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Killing for God: Hal Lindsey highlights prophecies about current events
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Wednesday, March 6, 2002 | Hal Lindsey

Posted on 03/05/2002 11:32:49 PM PST by JohnHuang2

"… But an hour is coming for everyone who kills you to think that he is offering service to God."
– Jesus Christ AD33 (John 16:2)

Jesus Christ predicted that in the last days leading to his return, there would be a great wave of persecution against Christians. The unique thing about this particular prediction is that those who murder Christians will believe they are following God's word and performing a religious duty for Him. This can apply to various religions, but none more than the Muslim religion.

Under the Islamic doctrine of Jihad, Muslims have begun a concerted slaughter of Christians in many parts of the world. The most vicious treatment is reserved for Muslims who convert to Christianity. In many cases, converts are killed by their own family. Many Muslim nations have laws that require the death penalty for converts.

Again, Jesus predicted about those days, "And at that time many will fall away and will deliver up one another and hate one another." (Matt. 24:11)

The Muslim religion is the most intolerant of any major religion in the world. Intolerance of other religions is a central part of their doctrine. It is particularly intolerant of Christians.

Muslim persecution of Christians is often not the kind of "persecution" one thinks of in the 21st century. We're not talking about denying Christians permission to vote, or harassing their churches, or denying them social equality – although all three, of course, apply.

Rather, we are talking about the kind of persecution in which a Christian is given a choice between renouncing Jesus Christ and seeing themselves or their loved ones mutilated and/or murdered.

In an open letter published the other day on WorldNet Daily, the head of Servant's Purse recounted a story in which Sudanese Christians who refused to renounce Christ had a three-inch nail driven into their skulls.

"Persecution" – in terms of what it means in the Sudan – is too horrible to put into words. In the Sudan, forced conversion to Islam is a matter of official state policy.

In Nigeria, wearing of turbans and veils by male and female students in post-primary institutions is mandatory – there are no exceptions. Fourteen church buildings have been slated for demolition by the state government. One third of the Nigeria's internal states have imposed Sharia law. In one state, Kaduna, more than 2,000 people were killed in Christian-Muslim riots linked to plans to introduce Islamic law there.

The U.N. Universal Declaration of Human Rights says:

Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance.

Muslims not only violate these human rights, their religion teaches that they should do so. A Christian is not supposed to even be allowed on the Arabian Peninsula. Non-Muslims are not allowed at all in Mecca.

In Saudi Arabia, all citizens must be Muslims. Wearing of Christian symbols, distribution, or even possession of Christian literature is a crime for which non-Muslims can be arrested, imprisoned, lashed and deported.

There are three Ethiopian Christians currently being held and reportedly tortured in the Saudi Breman Deportation Center. They were reportedly flogged 80 times with a metal cable while they were suspended in the air. They are charged with worshipping Christ in a private home.

An American missionary couple held hostage in the southern Philippines for eight months by the Muslim rebel group Abu Sayyaf live moment to moment under the constant threat of execution by decapitation.

The Koran commands, "Certainly you will find the most violent of people in enmity against those who believe to be the Jews and those who are polytheists." (Surah 5.82) Christians are called "polytheists" because of our faith in Jesus as God. This sets up Christians for persecution.

"So when you meet in battle those who disbelieve, then smite the necks until when you have overcome them, then make [them] prisoners, and afterwards either set them free as a favor or let them ransom [themselves] until the war terminates." (Surah 47.4)

"So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful." (Surah 9.5)

"O Prophet! Strive [Fight] hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is the destination." (Surah 9.73)

It is fascinating to read of U.S. efforts to accommodate the religious sensibilities of the detainees at Guantanamo Bay, and of the human rights groups complaining Washington isn't doing enough. It would seem to me their services are more urgently required elsewhere.



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To: P-Marlowe
Well, he says Phillip BEGAN with the scripture of prophecy in Isaiah about sacrifice of Jesus (vs 32) but I'm sure he went on to explain the prophecy was about Jesus the Messiah and that He recently in Jerusalem fulfilled the prophets by His death, burial, resurrection and ascension to heaven.
101 posted on 03/06/2002 9:29:07 PM PST by maranatha
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To: P-Marlowe
But WHY did jesus have to die, mommy? :-)

First of all, he doesn't ask that question probably because he knows Jesus is alive. But if he did, I'd answer that Jesus willingly died to pay the penalty of sin for us and give us eternal life forever with Him.

Now if you want to know Him, spend time with Him, read His word for yourself, obey Him, follow Him, find out what He said about salvation for yourself. Read the Bible in its entirety. Find out what He has to say about everything. For one thing, he said he hates the doctrine of the Nicolatians. Nicolatians from two Greek words: Nikos = conquer and laos = people. There's a clue about following Him for ourselves instead of following another's religious interpretation. Many more clues to be found in the Word. Another clue is the Bereans who searched the scripture daily to see "whether those things were so. The Scripture will tell you what the Scripture is for. Just read with an open heart, like 2sheep said.

102 posted on 03/06/2002 9:48:16 PM PST by Prodigal Daughter
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To: Prodigal Daughter
Just read with an open heart, like 2sheep said.

It might not hurt to engage your brain as well. There are certain sects which have other books beside the bible that ask you to read them with an open heart too. Sometimes you can open your heart to mischief. Search the scriptures, but test the spirits.

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Marlowe

103 posted on 03/06/2002 10:03:06 PM PST by P-Marlowe
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To: P-Marlowe
"Test the spirits" there's a Biblical command. Guess you know more than you were alluding to.

There are certain sects which have other books beside the bible that ask you to read them with an open heart too. Could you be more straightforward so I can know what books you're referring to? I used to be a voracious reader and book collector. Now I read the Bible, sometimes refer to the concordance, and maybe read 5-10 Christian testimonies a year, so I'm way out of the loop.

104 posted on 03/06/2002 10:10:07 PM PST by Prodigal Daughter
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To: P-Marlowe
Plus I read quite a few history books per year, I forgot about that.
105 posted on 03/06/2002 10:13:51 PM PST by Prodigal Daughter
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To: Prodigal Daughter
Could you be more straightforward so I can know what books you're referring to?

Not without running the risk of having my posts pulled. You can figure it out. They offer a free copy of their book on television once in a while. They ask that you consider it as "another testament" to Jesus. They ask that you take it and "sincerely" ask God to reveal to you whether or not its "true."

Just remember that if you WANT to believe a lie, then God will reinforce your belief in the lie.

2 Thess 2:11

I would also caution anyone considering their offer to read Galatians 1:6-9

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106 posted on 03/06/2002 10:25:55 PM PST by P-Marlowe
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To: P-Marlowe
Having your "posts pulled" shouldn't stop you from telling the truth.
107 posted on 03/06/2002 10:28:31 PM PST by lockeliberty
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To: P-Marlowe
It might not hurt to engage your brain as well.

Come now, its more fun to jump up and down and scream "chicken little".

108 posted on 03/06/2002 10:33:07 PM PST by lockeliberty
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To: LS;P-Marlowe
I've known Hal for many years and I know that he has never claimed to be a prophet. In fact he speaks about false prophets and makes a very careful distinction between interpreting the word of God and being a prophet.

I know for a fact that he loves the Lord with all his heart and also know for a fact that even he knows that he is not a perfect human being. He admits to making mistakes in his past and owns up to them.

I know for a fact that if you followed Hal's teaching in any way, you would know that he teaches much, much more than prophesy and many have come to know Christ through his teaching, including myself and most of my family.

In the Late Great Planet Earth there is a sentence in there where Hal uses the phrase "I predict" but in the same paragraph he also states that he isn't a prophet and it is just his interpretation.
Many (not all)Hal bashers refer to that one phrase to condemn him on everything that comes out of his mouth.

I would really appreciate you coming up with some sort of proof that Hal has ever called himself a prophet.

109 posted on 03/06/2002 10:34:15 PM PST by StayoutdaBushesWay
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To: lockeliberty
What is your problem?
110 posted on 03/06/2002 10:41:21 PM PST by P-Marlowe
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To: StayoutdaBushesWay
Thanks for the post. It seems that some "Christians" like to go around bashing high profile Christians as sport. Hal is always a good target. These people make statements about Hal, like he "claims to be a prophet" and then show how he was wrong to "prove" that he was a false prophet. That makes them feel good about themselvs. Well they shouldn't feel good about spreading false information about anyone, especially a Christian brother (although these "Christians" would never admit that someone like Hal Lindsey could possibly be a "Christian).

Jesus said that you would know the Christians because they have love one for another. Using Jesus' standard I don't think I know a lot of Christians.

111 posted on 03/06/2002 10:47:57 PM PST by P-Marlowe
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To: Campion
I believe God gives us signs so we can know what's happening or going to happen. He also speaks through his prophets and intercessors such as those found on the Elijah List. It's encouraging to see what God is doing. We won't know what he's doing now unless he gives us signs.
112 posted on 03/07/2002 10:31:42 AM PST by Marysecretary
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To: apocalypticchicken
No lie?

You might consider a reading comprehension course for her.

Dan

114 posted on 03/08/2002 5:43:27 AM PST by BibChr
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To: StayoutdaBushesWay
I didn't say Lindsey didn't "love the Lord."

Anyone who doesn't want to be viewed as a prophet of God has an easy chore: don't issue "predictions" about the future involving the end of the world and the Son of God.

I have seen him on TV MANY TIMES and he ALWAYS gives the impression---and does not disabuse anyone---that he is operation as some sort of prophetic dispensation. Maybe, if you know him, you should urge him to do more disclaimers.

115 posted on 03/08/2002 8:54:02 AM PST by LS
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To: LS
"It is also worth pointing out than in several places a PRECONDITION to the return of Jesus is that we "should all come into the unity of the faith" and I don't see much unity out there. Indeed, every time anyone MOVES toward unity, the CFR/New World Order people rise up."

Perhaps the precondition will be met immediatly after the tribulation when the Lord Jesus Christ will set up His 1000 year kingdom rule on the earth. I believe that he will seperate the survivors of the tribulation at that time and only the believers will enter the Kingdom; they will have children who must make a choice and that will necessitate the sacrificial system being reinstated so that "kingdom kids" will see that the cost of sin is death in an otherwise perfect world ruled by our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ with his raptured saints in ministry to the flesh and blood children of Adam. This 1000 year rule will end and Lord Jesus will deliver the Kingdom age believers up to the Father. God;after the white throne judgement of the unsaved; will then destroy this fallen world by fire and create the new heavens and new earth and new Jerusalem, this will be the new beginnings of mankind saved by grace through faith in the finished work of only Jesus Christ on the cross some 2000 years ago.
116 posted on 01/25/2003 7:02:50 AM PST by wgeorge2001
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To: Alas
Hal also seems to over look Christ saying that the first sign of the end would be "Take heed lest any man deceive you: For many shall come in My name, saying, I am Christ; (Christian) and shall deceive many. And when ye shall hear of wars and rumors of wars, be ye not troubled: for such things must needs be; but the end shall not be yet.

So if Christ tells us not to be troubled over war then "peace" "peace" "peace" seems to be the thing we should be troubled about.
117 posted on 01/25/2003 7:11:24 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: JohnHuang2
Jesus Christ predicted that in the last days leading to his return, there would be a great wave of persecution against Christians.

You forgot to add the obligatory BARF alert. These fortune tellers, like the thrice-married Hal, once paened the certain victory of global communism. God takes down marx, and these @$$holes immediately look for another villain to cringe before.

118 posted on 01/25/2003 7:20:21 AM PST by TomSmedley
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To: LS
, and there are too many defeated, un-victorious, whining Christians still here, including many on this board who WANT to be whipped, defeated, and poor. So I believe we have a long way to go yet, although there is no doubt that JESUS IS COMING.

A million thanks for your words of Biblical sanity.

119 posted on 01/25/2003 7:22:08 AM PST by TomSmedley
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To: Alas
Ah, but are you that sure that it is not?

Yes. Jesus is ruling now, will rule until all his enemies are dubdued, and I see too many butts out there that still need to be kicked.

Does not the Lord say that no man, incuding you, me and Hal, knows the hour and day, but, that we should be able to tell about when by the signs.

He was speaking of the Great Tribulation, AKA the Jewish war, 63-70 AD.

And does He not then go on and give us an idea of what the times will be like just before his return?

No.

And do not those signs tend to point to what we are seing and hearing on the news this very time?

No.

120 posted on 01/25/2003 7:27:38 AM PST by TomSmedley
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