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Outlook Express - much problems
March 6, 2002 | zcat

Posted on 03/06/2002 3:54:27 PM PST by Hot Tabasco

My system: Dell Dimension 8100 with windows ME which I have since upgraded to 2000

I cannot utilize Outlook Express. Everything is read-only, if I attempt to forward, reply or even open, I get the following message: msimn.exe has generated errors and will be closed by windows. You will need to restart the programs.

Couple weeks ago had a major break down, lost files, computer wasnt working properly, and while on phone to Dell support, system died. Dell sent me a new mother board which I have since installed.

Downloaded IE 6.0, and have since uninstalled it and loaded 5.5. Still same problem.

Followed instructions at Dell, changed the properties, , ensured that the .DBX files are not read only and still have problemn.

My last plan of action is to now remove everything from my hard drive and reinstall Windows ME. Is this the right thing to do?


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: exploit; lookoutexpress; lowqualitycrap; malware; microsoft; securityflaw; windows
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Any suggestions?
1 posted on 03/06/2002 3:54:27 PM PST by Hot Tabasco
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2 posted on 03/06/2002 3:57:26 PM PST by theophilusscribe
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To: zcat
Re: Any suggestions?

Linux: The ultimate windows service pack.

3 posted on 03/06/2002 3:57:30 PM PST by ChadGore
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To: zcat
DO NOT use Outlook Express. It has more bugs than Bill Clinton's mattress.

I suggest you use Netscape for your browser, and Eudora for your email program.

4 posted on 03/06/2002 4:00:27 PM PST by Palladin
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To: ChadGore
Linux: The ultimate windows service pack.

You're right. Linux should have no problem reading your outlook express files.

5 posted on 03/06/2002 4:03:19 PM PST by TomServo
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To: zcat
"... windows ME which I have since upgraded to 2000"

I would suspect that the problem lies in your upgrade. When installing Win2000, never choose to upgrade an existing Win9x/Me environment -- always choose to do a CLEAN INSTALL.

The blow-up in MSIMN.EXE is commonly reproducible in upgraded systems.

6 posted on 03/06/2002 4:03:52 PM PST by The KG9 Kid
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To: ChadGore
Linux: The ultimate windows service pack.

Correction: You're right. Linux should have no problem reading your the outlook express files.

7 posted on 03/06/2002 4:04:03 PM PST by TomServo
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To: zcat
Eurdora email by Qualcomm
8 posted on 03/06/2002 4:05:14 PM PST by snippy_about_it
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To: zcat
Ditto on not upgrading Me. Reformat the hard drive and reinstall XP with NTFS format.
9 posted on 03/06/2002 4:09:40 PM PST by OK
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Do I just download the eudora and that's it?
10 posted on 03/06/2002 4:09:53 PM PST by Hot Tabasco
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To: zcat
Yes, or if you switch to Netscape, it includes an email client. Very easy to switch from surfing to reading email and back again.
11 posted on 03/06/2002 4:15:14 PM PST by beaubazzoo
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To: zcat
Yep, click on the download and it will explain, with ads (not too offensive)for free, without ads for one time 39 bucks or Eudora lite.

Also here is a question and answer site that covers Outlook Express

12 posted on 03/06/2002 4:18:04 PM PST by snippy_about_it
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To: zcat
I would strongly suggest doing a clean install. I have attempted several upgrades of various kind and have had problems with them.

I use Outlook Express 6.0 and never had any problems with it.

Wipe your disk clean and use new partition and format, then do clean install full version. You won't be sorry!

13 posted on 03/06/2002 4:23:30 PM PST by Sen Jack S. Fogbound
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To: Sen Jack S. Fogbound; zcat
The senator is on the money. Make sure you have all the latest MS upgrades downloaded as well. Then with your server's help desk, make sure all your OE settings are on the money. Sometimes the old program won't "let go" of the ports, or picks up the wrong server name, or a wrong username. (Don't ask me, ask Bill Gates.) Also, disable your virus protection during the install.

Take two iMACs and call in the morning.

14 posted on 03/06/2002 4:32:01 PM PST by Francohio
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To: zcat
Several other posters have already given you some good advise. Don't use Outlook Express. Use Outlook if you have it. Or use some other mail reader. OE does some unplesant things like running scripts in the preview window. (Outlook disables them.) This is a big security flaw.

Win2K is a good operating system, but a clean install is a good idea. ME was a kluge. Simply upgrading will drag any goofy settings you have into Win2K.

15 posted on 03/06/2002 4:33:03 PM PST by Redcloak
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Linux: The ultimate windows service pack. You're right. Linux should have no problem reading your outlook express files.

LOL.

If this person can't get Windows to act right do you really expect them to be able to make the Penguin work?

From experience - agree with post #6 - never upgrade, wipe and install.

LVM

16 posted on 03/06/2002 4:35:36 PM PST by LasVegasMac
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To: zcat
I used Outlook and would never consider using Outlook Express. Like Microsoft Works, it is a cheap imitation of the original (Microsoft Office).
17 posted on 03/06/2002 4:36:11 PM PST by SamAdams76
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To: zcat
Have a Dell 8100,windows me,I.E. 5.5,Outlook Express.

Everything works perfect.

I would go to add remove programs,remove Outlook Express and reload it,but thats just me.

18 posted on 03/06/2002 4:39:28 PM PST by mdittmar
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A clean install should be a last resort. It's a huge job to reinstall everything you need and get it all set up the way you had it. If you just reinstall Outlook Express over the top of the one on there, it will probably fix any files that are corrupted.

If you decide to do a clean install, bump up to XP. I absolutely love it. It is the most stable operating system I have ever used.

Don't listen to all these linux enthusiasts. If linux is so wonderful, why isn't everyone using it? BECAUSE .. it is not user friendly. If you are not a puter geek, I advise you to steer clear of a straight linux system.

I use Outlook Express, and have for 8 years. I run numerous identities on it, utilizing all of it's features to the max .. and it has been stable.

Upgrade to XP if you do a clean install.

19 posted on 03/06/2002 4:40:52 PM PST by CometBaby
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To: zcat
Couple weeks ago had a major break down, lost files, computer wasnt working properly, and while on phone to Dell support, system died. Dell sent me a new mother board which I have since installed.

I wouldn't necessarily blame Outlook Express for your problems - if you lost files, replacing a motherboard is not going to get the lost files back. If you lost a vital Windows file, one that doesn't come with IE, no matter what you install and re-install (besides the OS itself) is going to fix it.

Outlook Express has its issues, but if you have all of the latest updates to it, plus install Norton Anti-Virus with e-mail protection enabled and keep up with virus updates, plus don't open attachments if you don't know exactly what they are, you generally won't get bit. I never have - I get thousands of e-mails every year for my business and I've received viruses (caught by Norton), but using the previously mentioned policies, I have yet to get infected.

I've been using Outlook 2000 for quite a while, and I recently have had need to use a computer that does not have MS Office and I cannot use Outlook Express on it because it is used for another e-mail server. So I've been looking at third pary e-mail clients.

When you actually look at other e-mail clients, Outlook Express and Outlook don't look so bad.

I've tried Eudora - works OK, but chokes trying to import my Outlook 2000 mail archives (consisting of several thousand messages). It also occupies over 24MB of RAM - why so bloated? Outlook 2000, which as many or more features than Eudora only occupies a little over 8MB of my RAM. The system I need to use this on has a relatively limited amount of RAM.

I tried Allegro Mail, which looked OK, but had the same bloat - sucks up 24MB of RAM.

I tried Netscape 6.2 Mail, which blew up importing my Outlook mail until I split it up into smaller archives. It works for a while, but has some bugs in it. If I am connected to a LAN, then dial into another LAN with dial-up networking, when Netscape Mail can't connect to the mail server, it starts gobbling up all available RAM (I can watch it do it in Task Manager) until you kill the process. It also doesn't visually notify you that you have new mail - if you are not around to hear the sound it makes when new mail arrives, you have to keep opening the window to see if there is any mail.

Pegasus can't import Outlook mail - I need my mail history.

PocoMail looks nice - I haven't tried it yet, but it can't import Outlook mail either.

So people can complain about Outlook Express and Outlook, but IMHO, when you actually try to use the alternatives, Outlook ain't so bad.

20 posted on 03/06/2002 4:42:56 PM PST by Mannaggia l'America
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