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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Ok, here goes- let the flaming begin:

I am reasonably good at getting around quietly at night, getting in and out without being seen or heard (no, I'm not a cat burglar- these are things I learned doing night patrols in the Army!).

However, I doubt that I could go into an occupied house (with a dog), go upstairs, kidnap a child (who is old enough to fight back AND make a lot of noise), then retrace my steps and get out of the house and yard with a fair certainty of not being seen by SOMEONE!!!

The Van Dam's are going to be implicated in this kidnapping in some way- perhaps only because they had Westerfield in their house for one of their little drug and sex parties. Or perhaps for a lot more.

I'm willing to bet on this.

3 posted on 03/12/2002 2:26:36 PM PST by RANGERAIRBORNE
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To: RANGERAIRBORNE
Did you see the scratches on westerfields arms? See this thread...they look like miniature fingernail marks..(ps, don't interpret this as a flame though!)
6 posted on 03/12/2002 2:30:04 PM PST by Freedom2specul8
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To: RANGERAIRBORNE
I'm willing to bet on this.

I think that's a safe bet, Mr.RA.
Freegards Y'all, WhirlwindAttack out.

7 posted on 03/12/2002 2:36:01 PM PST by WhirlwindAttack
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To: RANGERAIRBORNE
No flames here, you're right!
8 posted on 03/12/2002 2:38:43 PM PST by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: RANGERAIRBORNE
No flames here. Quite the contrary. I've been suspicious of the parents since the get-go.
The mom changed her story two or three times, and the dad was a little vague as well.
I hate to even imagine how they may have been involved. I predict it's going to get very nasty.
10 posted on 03/12/2002 2:47:26 PM PST by EggsAckley
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To: RANGERAIRBORNE
Well you may well be right; because something was terribly wrong here. But, could be their dog was not a 'barker'; or the dog knew the neighbor. . .and perhaps, the Father was just 'occupado' so to speak.

Also possible that Danielle may have been rendered incapable of resisting. . .

That said, am tired of hearing, they may never know how she died. . .think they could find a way, perhaps some tortuous suggestions from Westerfield's porno tapes. . .to elicit a response from this disgusting excuse of a man.

Oh, sorry, folks. . .he is not disgusting; what am I thinking, he is just suffering from a 'pornography addiction'. . .and the 'devil made him do it'.

17 posted on 03/12/2002 3:31:28 PM PST by cricket
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To: RANGERAIRBORNE
"The Van Dam's are going to be implicated in this kidnapping in some way- perhaps only because they had Westerfield in their house for one of their little drug and sex parties. Or perhaps for a lot more."

Sadly, I think that you're right.

30 posted on 03/12/2002 7:27:08 PM PST by editor-surveyor
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To: RANGERAIRBORNE
Add me to the growing list of anti-flamers on this one. I suspect you are correct in your assumptions.
36 posted on 03/13/2002 6:15:38 AM PST by LoneGOPinCT
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To: RANGERAIRBORNE
However, I doubt that I could go into an occupied house (with a dog), go upstairs, kidnap a child (who is old enough to fight back AND make a lot of noise), then retrace my steps and get out of the house and yard with a fair certainty of not being seen by SOMEONE!!!

Maybe space aliens did it.

40 posted on 03/13/2002 7:15:17 AM PST by AppyPappy
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To: RANGERAIRBORNE
However, I doubt that I could go into an occupied house (with a dog), go upstairs, kidnap a child (who is old enough to fight back AND make a lot of noise), then retrace my steps and get out of the house and yard with a fair certainty of not being seen by SOMEONE!!!

Good point. Something that strikes me as odd: If he somehow was able to accomplish this, though careful planning and good luck, his careful planning didn't seem to extend to AFTER the deed was done. A careful, methodical, well-planned snatch, then panic and very sloppy cover-up. Something strange. Or maybe not. People can be very strange.

As I said before, I don't closely follow this case. I come to FR for foreign affairs, politics, breaking news, not for crime stories. Just check in on this case from time to time because of my friend in So. Cal. worried about her own daughter. Thought I'd check out what has her so worried. Seems all sorts of wild rumours circulating in So. Cal.

42 posted on 03/13/2002 7:38:02 AM PST by wonders
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