Posted on 03/05/2002 2:27:35 PM PST by jmp702
U.S. Deports Israelis Amid Warnings of Espionage Activities
By Ted Bridis Associated Press Writer
Published: Mar 5, 2002
WASHINGTON (AP) - Authorities have arrested and deported dozens of young Israelis since early last year who represented themselves as art students in efforts to gain access to sensitive federal office buildings and the homes of government employees, U.S. officials said.
A draft report from the Drug Enforcement Administration - which first characterized the activities as suspicious - said the youths' actions "may well be an organized intelligence-gathering activity."
Immigration officials deported them for visa violations; no criminal espionage charges were filed.
The arrests, made in an unspecified number of major U.S. cities from California to Florida, came amid public warnings from U.S. intelligence agencies about suspicious behavior by people posing as Israeli art students and "attempting to bypass facility security and enter federal buildings."
The Israelis were arrested and deported on charges of working in the United States without authorization or overstaying visits on tourist visas, said Russ Bergeron, a spokesman for the Immigration and Naturalization Service in Washington. He described dozens of arrests since early 2001 but gave no exact figures.
The DEA report said a majority of the students questioned by U.S. investigators acknowledged having served in military intelligence, electronic signals interception or explosive ordnance units in the Israeli military. The DEA said one person questioned was the son of a two-star Israeli general, one had served as the bodyguard to the head of the Israeli Army and another served in a Patriot missile unit.
Israeli Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Yaffa Ben-Ari said it was "nonsense" that the students were spying on the United States.
Another Foreign Ministry spokeswoman, Irit Stopper, confirmed that a few Israelis posing as art students were expelled from the United States for working without permits. However they were not accused of espionage, she said. She did not say how many Israelis were expelled and did not give any additional details.
The DEA report was first obtained by a French Web site that specializes in intelligence news, Intelligenceonline.com, and confirmed Tuesday as authentic by DEA spokeswoman Rogene Waite in Washington. The Web site said 120 Israelis had been arrested.
"That these people are now traveling in the U.S. selling art seems not to fit their background," the report said.
An FBI official, speaking on condition of anonymity, noted there were no espionage charges filed against any of the individuals and that they had been deported. Asked whether any spying activity occurred, the official repeated that no charges had been filed.
A Justice Department official, also asking not to be publicly identified, said investigators have been aware of some "alleged linkage" between the students and alleged espionage activities in the United States since early 2001, and said authorities have made arrests in Dallas, Chicago, San Diego and in south Florida. INS spokesman Rodney Germain in Miami said five or six people were arrested in that area at least six months ago on immigration counts.
Although security experts at the DEA first characterized the youths' behavior as suspicious, and INS authorities later arrested them, the FBI typically investigates espionage cases in the United States.
The DEA report said that among U.S. sites apparently targeted was Tinker Air Force Base in Oklahoma City, home to the military's AWACS surveillance planes and the place where many of the nation's B-1 bombers are repaired. Investigators also said that one female art student went to the home of a worker for the Environmental Protection Agency in Denver to sell paintings and returned later to photograph the house, according to the report.
No one within the Justice Department has expressed concerns about the Israeli students possibly committing espionage, Justice spokesman Bryan Sierra said. The deputy U.S. attorney general, Larry Thompson, declined to discuss the arrests when asked about them during a news conference Tuesday.
The U.S. Office of the National Counterintelligence Executive, a federal agency, circulated a public warning in March 2001 urging employees to report contact with people describing themselves as Israeli art students.
"These individuals have been described as aggressive," the warning said. "They attempt to engage employees in conversation rather than giving a sales pitch."
Cooperation with Israel, a longtime key ally, is increasingly important in the U.S. war on terrorism.
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But we don't know what they were doing, and what they know. The French report alleges that they were shadowing Atta. Maybe, maybe not. And if they did, well, good--at least someone was! Did they know the general plan? We don't know. Did they know the specifics? We don't know. To go from 'we don't know' to 'the Israelis definitely did know and wanted Americans to die' is blood libel, no doubt about it.
The "car" with Israelis was widely reported. Some even suggested these were Arabs with forged passports (I have not heard this confirmed either). Your own article says that it is not clear whether the car is related to the moving business.
Finally, your FBI report is a regular leads foollow up: they looked through video tapes, and follow up on everyone seen in the vicinity. The truck was spotted in Downtown at the time of the attack, they follow up ---- a completely correct procedure.
These articles, in essense, are about questions that were correctly posed. Why don't your concentrate on the answers. And why is it that you, on your own, do not differentiate between the qestionsa and facts?
Unless, of course, the starting point is that of the Arab world --- "the Mosad did it.
I wrote:
Only incompetents or HateIsraelFirst evil ones would fail to recognize the threat of Islamic terrorists and their supporters to murder millions of our citizens and those of our allies.
OTOH, you write things like:
We recently learned that the Jewish reporter Daniel Pearl who was murdered in Pakistan was an citizen of Israel. I wonder how many other writers, editors, and producers are Israeli citizens? Hmmm....
267 posted on 3/2/02 8:52 AM Pacific by Blade
You hate Israel first. It is the core of your spiritual world. You are possessed by that hatred and, as with Pharaoh, you have hardened your heart without remedy.
I don't think that is clear at all. What is clear is that when one lie about these art students does not stick, the usual suspects try another. The spaghetti strategy. Throw it around see what sticks.
How does this explain that? What was the official outcome of that celebratorion story? Can you provide a link?
If your numbers are correct it's no wonder the government is losing money. Are you saying that DEA is part of all criminal cases that have nothing to do with drugs?
Is it your contention that JimRob is a pawn of the Jews, Israel, or both?
Actually she should stop reading the prescriptions and switch to ingesting the contents.
It fit in quite well with the other 20 articles you have posted that are clearly stated as anti-Israel which raises some interesting questions:
Why do you call yourself anti-war instead of anti-Israel?
Why don't you seem bothered by the fact that almost all of the people who hijacked those planes were Saudis?
Why do you seem to bear no ill will towards Bin Laden who has admitted blowing up the WTC and being happy about it?
The good news here is that, if my surmise is accurate, the DEA ran across non-DEA related info and passed it to the appropriate agencies. This might not have happened pre-9.11.
The major questions in my mind are a) why did the CIA and FBI not question people known to be connected with Al Qaida in an attempt to forestall the attack, and b) who ordered our Air Defense Command to stand down during the attack?
Based on the above, I'm very suspicious that the attack was allowed to proceed so that it would galvanize American public opinion enough to justify sending American troops into Afghanistan, for three purposes:
1. Clean out Al Qaida and capture bin Laden.
2. Secure the pipeline route through Afganistan for Unocal.
3. Secure control of the drug traffic originating in Afghanistan.
There is a lot behind the operation in Afghanistan that needs further investigation and publication. You're a bright guy in a fine position to help clarify the situation. But no one will pay serious attention to you as long as your major theme is that Israel is to blame for everything in the Middle East.
Perhaps it was DIA and someone reported it wrong. Defense Intelligence Agency is responsible for communications intercepts. Just a thought. But DEA agents are supposedly serving with the FBI and others now due to heavy terrorist workload.
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