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Neat car you can't buy here yet
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Posted on 03/10/2002 10:34:40 AM PST by John Jamieson

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62 mpg at cruise. Ultra Low Emmisions version in test; uses uretha injection.

Can't buy it in US, gas is too cheap here!

1 posted on 03/10/2002 10:34:40 AM PST by John Jamieson
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62 mpg at cruise. Ultra Low Emmisions version in test; uses uretha injection.

Waaaaay too painful for this dude!

2 posted on 03/10/2002 10:59:02 AM PST by Erasmus
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This is in fact a serious issue. The Ford Focus is not the only example. My business associates who travel in Europe a great deal tell me that there are a number of international manufacture cars that get upwards of fifty (in some cases sixty or seventy) MPG on the road in Europe that cannot be purchased in the US at all.

With all due respect to John, not because the oil companies are making gasoline they want to sell at exhorbitent prices but because the fuzzys who make the rules at EPA don't like the smell of diesel fuel; think that diesels are noisy and do not like to hear them; and who observe old technology diesels and see the emmission as an undiserable side consequence. These fuzzys make the rules for all of us who would prefer to use diesel.

3 posted on 03/10/2002 11:01:14 AM PST by David
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EPA: Bingo! Think particulates.
4 posted on 03/10/2002 11:04:02 AM PST by snopercod
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To: Erasmus
But I get extra french fries when I pull up at McDonalds

'72 Maserati Gibili Spyder
BUMP



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5 posted on 03/10/2002 11:05:22 AM PST by Elle Bee
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Ultra Low Emmisions version in test; uses uretha injection.

Sounds like a pisser of an injection!

6 posted on 03/10/2002 11:14:25 AM PST by marvlus
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Got bit bad on one of two GM diesels in the early 80's, but I'd try it again, especially on truck or SUV or large car. Fuel economy makes a much larger diff there.

I thought people were starting to like the rattle of the big diesel pickups.

8 posted on 03/10/2002 11:23:49 AM PST by John Jamieson
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Didn't know they made a diesel? Cute car!
9 posted on 03/10/2002 11:24:42 AM PST by John Jamieson
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To: Elle Bee
WOW...LOVE,LOVE,LOVE that car!!!
10 posted on 03/10/2002 11:27:40 AM PST by Hildy
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I'll give you the reason why you can't really buy diesel cars here in the USA--too much sulfur compounds in the fuel.

The problem is that sulfur compounds (which can be as high as 2,000 parts per million on some refined Diesel #2 fuel sold in the USA) can chemically act like sulfuric acid (one of the strongest industrial acids out there) and quickly corrode the fuel-delivery system and exhaust system of the diesel cars sold in Europe. Fortunately, that issue will change within the next 18 months. By then, the EPA will mandate that the sulfur content of diesel fuel must not exceed 80 parts per million, identical to the standard in California now for motor fuels.

With the sulfur impurity issue resolved, we can now get diesel engines with direct combustion chamber fuel injection, common-rail high-pressure delivery systems, relatively simple catalytic converters and particulate traps. This will allow diesel cars to even meet the very strict ULEV standard for exhaust emissions.

Besides the obvious benefit of 30-35% lower fuel consumption, the other advantage of diesel engines is that they can also run with only minor modifications motor fuels that are derived from any high carbohydate plant source (most common grains, soybean, sugar beet, sugar cane and the jojoba bean as examples). This plant-based fuel--called biodiesel--is actually even more beneficial to the environment since this fuel has no issues with sulfur impurities and also the exhaust byproduct from the fuel does not have particulates, either. That's why biodiesel is of such interest to a number of large transit agencies that operate a large number of diesel-powered buses.

11 posted on 03/10/2002 11:29:07 AM PST by RayChuang88
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Mahvelous. You must give me a ride in it sometime. Better yet, I'll drive.

Ohhh, but only as long as I can leave the uretha injection turned off.

ps. I presume that if one reads both front and rear plates, it becomes the theme from Dragnet.

13 posted on 03/10/2002 11:43:50 AM PST by Erasmus
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motor fuels that are derived from any high carbohydate plant source (most common grains, soybean, sugar beet, sugar cane and the jojoba bean as examples).

So if some punk puts sugar in the gas tank of this baby, you just say 'thank you whoever you are'!

14 posted on 03/10/2002 11:45:09 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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Yeah that's a jewel!. I wonder if I can pull my travel trailer with it?
15 posted on 03/10/2002 11:58:25 AM PST by arly
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"The hatchback gets to 62mph in 10.8 seconds"

What a slug, I wouldn't even consider it!

That's almost as bad as riding a bicycle.

16 posted on 03/10/2002 12:02:31 PM PST by dalereed
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Same technology V8 diesel SUV. You might get only 20 or so pulling a trailer.
17 posted on 03/10/2002 12:03:47 PM PST by John Jamieson
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All of my recent cars (Deville, Miata, Mustang) would do 0-60 in 8 seconds. Can't remember doing it more than once each.
18 posted on 03/10/2002 12:06:58 PM PST by John Jamieson
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I probaly do it more than once daily in my 5000# 65 Chevrolet pickup.
19 posted on 03/10/2002 12:47:30 PM PST by dalereed
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20 posted on 03/10/2002 2:53:11 PM PST by Libertarianize the GOP
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