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62 mpg at cruise. Ultra Low Emmisions version in test; uses uretha injection.

Can't buy it in US, gas is too cheap here!

1 posted on 03/10/2002 10:34:40 AM PST by John Jamieson
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62 mpg at cruise. Ultra Low Emmisions version in test; uses uretha injection.

Waaaaay too painful for this dude!

2 posted on 03/10/2002 10:59:02 AM PST by Erasmus
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This is in fact a serious issue. The Ford Focus is not the only example. My business associates who travel in Europe a great deal tell me that there are a number of international manufacture cars that get upwards of fifty (in some cases sixty or seventy) MPG on the road in Europe that cannot be purchased in the US at all.

With all due respect to John, not because the oil companies are making gasoline they want to sell at exhorbitent prices but because the fuzzys who make the rules at EPA don't like the smell of diesel fuel; think that diesels are noisy and do not like to hear them; and who observe old technology diesels and see the emmission as an undiserable side consequence. These fuzzys make the rules for all of us who would prefer to use diesel.

3 posted on 03/10/2002 11:01:14 AM PST by David
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Ultra Low Emmisions version in test; uses uretha injection.

Sounds like a pisser of an injection!

6 posted on 03/10/2002 11:14:25 AM PST by marvlus
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I'll give you the reason why you can't really buy diesel cars here in the USA--too much sulfur compounds in the fuel.

The problem is that sulfur compounds (which can be as high as 2,000 parts per million on some refined Diesel #2 fuel sold in the USA) can chemically act like sulfuric acid (one of the strongest industrial acids out there) and quickly corrode the fuel-delivery system and exhaust system of the diesel cars sold in Europe. Fortunately, that issue will change within the next 18 months. By then, the EPA will mandate that the sulfur content of diesel fuel must not exceed 80 parts per million, identical to the standard in California now for motor fuels.

With the sulfur impurity issue resolved, we can now get diesel engines with direct combustion chamber fuel injection, common-rail high-pressure delivery systems, relatively simple catalytic converters and particulate traps. This will allow diesel cars to even meet the very strict ULEV standard for exhaust emissions.

Besides the obvious benefit of 30-35% lower fuel consumption, the other advantage of diesel engines is that they can also run with only minor modifications motor fuels that are derived from any high carbohydate plant source (most common grains, soybean, sugar beet, sugar cane and the jojoba bean as examples). This plant-based fuel--called biodiesel--is actually even more beneficial to the environment since this fuel has no issues with sulfur impurities and also the exhaust byproduct from the fuel does not have particulates, either. That's why biodiesel is of such interest to a number of large transit agencies that operate a large number of diesel-powered buses.

11 posted on 03/10/2002 11:29:07 AM PST by RayChuang88
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Yeah that's a jewel!. I wonder if I can pull my travel trailer with it?
15 posted on 03/10/2002 11:58:25 AM PST by arly
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"The hatchback gets to 62mph in 10.8 seconds"

What a slug, I wouldn't even consider it!

That's almost as bad as riding a bicycle.

16 posted on 03/10/2002 12:02:31 PM PST by dalereed
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As far as used vehicles go, I hear good things about the 1974 Dodge Monaco with the "Police Package":

"It's got a cop motor: a 440 cubic inch plant. It's got cop tires, cop suspensions, cop shocks. It's a model made before catalytic converters so it'll run good on regular gas."

21 posted on 03/10/2002 3:02:30 PM PST by GreenHornet
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