Posted on 03/18/2002 11:24:43 AM PST by Blunderfromdownunder
New Zealand troops spied on al Qaeda forces in last week's fierce United States offensive in the mountains of eastern Afghanistan, say Israeli journalists.
The website debka.com said the elite Special Air Service troops were dropped on to mountains of eastern Afghanistan to spy on the build-up of al Qaeda and Taleban forces and guide 1500 US and Canadian troops in their assault, codenamed Operation Anaconda.
They and special forces from Australia and Norway worked in teams of three to five soldiers, hiding in caves above the snowline for up to four weeks.
Debka would not reveal its sources, but the website has scooped Western media several times this year and some of its revelations were confirmed in Australian defence force statements.
Debka editor-in-chief Giora Shamis said US forces had been troubled by security leaks among their Afghan allies, and tried to solve the problem by using New Zealand, Australian and Norwegian special forces in key roles.
Troops from those three nations were "seasoned in combat and intelligence gathering in high, snowbound mountain terrain".
In freezing temperatures, the troops were dropped into the rocky, snow-patched mountains around the Shah-i-Kot valley late last month to spy on al Qaeda, track their movements and mark targets.
Mr Shamis said the special forces operated at higher altitudes than the al Qaeda and were mostly unseen.
Towards the end of the battle - last week - special forces were engaged in fighting.
Mr Shamis did not know if New Zealanders were involved, but the Australian defence forces confirmed on Friday that they had been in the fighting.
When asked how the New Zealanders performed, Mr Shamis said: "From what I heard, they did a terrific job. They were the eyes of the attack."
Politicians and defence officials from New Zealand and Australia yesterday persisted in their policy of not commenting on the New Zealand SAS role in Afghanistan.
But their efforts have been undermined by the internet, which allows New Zealanders to access overseas reports.
On Friday, Prime Minister Helen Clark was forced to publicly acknowledge the SAS presence in Afghanistan for the first time when a White House website listed New Zealand's contribution, including that our forces had "recovered valuable equipment and forwarded it for exploitation".
An Australian Army spokesman was more forthcoming, giving an account that appears to tally with the Israeli reports.
Brigadier Paul Retter said 100 Australian soldiers played a "key role" in the fighting, and were among the first troops sent to the Shah-i-Kot battle area - the new front in eastern Afghanistan - after American forces overran the cave complexes of Tora Bora further north.
They provided "continuous observation", supported US ground troops and co-ordinated air strikes as the temperature hit minus 20C in the operation in which eight Americans died, their highest casualties of the war.
On Thursday and Friday, the Australians cut off enemy troops trying to flee to the south, killing more than 10. Brigadier Retter said the winter conditions were extremely harsh and demanding.
The number of New Zealand SAS soldiers in Afghanistan is not known, but has been estimated at between 18 and 30.
Little is known of the SAS apart from a rare open day in September 1998, when the SAS revealed it was able to deploy 25 soldiers above the snowline at any one time.
Its members are trained in a wide range of skills, including mountain climbing, surviving cold, hiking up to 80km each day with heavy packs, and laser-guiding bombs dropped from aircraft.
Internationally, the service was known for having perhaps the best trackers in the world.
The Debka website claims to have 4.2 million visitors a month.
Its staff rarely name their sources, but the site has received praise from several media organisations.
A reporter for Britain's Independent newspaper, Kim Sengupta, said US sources had repeatedly told him that New Zealand SAS soldiers had been in Kandahar with a Canadian contingent. He also heard they had been in Gardez, less than 30km from Shah-i-Kot.
Big assumption there Blunder. Perhaps the learned and articulate gentleman would prefer to vent himself to Comrade Helen rather than the right-minded Kiwis on this site.
Cheers and thanks for the ping.
There is a thread bout the Brits sending troops to Afghan. I do expect you to look it up and check my post. To post such was very painful but I do have some integrity.
We have two very new frigates, 109 or so LAVs are on order for the army and the Air Force exists totally to rescue Helen Clark from around the globe, where she spends most of her time.
Our defense policies are down the toilet - YES, you're right. However, our troops who specialise in mountain warfare seem to be doing what they do best under command of US movers and shakers. I'm betting the synergy with US and other troops is more than you'd ever be capable of when wheeling your shopping cart thru aisles at your local supermarket.
Get onto the internet and look at what your population and GDP is against New Zealand's and let it all fall into place.
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