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Yates lived by rigid schedule, according to husband
The Dallas Morning News ^ | March 1, 2002 (The Ides of March are upon us!) | By TERRI LANGFORD / The Dallas Morning News

Posted on 03/01/2002 1:45:51 AM PST by MeekOneGOP


Yates lived by rigid schedule, according to husband

Husband also testifies she was allowed 3 hours a week without her kids

03/01/2002

By TERRI LANGFORD / The Dallas Morning News

HOUSTON - Russell "Rusty" Yates told jurors Thursday about how his wife, Andrea, lived by a rigid schedule as housekeeper and teacher and was allowed three hours each week to do whatever she wanted, alone, without her children.

"Man's the breadwinner and the woman's the homemaker," Mr. Yates said Thursday during Mrs. Yates' capital murder trial. Mrs. Yates pleaded insanity after admitting that she drowned her five children in June.

While he talked proudly of the couple's decision to toe a higher ethical line based on biblical teachings and lessons gleaned from a conservative newsletter called "Perilous Times," Mr. Yates coincidentally painted a picture for jurors of a bleak life bereft of any outlet for Mrs. Yates besides her children.

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"A scared animal" is how Debbie Holmes testified that her friend Andrea Yates behaved in the days before she killed her children.

Mr. Yates, 37, told the jury that he and his wife agreed before their wedding in 1993 to a "traditional" marriage in which he would serve as sole breadwinner and she would be homemaker.

The pact included being a stay-at-home mother, primary caregiver and, eventually, home-school teacher. Mr. Yates said that he controlled the cash and that she stuck carefully to an allowance.

Therapist Earline Wilcott, who met with Mrs. Yates after her suicide attempts, testified that her client felt overwhelmed and trapped.

Ms. Wilcott said Mrs. Yates felt criticized for the way she ran the household. Ms. Wilcott said Mrs. Yates told her that her husband bought her a book on how to get organized.

When pressure from raising their children appeared to be getting to Mrs. Yates, she could always look forward to Thursdays. Mr. Yates testified that for three hours once each week from 6 p.m. to 9 p.m. Mrs. Yates could do whatever she wanted, alone, without the children.

The free time was to provide some relief for his wife, Mr. Yates said. "I guess that's what we decided," he said.

Mrs. Yates is a diagnosed schizophrenic predisposed to pitch-black depressions that followed the births of her last two children. Testimony has shown that the 37-year-old registered nurse with perfectionist tendencies and a solid Christian faith went along with the home management plan she and Mr. Yates hammered out before marriage.

During a second day of testimony, this time during questioning by Harris County prosecutor Joe Owmby, Mr. Yates, a NASA engineer, said he and Mrs. Yates agreed before marrying that she would give up her job at M.D. Anderson Cancer Center at Houston.

"We thought it best that Andrea be home," Mr. Yates testified.

Prosecutors say Mrs. Yates was fully aware of what she was doing when she drowned Noah, 7; John, 5; Paul, 3; Luke, 2; and 6-month-old Mary in the family bathtub.

Mrs. Yates' trial, which began Feb. 18, is expected to go through next week. She faces life in prison or lethal injection if convicted.

During questioning, Mr. Yates said his wife was quiet and remarkably modest. After they were married, Mrs. Yates wouldn't undress in front of her husband. "That's a pretty personal question, but generally that's true. She's shy," he testified.

While Mr. Yates found time for interests such as biking to work, joining a gym and working in the garage, Mrs. Yates had the children and home-schooling to keep up with.

Their life also included some unusual experiments and choices.

Almost as soon as their first home was built, they rented it out, trading it for a 38-foot trailer to live a "simpler life."

"I think a lot of it was that Andrea was generally happy in the house, I probably wasn't as happy in the house," he said.

After being married 41/2 years, with three young children and another on the way, they sold the trailer for a $37,000 converted Greyhound bus.

"I didn't view it as a hardship," Mr. Yates said. "We like it better than a house."

After the 1999 birth of their fourth child, Luke, the close quarters appeared to get to her. She summoned her husband home one day. He found her sobbing and shaking in the back of the bus.

The next day, she took an overdose. Less than a month later, she held a knife to her throat.

Mr. Yates told jurors how he faithfully drove his wife to therapy after her two suicide attempts.

He also told jurors that his wife opted for natural childbirth.

Although he conceded that the newsletter he and his wife read advocated natural childbirth for a "humbling experience for a woman," Mr. Yates said it was his wife's idea to go without local anesthetic.

"It was her choice," he said. "Sometimes Andrea liked to take the hard road instead of an easy road."

Despite warnings from at least one psychiatrist who said having more children would bring Mrs. Yates a harsher version of the depression that sent her to try to kill herself, they had a fifth child on Nov. 30, 2000.

They knew that Haldol pulled her out of the depths in 1999, after the birth of Luke. When Mrs. Yates faltered again, particularly after her father died in March 2001, they asked for the drug again.

"I knew she was sick," Mr. Yates said. "She wouldn't have tried to commit suicide if she hadn't been sick."

Four days before she drowned her children, Mrs. Yates awoke screaming that she was trapped. As her husband comforted her, she told him about her nightmare. "Something about in her dream she was trapped in her bed," Mr. Yates said.

"A scared animal" is how Debbie Holmes later testified that Mrs. Yates behaved in the days before she killed her children. The women met about 16 years ago at M.D. Anderson.

Mrs. Holmes said Mrs. Yates spoke only three complete sentences to her in the four months before the children died. Her hair greasy and matted, her body reeking, Mrs. Yates was a walking zombie then, Mrs. Holmes said.

"I was appalled," said Mrs. Holmes. "She looked like a cancer patient." When she heard that the children were drowned, a teary Mrs. Holmes said she collapsed.

"I fell on the floor, and I just cried," Mrs. Holmes said. "I was screaming. It can't be my Andrea."


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To: SunnyUsa
You described her as a "time bomb". If you aren't willing to acknowledge her illness, you must mean she was a "time bomb" in an evil sense. Please correct me if I've misinterpreted you.

The difference between you and me is probably that I have lived in the same house with a mentally ill person; I don't find it at all difficult to believe that she was ill and I don't think that the average person's perception of what a mentally ill individual "would do" is necessarily accurate. They may do evil things, but to completely disregard their illness (and there is no doubt this woman was very, very ill - she tried to kill herself more than once, and she had been on anti-psychotics) is tragically short-sighted, in my opinion.

Perhaps if someone would have taken her illness more seriously before she was left alone with those children that morning, we might not have this to talk about.

381 posted on 03/01/2002 10:59:32 AM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
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To: xsmommy
The mother got custody because she needed the child support to live. No kids, no child support, no income. The judge looked at an employed father, an unemployable, certified mother and gave the kids to the mother. The judge even cited that the mother was understandably "upset" because she had lost a child to leukemia. IOW the judge KNEW she had problems but gave her the kids because she needed the child support. She didn't have a drivers license because she had a bad habit of hit-and-run when she would get upset.

Shoot, I know a local woman who is a prostitute and they won't take her kids. And guess where she got the kids.

382 posted on 03/01/2002 11:07:18 AM PST by AppyPappy
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To: AppyPappy;one_particular_harbour
OPH can probably speak to this, because it is more in line with his type of practice, but i find it appalling.
383 posted on 03/01/2002 11:09:27 AM PST by xsmommy
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To: one_particular_harbour
this had everything to do with a rigid, authoritarian jerk who made sure he ruled the roost. I know his type - and he is poison.

Correct. AND, the defense is carefully laying out the case against him and away from Andrea. This is called "Plan B" on that excellent tv show, "The Practice." Defense attorneys roll out Plan B, cast hints and veiled accusations of blame upon someone other than the defendant, only when their chances of acquittal are almost nil.

Many women have five children and feel overwhelmed. Many women live with creeps like Rusty. Andrea could have run screaming into the swamp and never returned, might have murdered Rusty, might have killed herself....but she chose to kill her beautiful little children in cold blood. I can't excuse her.

384 posted on 03/01/2002 11:13:50 AM PST by PoisedWoman
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
ty
386 posted on 03/01/2002 11:19:42 AM PST by Real Cynic No More
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To: one_particular_harbour
You know what really happened. She had a better lawyer.
388 posted on 03/01/2002 11:21:30 AM PST by AppyPappy
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
timebomb as in evil? ummm no....

time bomb as in a mental case who did the deed, then called the police and husband to clean up. "Perhaps if someone would have taken her illness more seriously before she was left alone with those children that morning, we might not have this to talk about"

I agree with this.

Too bad she didn't kill herself instead of those innocent children.

I don't know why she wants to live now....How can she sit there and listen to the excuses put on by her DEFENSE team?

No matter what, she did killed them with her own hands - I can't think about this (not even knowing them) without getting sick to my stomach.

389 posted on 03/01/2002 11:21:48 AM PST by SunnyUsa
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To: one_particular_harbour
hey i could say a few worse things about that sicko rusty or what ever the creep's name is.
390 posted on 03/01/2002 11:23:06 AM PST by mel
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To: SunnyUsa
"Time bomb as in a mental case..."

So we agree. She was sick.

392 posted on 03/01/2002 11:42:28 AM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
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To: xsmommy
while the bathtub, as an inanimate object, could not absent itself from the house so as not to become an instrumentality, Randy Yates COULD have removed his children from his wife's care and thus, saved their lives.

You tell Him xsfeminazimommy!

393 posted on 03/01/2002 11:44:01 AM PST by hobbes1
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To: xsmommy
this husband is equally responsible for the deaths of his children. those living conditions were untenable and this woman did everything but draw him a map of what she would eventually end up doing. it does not excuse her in the slightest, but he is equally culpable.

I agree with this assessment. I also worry about how the media will use this to bash stay-at-home moms and traditional families however. This is an abberation but the media won't portray it that way.
394 posted on 03/01/2002 11:45:27 AM PST by GussiedUp
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To: hobbes1
I do it all the time. Except that I consider myself sufficiently thoughtful that I can distinguish between prejudice and principle.
395 posted on 03/01/2002 11:52:32 AM PST by Illbay
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To: Illbay
You may not THINK they've gotten to you. You may THINK you're conservative. But you've unconsciously swallowed every stupid truism Eleanor Smeal ever uttered.

since you don't know me in the slightest, i am not the least bit invested in proving my conservative credentials to you. think what you will.

396 posted on 03/01/2002 11:56:02 AM PST by xsmommy
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To: one_particular_harbour; hobbes1
like i don't have enough butt whooping to do, i need to contend with YOU TWO!!!
398 posted on 03/01/2002 11:59:43 AM PST by xsmommy
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To: xsmommy
I think he feels he has to stick by her because if she gets off, somehow in his mind, so does he,. I think he's sticking by her out of some sense of rationalization, and above all - his guilty conscious.

I don't think he has a clue how the media is going to crucify him in order to attempt to make her look less and less culpable. I think she's guilty but he might just get his uppencommance from a media most likely hell-bent on making the man out as the bad guy once again. If the jury takes care of her appropriately then they'll both get what they deserve because I DO think he had a moral responsibilty for the lives of those children and apparently everyone was screaming at him that she was about to go over the edge but he didn't want to listen.
400 posted on 03/01/2002 12:05:55 PM PST by GussiedUp
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