Eric Fingerhut - Staff Writer, Washington Jewish Week

Posted on 03/23/2002 3:19:46 PM PST by Hail Caesar

P.J. Hogan's Heroes

Graphic credit: Maryland Tyranny Response Team


Distributor of 'Nazi' flier urged to resign county posts

by Eric Fingerhut

Staff Writer

Local Jewish organizations are calling on a Bethesda man who distributed a flier depicting three members of the Maryland General Assembly as Nazis to resign from two Montgomery County public positions.

Montgomery County Executive Douglas Duncan has initiated proceedings to remove him from one of those posts, but Augustus Alzona says he has no intention of leaving either position.

Jewish Community Council of Greater Washington and American Jewish Committee Washington chapter leaders say that Alzona is not fit to continue as a member of the Montgomery County Republican Central Committee or of the Montgomery County Committee on Hate/Violence due to his involvement with the distribution of the controversial flier last week at House and Senate hearings in Annapolis.

The flier, which states that "Montgomery County Democrats have a FINAL Solution for ALL of Maryland's Gun Owners," depicts State Sens. Brian Frosh (D-Dist. 16) and Christopher Van Hollen (D-Dist.18) and Del. Mark Shriver (D-Dist. 15) in Nazi uniforms, smiling, with the words "for the CHILDREN" on their hats. A concentration camp prisoner poses in the background, with a C on his chest -- apparently standing for "communist."

The three are sponsors of a bill that would require the licensing of gun owners in Maryland, similar to the way the state licenses drivers.

In a letter on Tuesday, Duncan informed Alzona that proceedings had been initiated to remove him from the Montgomery County Committee on Hate/Violence.

The county describes the committee as "a citizen's advisory group created to work with the [county's Human Relations] Commission to educate the residents of Montgomery County about hate/violence, to recommend policies, programs, legislation or other initiatives needed to decrease and eliminate hate/violence in the county, and to promote respect for social and cultural diversity."

"In my view, Mr. Alzona's actions of last week are highly offensive, do not keep with this spirit of inclusiveness and do a disservice to the fine work of the Montgomery County Committee on Hate/Violence," said Duncan, who also gave Alzona the opportunity to resign his position voluntarily.

The county executive, with council approval, may remove a member of the committee for just cause, but that member must receive the opportunity to respond to the allegations, either before the council or in writing.

Alzona, the treasurer of the 15-member body, was appointed to the committee as a business community representative in 1998 and reappointed to a three-year term in 2000.

"It smacks of partisanship," said Alzona of the Duncan move. "I'd like my day in court."

Ron Halber, JCCouncil executive director, praised Duncan's action, but said he hoped that Alzona would resign before being officially removed.

"When one assumes public leadership, that includes standards of tolerance and inclusiveness," Halber said. "If he wants to show some leadership, he could do so by resigning," and "spare the taxpayers the waste of money and valuable time."

Two top Republican officeholders in Montgomery County, Rep. Connie Morella and County Council member Howard Denis, have called on Alzona to resign from his elected post on the county Republican committee. The county Republican Party has followed suit.

"Trivializing the Holocaust is over the line," said Denis. "The Holocaust was so awful, it's common decency not to drag it into political debate."

Alzona says he has no plans to resign from the committee, and will probably run for re-election.

"I represent a certain constituency," Alzona said, noting that he is the only Asian/Pacific-American member of the Republican committee in the state and has strong support in the conservative wing of Maryland's Republican Party.

Denis said that he intends to campaign actively against Alzona in the election for committee spots, which will take place on primary Election Day in September.

David Bernstein, director of the American Jewish Committee's Washington area office, said Alzona should resign from his public posts and praised Morella and Denis.

"We have to applaud the political leadership and party leadership for their forceful condemnations of this," he said. "Using Nazi imagery is inappropriate in a political campaign."

Brittanie Zelkind Werbel of the Anti-Defamation League's Washington regional office, said her organization is "glad to hear that [political leaders] are taking action."

"I think it's definitely a reason for concern that someone who is distributing hate literature offensive to anyone who survived the Holocaust ... is a member of a government-sanctioned group working against hate," she said.

Alzona, who lost to Frosh in a state Senate race in 1998, is a member of the Maryland chapter of the Tyranny Response Team, a group that has been active in Montgomery County opposing any kind of gun control measures.

The group's Web site, which had a copy of the controversial flier posted on Monday but has since taken it down, says the group is "the embodiment of mans' [sic] desire for freedom."

Zelkind Werbel said the TRT has in the past used Nazi imagery to support its pro-gun argument, and also has links to militia groups throughout the country.

Alzona said that the flier was "Mel Brooks-like ... political ridicule of those three lawmakers for having .. a Nazi-like mentality of favoring registration, fingerprinting, photographing, numbering and licensing of all Maryland's gun owners."

He also said is only guilty of doing his job as a Republican committee member by attacking Democrats.

He added that the flier is being used to "lynch me through the media because I am a known gun rights activist in the party."

Steve Rosenthal, a friend of Alzona's who is "active in the firearms civil rights community" and lives in Arlington, said he is Jewish and was "not offended" by the use of Nazi imagery, although he can "understand why [Frosh, Van Hollen and Shriver] are upset being compared to Nazis."

He notes that if citizens had been able to keep their guns in Nazi Germany, "things wouldn't have turned out any worse."

All three elected officials depicted in the flier said it disgusted them.

"It's pretty awful, hateful and inappropriate," said Frosh. "I have a hard time thinking anyone would think this is funny."

"It is American politics at its worst," said Van Hollen. "It trivializes the evil of the Nazi regime."

"It is outrageous ... and does not belong in a public forum," said Shriver, noting that one can have strong disagreements on policy without resorting to portraying opponents as Nazis.


This story was published on Thu, Mar 21, 2002.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Political Humor/Cartoons; Politics/Elections; US: Maryland
KEYWORDS: adl; banglist; democrat; jewishcommittee; melbrooks; montgomerycounty; naziss; parody; politicalcomedy; trt
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To: Hail Caesar
The Nazi imagery is an offensive way to make a point, and so is levying gun control in the name of dead children. Maryland Dems are finally getting a taste of their own medicine.
21 posted on 03/23/2002 5:43:53 PM PST by Djarum
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To: dts32041
nope
22 posted on 03/23/2002 5:46:22 PM PST by sport
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To: Always A Marine
Right!
It is coming faster than you think.

In Hillsborough County, Florida the County Commissoners prohabit the public from critizing their actions when the citizens speak at commission meetings.

23 posted on 03/23/2002 5:49:58 PM PST by sport
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To: Justa
Under CFR, fliers using names or images of politicians is only banned within 60 days of an election or 30 days of a primary IF the flier is paid for by soft money.
24 posted on 03/23/2002 5:55:46 PM PST by jimtorr
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To: mlibertarianj
Is that Mark Shriver, a relative of the Kennedys, by chance?

Sure looks like a Kennedy. Eunice Kennedy Shriver has a son named Mark Kennedy Shriver.

26 posted on 03/23/2002 6:07:43 PM PST by barker
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To: Hail Caesar
"Trivializing the Holocaust is over the line," said County Council member Howard Denis.

"It's pretty awful, hateful and inappropriate," said Frosh. "I have a hard time thinking anyone would think this is funny."

"It is American politics at its worst," said Van Hollen. "It trivializes the evil of the Nazi regime."

"It is outrageous ... and does not belong in a public forum," said Shriver.

Contrast that with reviews of the current Broadway play "The Producers" with its "Springtime for Hitler" segment.

Near its beginning, we hear the sound of the familiar Chorus Line audition vamp being pounded on a rehearsal piano; and then the line of Dancing Hitlers appears on stage: now that's funny. The scene ends with Bialystock's famous declaration "That's our Hitler!" ... The "Springtime for Hitler" show curtain descends, the chorus line of jolly singing Germans appears, and then the curtain goes up, the SS Lead Tenor is center stage singing "Springtime for Hitler and Germany" and the parade of Nazi beauties starts down the staircase. And you think: I never thought I'd ever really see this musical number on stage. And the audience roars, and keeps roaring. And you're thrilled, and awash in laughter (in part because the costumes and choreography are genuinely hilarious). From the nytheatre.com review by Martin Denton.

The Broadway adaptation still contains the movie's centrepiece musical number Springtime For Hitler, a wonderful piece of cinematic kitsch, which has been artfully recreated for the stage. From the news.bbc.co.uk review by Tom Brook.

There are many more of course -- all praising the segment. It received 12 Tony awards.

If a conservative uses Nazis to make a point it "trivializes the evil of the Nazi regime." But if liberal entertainment people do the same it's just "kitsch."

27 posted on 03/23/2002 6:17:34 PM PST by FreedomCalls
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To: AnnaZ; HangFire; Lady Jenn; Kithlyara; AZ Spartacus; feinswinesuksass; abigail2...
Belles bump
28 posted on 03/23/2002 7:45:44 PM PST by lowbridge
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To: Hail Caesar
I LOVED this flyer. God bless this man. My (Conservative Orthodox) Jewish friends think this flyer is hillarious, and the apoplectic response of left-wing Jews even more so. My gun-toting rabbi friend gave this flyer two thumbs up.

His name is Baruch, and he told me: "We believe in G-d, believe in a strong America, believe in a strong Israel, and we are having 5-9 children per family. The deformed Jews are having abortions and intermarrying. GOOD! When all is said and done the only Jews left will be ones worthy of the Covenant. We think of this as another "cleansing" period such as Moses leading the wayward Hebrews through the desert for forty years to weed out the heretics."

I told Baruch..."yeah, but tell me how you REALLY feel"

lol

29 posted on 03/23/2002 8:38:39 PM PST by montag813
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To: montag813,lowbridge,freedomcalls,PatrioticAmerican,Howie,Squantos,harpseal

30 posted on 03/23/2002 9:37:49 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: Hail Caesar
The American Jewish Committee's Washington area office and the Anti-Defamation League's Washington regional office both continue to lobby Congress for even more gun control than we have now!

And while we are at that, the Israelis should give up their guns and try to reason with the Pallies.

31 posted on 03/23/2002 9:41:24 PM PST by ConvictHitlery
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To: wardaddy;Ragtime Cowgirl;pocat;blam;Robert Teesdale;Coloradan

Images by PatrioticAmerican

32 posted on 03/23/2002 9:43:00 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: Hail Caesar,DrZ,Howie,PatrioticAmerican;lowbridge
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF GUN CONTROL,

RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

After Hitler was elected in 1933, he used existing gun registration lists to totally disarm his enemies, rendering them helpless to resist.

The rest is history.

33 posted on 03/23/2002 10:03:17 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: PatrioticAmerican
"Germans who wish to use firearms should join the SS or the SA: ordinary citizens don't need guns, as their having guns doesn't serve the state." ~~Heinrich Himmler

"If someone is so fearful that they are going to start using their weapons to protect their rights, it makes me very nervous that these people have weapons at all." ~~Henry Waxman

"One of the basic conditions for the victory of socialism is the arming of the workers [read communist party] and the disarming of the bourgeoisie." ~~V.I. Lenin, Collected Works

"I don't think everybody has a right to a weapon which can be used to kill innocent people and maybe threaten the life of a president of the United States." ~~Henry Waxman

"Make mass searches and hold executions for found arms." ~~V.I. Lenin

"We are going to hammer guns on the anvil of relentless legislative strategy! We are going to beat guns into submission!" ~~Chuck Schumer

"If the opposition disarms, well and good. If it refuses to disarm, we shall disarm it ourselves." ~~Stalin, 1927

.

Does anyone have the Feinstein quote on "if we had the votes, I'd ban firearms tomorrow"?

34 posted on 03/23/2002 10:07:37 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: Travis McGee
Feinstein told Sam Donaldson on This Week -- "If I had 51 votes, it would be Mr. and Mrs. America, turn them in." (as best as I remember)

Senator Feinstein had no concern for what the Second Amendment says.

35 posted on 03/23/2002 10:16:51 PM PST by gatex
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To: Travis McGee
I LIKE IT!!!!!!!!!!....good controversy at worst and effective at best....gets folks thinking....like Uncle Joe said...or was it Beria???.....say it enough times and it sticks....nasty or not. Just ask anyone who's been slimed publicly as insensitive or intolerant or any other PC codespeak....show the link between gun grabbers and nazis or commies enuff and even the soccer moms in their "own private Idahos" will start to make a connection. Plus there's the added bonus of acting like we're fighting totalitarianism...which we are actually .

Big Bump Regards....I'd like to see Russert talking about how "innapropriate" this is....keep it bumped.

36 posted on 03/23/2002 10:18:52 PM PST by wardaddy
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To: Travis McGee
"Does anyone have the Feinstein quote on "if we had the votes, I'd ban firearms tomorrow"? "

The irony is that Senator Feinstein would not have been allowed to possess a firearm after November 1939, in Nazi Germany.

37 posted on 03/23/2002 10:21:22 PM PST by gatex
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To: Hail Caesar
"Trivializing the Holocaust is over the line," said Denis

Trivializing the Second Amendment with gun control is over the line.

39 posted on 03/23/2002 10:26:34 PM PST by gatex
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To: Hail Caesar
As the saying goes "If the shoe fits, wear it." And so should those who are proponents of gun registration. Gun registration is a precursor to gun confiscation, as it was under Hitler's regime. This ad was meant as a warning, and in no way denigrated the holocaust. Instead, it used the holocaust as a warning that should be acknowledged by every freedom loving American.

Register your guns and you will soon find them confiscated!

Just ask England or Australia who were forced to turn even valuable collector's guns over to the government to be destroyed. Now, the only people who have guns are the outlaws. Outlaws who don't have guns use baseball bats and knives and terrorize neighborhoods.

Our government can't control illegal drugs -- they would have no better record in controlling illegal weapons. So thanks, but no thanks -- I'll just keep my guns, unregistered, and be prepared to defend my freedom against criminals and socialistic government policies.

40 posted on 03/23/2002 10:43:13 PM PST by bjcintennessee
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