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Andrea Yates found guilty of capital murder
Associated Press ^ | March 12, 2002 | A/P Staff

Posted on 03/12/2002 4:35:47 PM PST by MeekOneGOP


Andrea Yates found guilty of capital murder

03/12/2002

Associated Press

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Andrea Yates listens to closing arguments at her murder trial.

HOUSTON - Andrea Yates, the 37-year-old housewife who admitted she drowned her five children in the bathtub, was convicted of murder Tuesday by a jury that rejected her claim of insanity in just 3 1/2 hours.

Yates was found guilty of two counts of capital murder covering the deaths of three of her children. She could be sentenced to death or to life in prison following the penalty phase that begins Thursday.

Standing between her attorneys, Yates showed little reaction as the judge read the verdict. Her husband, Russell, muttered "oh God" and buried his head in his hands, and some of Yates' relatives left the courtroom in tears.

"I'm not critiquing or criticizing the verdict," defense lawyer George Parnham said. "But it seems to me we are still back in the days of the Salem witch trials."

He described his client as "very upset." Prosecutors left the courthouse without comment.

The crime attracted widespread attention as a stunned public asked what could cause a mother to systematically kill her children. It also raised new questions about the effects of postpartum depression, which Russell Yates and experts hired by the defense said Yates had struggled with for years.

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Andrea Yates never testified. But her videotaped interviews with psychiatrists, her audiotaped confession to police and her 911 call the day of the drownings all were played for jurors.

Deliberations began after prosecutors told the jury of eight women and four men that Yates, a former nurse, had thought about harming her children for years and ignored a doctor's orders in 1999 to refrain from having any more.

They said that even though Yates is mentally ill, she knew drowning her children was wrong.

"That's the key," prosecutor Kaylynn Williford said. "Andrea Yates knew right from wrong, and she made a choice on June 20 to kill her children deliberately and with deception."

The defense argued that she suffered from postpartum depression so severe that she had lost her ability for rational thought.

"We can't permit objective logic to be imposed on the actions of Andrea Yates," Parnham said. "She was so psychotic on June 20 that she absolutely believed what she was doing was the right thing to do."

Parnham also told the jury in the closely watched case: "This is an opportunity for this jury to make a determination about the status of women's mental health. Make no mistake, the world is watching."

After deliberating about 2 1/4 hours, jurors passed a note to District Judge Belinda Hill asking for the definition of insanity. Thirty minutes later, jurors asked for a cassette player. Among the evidence were the audiotapes of her 911 call and her confession in which she described how 7-year-old Noah tried to run from her, but "I got him."

Yates called her children into the bathroom one by one and drowned them in the tub, then called 911 to tell authorities what she had done. Police found Noah in the tub; the other children were under a wet sheet on a bed.

According to testimony, Yates was overwhelmed by the responsibilities of raising five children and believed she was a bad mother. She had suffered severe depression and had attempted suicide.

She was tried for the deaths of Noah, 5-year-old John and 6-month-old Mary, though only two capital murder charges were filed.

One count listed the killings of Noah and John as two victims killed during the commission of the same crime to qualify for capital punishment. The second count listed the death of Mary.

By not listing all the children in a single count, prosecutors avoided the possibility that an acquittal could void all the charges. Prosecutors also have the option of filing charges later in the deaths of the other two youngsters, Paul, 3, and Luke, 2.

Much of the trial was spent on the definition of insanity, and expert witnesses disagreed on that point.

An expert for the defense told the jury that while Yates knew drowning her children was illegal, in her delusional mind she thought it was the only way to save her children from eternal damnation.

Prosecutors said Yates did not start referring to Satan until the day after her arrest. Williford argued Yates was so deliberate she covered the bodies as she went because the children still alive were old enough to escape from the house and get help. She also noted bruises the children suffered as they struggled with their mother.

Yates sobbed quietly as Williford described the condition police found her children.


Online at: http://www.dallasnews.com/latestnews/stories/031202dntexyatesverdit.1370c85.html
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1 posted on 03/12/2002 4:35:47 PM PST by MeekOneGOP
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To: MeeknMing
If she is sane now and arguing that she was insane at the time she murdered her children, then how can she live with the knowledge that she killed her beautiful, helpless children in such a cruel manner? As a mother, I would find it extremely difficult to live with the guilt and loss of my babies.
2 posted on 03/12/2002 4:58:17 PM PST by lilylangtree
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To: MeeknMing
"I'm not critiquing or criticizing the verdict," defense lawyer George Parnham said. "But it seems to me we are still back in the days of the Salem witch trials."

Hmmm. People who do evil deeds get punished. No, back then, people who didn't do evil deeds got punished. Minor technical difference. More often than not, these days people who do evil deeds do not get punished -- so I'd say we're heading in the right direction here.

Sad, but necessary. Andrea Yates didn't just take the lives of her five children that day -- she took her own as well, albeit in a more roundabout way than the hijackers of the planes that slammed into the WTC and Pentagon on 9/11.

At least they were ready to meet their maker on the day they took the lives of the innocent. Andrea's date with the Devil will be court-appointed.

Sooner the better.

3 posted on 03/12/2002 4:59:16 PM PST by Menkenspiel
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To: MeeknMing
I turned the TV on at the moment they were waiting for the verdict to be read.........she was sitting there chatting and SMILING with her attorney. It made me physically ill to see her smiling.
4 posted on 03/12/2002 5:08:01 PM PST by OldFriend
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To: MeeknMing
>>This is an opportunity for this jury to make a determination about the status of women's mental health.<<

Anyone who gets out much is aware that it isn't too good.

5 posted on 03/12/2002 5:10:02 PM PST by Jim Noble
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To: Menkenspiel; harpu; Happygal; proud American in Canada; RottiBiz; WillaJohns; jwalsh07; carpio...
He described his client as "very upset."

How do you think her own children might've felt? Think they might've felt a little f*cking "upset"?

I have 2 children who have grown up and there were times when it took the patience of Job and a lot of love to keep from throttling them.

Hang the bitch!

6 posted on 03/12/2002 5:14:08 PM PST by Shenandoah
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To: Shenandoah
DEATH Penalty for Yates !!!!!!!!!!!!!

She is a killer and killers only deserve one kind of justice and that is the death penalty.

7 posted on 03/12/2002 5:26:07 PM PST by Snow Bunny
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To: OldFriend
I turned the TV on at the moment they were waiting for the verdict to be read.........she was sitting there chatting and SMILING with her attorney.

I noticed that too. It looked as if she were making jokes.

8 posted on 03/12/2002 5:39:50 PM PST by Dan Day
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To: Dan Day
She's smiling and I am thinking of her little boy pleading for his life, promising to be good.
9 posted on 03/12/2002 5:51:07 PM PST by OldFriend
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To: MeeknMing
He described his client as "very upset."

Now she's upset. Too bad she couldn't show any emotion when she drowned her babies. This woman needs to be put to death in the same way as she took her children's life!

10 posted on 03/12/2002 5:55:22 PM PST by Lucky2
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To: OldFriend
There is nothing like holding my grandbabies in my arms. Sometimes I look at my own grown sons and my arms ache to hold them as babies again. If she ever loved her children at all, her arms will ache and there will be a void in her so deep that execution will a peaceful event. She needs to suffer but will she?
11 posted on 03/12/2002 6:03:07 PM PST by Jaidyn
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To: MeeknMing
Thank God!!!!
12 posted on 03/12/2002 6:10:40 PM PST by unamused
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To: Menkenspiel
"But it seems to me we are still back in the days of the Salem witch trials."

This asshole lawyer should be executed with her....

13 posted on 03/12/2002 6:12:57 PM PST by unamused
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To: MeeknMing
Now, hopefully the jury will have the sense to give her the death penalty.....and hopefully her exuction will be in less than 20 or 30 years.
14 posted on 03/12/2002 6:19:19 PM PST by realwoman
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To: MeeknMing
Suppose Andrea Yates was sane. Then what motive would she have for killing her kids? Saving them from Satan? By killing them? That in itself is insane.

Thus the prosecution's case is self-contradictory. In that a crime committed by a sane person needs to have a motive. There is no credible motive. Therefore she was insane.

I do not trust the arguments of anyone who has not ever experienced any sort of mental illness. Sanity can be a fragile thing. Loss of mental stability can nean loss of obedience to laws and society's norms.

But you will say - we must all be held responsible for our actions. And I agree. I think she should be imprisoned in a hospital for the criminally insane for a very long time.

And I know that the anger against her is based on what she did to the 5 innocent children. And I feel grief also.

But reflect. Is there ever a place for a verdict of not guilty on account of insanity? If so, how could any case fit this description better than the Yates case?

15 posted on 03/12/2002 6:23:36 PM PST by hscott
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To: MeeknMing
I'm glad that I was not on that jury. I don't think I could come to a conclusion on this one. She's evil and she knows it, but how nuts is nuts? Would I flip out if I were pumped up with psychotic/anti-psychotic drugs and then yanked off of them??? Who can say? I just can't make a dogmatic assertion about something so utterly incomprehensible. It seems like it would be better for her to be dead anyway. I pray that God will be merciful to her as only he can be.
16 posted on 03/12/2002 6:40:14 PM PST by Theophilus
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To: hscott
In Texas, the law is clear. To be insane, she had to be unaware that her actions were WRONG. If she were unaware that what she had done was WRONG, she wouldn't have waited until hubbie was gone, and before mother in law shows up; she wouldn't have called hubbie and police after the fact; she wouldn't have covered up the dead bodies; she wouldn't have 'thought about it for years' and figured out when she could do it without interference from 'sane' people.

Motive doesn't come into play. Her state of mind is what was in question, since she pled innocent by reason of insanity. No question she did it...so why she did it wasn't the question. Only her state of mind.

I had PPD, and took meds til I got better. I know how it feels. But hubby and medical community let her and especially those kids down. Stop having babies, and stay on the meds. Don't leave children alone with a mother who says she's been 'hearing voices telling her to pick up a knife and hurt someone.' If you ask me, Russell Yates ought to be on trial, too, as an accessory.

17 posted on 03/12/2002 6:53:00 PM PST by erkyl
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To: Shenandoah
"How do you think her own children might've felt? Think they might've felt a little f*cking "upset"? I have 2 children who have grown up and there were times when it took the patience of Job and a lot of love to keep from throttling them."

i totally agree and when i heard on tv that one of the kids had a hand full of her hair, it made me physically sick to my stomach. i cannot believe anyone could feel sympathy for her. i only feel for those children! What is this world coming too????

18 posted on 03/12/2002 8:33:45 PM PST by blondee123
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To: erkyl
Russell Yates is just as guilty and it makes me sick to see him standing by her!
19 posted on 03/12/2002 8:35:05 PM PST by blondee123
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To: hscott
Is there ever a place for a verdict of not guilty on account of insanity?

No

20 posted on 03/12/2002 8:40:42 PM PST by j_tull
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